Someone explain to me why Incels are so heavily involved in discussions about game/dating/sex.

[Hamurabimbi]

It's not just this, this is basically instilled upon our head from our dads and media that women are sexually innocent and men prey upon them through bad boy manipulation or force.

This.
I grew up with ‘women are innocent Disney princesses.’. Even though I know women are horny sex beasts, I still have a hard time accepting & dealing with that.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

I remember when Eliot Rodger happened and incels were brought to the mainstream. Since then the bluepilled and the MSM fears them and has this idea that they're all a bunch of woman-hating basement dwellers, when in reality most of them probably have autism and lack the necessary social acumen to get the sort of relationships they desire. On top of all that they mostly grew up without positive male role models and were raised in the degenerate society of the present day. The media always talks about incels being a threat or whatever and paints them as potential murderers, and the general attitude that society has toward them is that they need to be kept down and subdued. When discourse about incels looks like this, the incels themselves get convinced that society indeed shuns them and is against them, which makes them more angry and resentful.

Incels are very much a symptom of a diseased society, and nobody offers any legitimate help to them since helping incels get out of their situation actually goes against the interests of those in power. Instead of offereing these individuals legitimate help, society prefers to keep them complacent by plying them up with porno, video games, and onlyfans. The media acknowledges that incels are a widespread problem, but it's as if were not allowed to talk about any legitimate potential solution. The same thing goes for the low testosterone epidemic. Although the media and the medical community talks about the fact that it's going on, nobody actually talks about solving the problem of low testosterone since the powers that be have determined that discussing the potential solutions is a taboo subject. I would even go so far as saying this is society's attitude to increased rates of autism. