Something is wrong with women who don't want kids

[EyeBRollin]

If a woman is not in a secure relationship when she's 40, she's likely damaged goods. Though the women that are in marriages and not actively on the market aren't usually as happy as they'd like for you to believe.

Not likely- she is 100% broken. She has failed at life if she doesn’t have a man at 40+.

 

[B80]

Not likely- she is 100% broken. She has failed at life if she doesn’t have a man at 40+.

It's a red flag for sure. Assuming not something like a relatively recent widow (and husband didn't under strange circumstances... ).

 

[SW15]

Not likely- she is 100% broken. She has failed at life if she doesn’t have a man at 40+.

Women who don't have men at 40+ usually did have men at some point in their lives. A 40+ woman usually doesn't spend her teens, 20s, and 30s not dating and not having sex. The women in their 40s on the market were often previously married and often are single moms.

It's rarer (but becoming more common as the 1980s born Millennials are turning 40) to find a woman who monkey branched from relational arrangement to relational arrangement without having kids and without marrying.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Yes, don't blame people if they judge me negatively/scummy....

She's broken... I reckon 2-3% of all women are broken. If not you, then she would have picked someone else... I assign blame 30/70.. where you are 30% to blame and she is 70% to blame. 100 years ago in the past, both of you guys would be excommunicated - basically making both of your lives 10x harder and which could lead to death. Currently, in some Muslim countries, you guys would be stoned.

I understand why people do it now in our society. There's really no consequences. It's passively acceptable. IMHO, only broken women do it; guys do it because its sex and guys have a higher sex drive (and like I mention, there are no real consequences).

 

[B80]

She's broken... I reckon 2-3% of all women are broken. If not you, then she would have picked someone else... I assign blame 30/70.. where you are 30% to blame and she is 70% to blame. 100 years ago in the past, both of you guys would be excommunicated - basically making both of your lives 10x harder and which could lead to death. Currently, in some Muslim countries, you guys would be stoned.

I understand why people do it now in our society. There's really no consequences. It's passively acceptable. IMHO, only broken women do it; guys do it because its sex and guys have a higher sex drive (and like I mention, there are no real consequences).

Yeah exactly, no way I'd enter into something like that if there was consequences of that scale. Of course you could say I risk getting stabbed byt the husband, but chances of that happening are tiny, even if he was to somehow find out about me and where I live.

I'm not sure she is broken, from what I know of her. From my experience a fair % of women (and men if they're capable of finding another woman, as most seem to struggle getting 1 to marry and then just stick with them ime) cheat for one reason or another, if something is missing, be that boredom, biology driving them etc.

But yes, eye opener how 'easy' she is making meetups to happen and this is when stone cold sober. She actually said she couldn;t just cheat with a random man she didn;t really know on a night out, of course that could be bullsh1t, but may not be. She made it sound like cheating with someone she had already built up a connection with was somehow better, which in some ways makes sense, but also harsher as she's made a premeditated to decision to do it, rather than when drunk on night out and 'losing control' for a short time. Obviously same goes for me to, as I'm making decision whilst sober...

 

[Smok1nAce]

The fact that women WANT to work 40 hours a week seems absolutely pathological to me. Who would CHOOSE to pursue a “career” if they didn’t HAVE TO. It makes no sense, it reveals something about the confusion with “progressive” views of society.

This Is the problem. Society has been brainwashing people for the last 100 years.

After living my 20's working odd jobs and going to college off and on. At 30 I finally have a 40 hours a week job.

I been working 2 years straight and feel like a complete asss. Your literally trading you life away for what seem like a lot of money, but in reality isn't, cause you only get one life.

I understand why people do it, cause they have to. But some people actually desire to. The worst part is most the people who are doing it are out of shape/unhealthy and in debt. So by the time they do retire they will nothing saved up and will be to unhealthy to do enjoy the life they have left.





Women who say they dont want children arent' saying that with a straight face and smile, it's more or less behind a saddened face of tears and regret. These women are mostly likely stuck in a job they have to work in order to live.

I notice that some of you are always complaining about stuff. Chill out brahs. Throw on some Bob, and feel alllriiiiiiiight.

This is the biggest take away, their is still small majority of people who are not going with the modern propaganda. Best to find those people and avoid the rest.

 

[Black Widow Void]

It’s a bit humorous to see a male poster speaking on behalf of women and their mentality.

I think you guys have it all wrong. The childless women that I’ve dated, are more playful, less intense, and a lot more fun! In fact I have a silly side to me as well and childless women seem to enjoy that side a lot better.

The only exception, would be women that are teachers. In a way, they have sort of ‘adopted’ their students and it sort of sucks the fun out of going out with them.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Kids suck

 

[Epicwinguy]

I would rather be with a woman who didn't want kids because I don't want kids

 

[Black Widow Void]

I’d like to also add something… that my married male friends with children have told me.

Once a woman has children, they seem incapable of dividing their love evenly. Instead, nearly all the focus goes to the children. I think that devoting time to children is great, but dividing your love and doing so evenly would be more ideal. However, biologically speaking, women do not seem capable. And you all want this?

And yet, there’s this consensus on the forum, that women are more mentally balanced once they have children?
I disagree.

Also, let’s talk about male mentality and children. When you have a child, you’re basically serving an 18+ year sentence. Because I don’t need offspring to placate my ego or fill some void, I have no desire to have children. And besides compromising 18 years of your life, does not sound like a whole lot of fun to me.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

She has failed at life if she doesn’t have a man at 40+.

^^^

Ladies like this are likes dudes going their own way.

They'll change their tune in a heartbeat if they had an opportunity.

Old school sour grapes.

 

[Slowhandluke]

^^^

Ladies like this are likes dudes going their own way.

They'll change their tune in a heartbeat if they had an opportunity.

Old school sour grapes.

Do you think most men going their own way will change their tune if a single mother/cat lady/ wants to be in a relationship with them? I don't think so. How about if a younger, but crazy twenty year old? After post nut, clarity, I think most men going their own way would pass (only using her for sex).. Most men who are going their own way have been through divorce; they ain't going through it again unless there's a unicorn; do you think most men believe in unicorns? But for a lot of them, "hope springs eternal".... They will wait it out.

I’d like to also add something… that my married male friends with children have told me.

Once a woman has children, they seem incapable of dividing their love evenly. Instead, nearly all the focus goes to the children. I think that devoting time to children is great, but dividing your love and doing so evenly would be more ideal. However, biologically speaking, women do not seem capable. And you all want this?

And yet, there’s this consensus on the forum, that women are more mentally balanced once they have children?
I disagree.

Also, let’s talk about male mentality and children. When you have a child, you’re basically serving an 18+ year sentence. Because I don’t need offspring to placate my ego or fill some void, I have no desire to have children. And besides compromising 18 years of your life, does not sound like a whole lot of fun to me.

I have a kid. He's awesome. I see parts of me in him. So yeah, I do want to have one more. That's the only reason I care about the whole marriage/dating crud; I'm old so if I can find a "unicorn", cool. If not, so be it.

Yeah, I think women when they have kids are still crazy (if they were crazy initially), but their focus is on the children now. Nothing really changes. Remember single moms produce higher rates of kids who become criminals/lie/behavior issues, etc; how can women be more mentally balanced but yet produce bad kids?

 

[Grounded eagle]

I’d like to also add something… that my married male friends with children have told me.

Once a woman has children, they seem incapable of dividing their love evenly. Instead, nearly all the focus goes to the children. I think that devoting time to children is great, but dividing your love and doing so evenly would be more ideal. However, biologically speaking, women do not seem capable. And you all want this?

And yet, there’s this consensus on the forum, that women are more mentally balanced once they have children?
I disagree.

Also, let’s talk about male mentality and children. When you have a child, you’re basically serving an 18+ year sentence. Because I don’t need offspring to placate my ego or fill some void, I have no desire to have children. And besides compromising 18 years of your life, does not sound like a whole lot of fun to me.

Yes,it has often been spoken about how when children come into the picture,they are placed above the Man by their mother.Heck, she even places them above herself in the hierarchy,pretty much making the man the lowest priority,which is a pretty ****ty deal,and is enough to make one rethink this whole marriage thing.

So if you are not absolutely certain that you’re doing it with the right person,it’s just more prudent to stay alone,because you sure stand to lose a lot if it all falls apart.

 

[Grounded eagle]

^^^

Ladies like this are likes dudes going their own way.

They'll change their tune in a heartbeat if they had an opportunity.

Old school sour grapes.

Lol.Feminists who are reaping the fruits of their folly.And are too proud and undesirable at that point to effect any real change.

 

[Zimbabwe]

This Is the problem. Society has been brainwashing people for the last 100 years.

After living my 20's working odd jobs and going to college off and on. At 30 I finally have a 40 hours a week job.

I been working 2 years straight and feel like a complete asss. Your literally trading you life away for what seem like a lot of money, but in reality isn't, cause you only get one life.

I understand why people do it, cause they have to. But some people actually desire to. The worst part is most the people who are doing it are out of shape/unhealthy and in debt. So by the time they do retire they will nothing saved up and will be to unhealthy to do enjoy the life they have left.





Women who say they dont want children arent' saying that with a straight face and smile, it's more or less behind a saddened face of tears and regret. These women are mostly likely stuck in a job they have to work in order to live.




This is the biggest take away, their is still small majority of people who are not going with the modern propaganda. Best to find those people and avoid the rest.

Exactly, nobody on their deathbed wishes they spent more time in the office.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Do you think most men going their own way will change their tune if a single mother/cat lady/ wants to be in a relationship with them? I don't think so.

I never said anything about single moms, crazy ladies, etc.

Your assuming a meaning I didn't imply to validate your beliefs.

My point again:

If an MGTOW dude met somebody THEY (not you) thought was high quality, they would stop being MGTOWS.

If a childless feminist met a dude THEY (not you) thought was high quality, they'd give up their childless ways.

 

[Von]

Here's my findings for the Thread and OP, since I went from BluePill to RedPill, a guy who didnt want marriage and kids to a MAN who is married with a baby-girl becoming a RedPill Dad. My surrounding is 25 years old to 40 years old single mens and single womens (60%) to the married bluepill and redpill women and men with kids (40%).

Okay, to answer the thread now!
1. Its not because you don't have a kids that women are ''crazies'' ... Alot of the single 40's women i know are pure fun, intelligent etc.. However, they are emotionnally DAMAGED (they maybe had a trauma, a reason not to have a kid or they don't understand why they can't keep a guy... is it due because they all career-women?)
2. Female who don't have kids around 40... are in literal PAIN when they find out someone has a kid, and its worst the younger the ''new parents'' are. Kids are part of the female-biological imperative, an imperative society tries to crush (jealous single female, need to have more workers)

If you pay attention, you notice the pain, and its for BOTH Females : that a voluntarily not having kids and those who want but cant.

The pain is less for those who decided to be no-kids female.

Like anything... it's how they handle the situation that matters and keep them ''sane''

In short again: It's not because female don't have kids they are crazies, its because of a emotional damage that lead to a decision or they are crazies and cant keep a guy. Female are biological geared to having kids, they grew up being TEACH by society (due to a lack of male figure) that Education and Career was BEFORE kids, and than at 35's they can start thinking about kids but thats when their biological clock at ''Crisis mode''

Personnally, i've stopped discussing my kid at tables cause it hurts the people around me who don't have kids (and wished to have one), i only mention i am a happy father, here's my kid pic, than move on

 

[Slowhandluke]

I never said anything about single moms, crazy ladies, etc.

Your assuming a meaning I didn't imply to validate your beliefs.

My point again:

If an MGTOW dude met somebody THEY (not you) thought was high quality, they would stop being MGTOWS.

How many high quality women do you think are out there? How many high quality women do you think MGTOW dudes think there are out there? Not what I think... Not what you think, but the guy that might barely sees his kids because of a divorce.. maybe even has to pay alimony to his ex-wife.. dragged through divorce court by someone he "trusts" and then get eviscerated by court system; have his house taken away.. his savings... etc... etc..

But yeah, your right the average MGTOW guys will just " change their tune in a heartbeat if they had an opportunity. " hahahahahahahahaha

I was divorced and I have been in divorce court. I see the men there and I've talked to them; they tell me there's nothing like being with someone for years and then have her just kick you to the curb because she just can. For that moment and time, she gets all the "cashes and prizes"; all the other people give her sympathies (she the woman so obviously, there's something wrong with the man), etc...

Most MGTOW guys are older and have been married. I agree, if a MGTOW person is young and never been betrayed like that before; it's easier to change his mind. However, as he gets older, the average woman he interacts with will be older and less attractive so the chances of him adhering to the MGTOW philosophy gets higher..

As you can tell, the marriage rate, and the birth rate have dropped considerably. If it was simply about guys changing "their tune in a heartbeat if they had an opportunity" -- this hasn't happen, period.

If a childless feminist met a dude THEY (not you) thought was high quality, they'd give up their childless ways.

Yes, both feminist and MGTOW people are looking for "high quality" people. Most MGTOW have been through the trenches and are very picky; Feminist have been through the **** carousel and are also very picky EVEN though their SMV have gone down drastically. They are alpha widowed. It's all in their mind as to why feminist don't have anyone.

For the average MGTOW person, it's not all "in their mind"; they are rationally being more picky because of past experiences. They know about the marriage laws.. they see how irrational and emotional a woman can be (odds are they have been married).. It' not like MGTOW men were on the ***** carousel and now they think they deserve a smoking hot super model.. Or that MGTOW men expect women to act like how they were in the pass (to worship his ****), etc... Both the average MGTOW man and feminist are more picky but one is based on delusions and other is based on fact and experiences.

 

[MatureDJ]

The fact that women WANT to work 40 hours a week seems absolutely pathological to me. Who would CHOOSE to pursue a “career” if they didn’t HAVE TO. It makes no sense, it reveals something about the confusion with “progressive” views of society.

• The urge to procreate is the basic fundamental need of every organism.
• Women are hard-wired to like kids psychologically (which is why most of them become dog mums as an alternative)
• Women have hormones that signal child-bearing.
• Women have maternal instincts that make them want to care for other humans, big and small.

If a woman does not want kids, she is literally fighting off strong societal, hormonal, and psychological urges that make her want to have children. I would consider this "something wrong." It doesn't make her a monster, it doesn't make her inhuman or less human. Women really like to debate this point and say it's sexist and women aren't "made for making babies" but speaking purely from a objective stance, yes something is not "right". It absolutely points to something being off that a woman can just ignore or override the fundamental signals that have been apparent in human history since the beginning of time.

I think we are living through a genetic bottle era. There were a lot of women in the past who didn't care for sex or kids, but they would have destitute without a husband, so they put up with it; now these womyn can choose not to have kids and still make it. The good thing is that Evolution will be culling these non-maternal instincts out of the population.

 

[IKO69]

After reading the opening post I also think it is somewhat backwards but I wouldn't say it is completely abnormal (def not the norm tho). I've known a few women that actually are VERY into their career (a family friend of mine fits this bill and she is a VERY well educated & accomplished person) and it's genuine. They live for the work they do and are very good at it. Unquestionably most were single for a good part of their adult life and are REALLY difficult to date. If you are looking for an ltr (as I know some guys on here are from what I've read) these aren't really the kind of women you should go after; ladder climbers in general are to be avoided. They will always consider their work more important and then comes issues of incompatibility when it comes to drive, money (if she is more ambitious and makes more than you). They say this doesn't matter but it's b.s.

I think ideally you want to be in the position of displaying "strength" - you want her to look up to you.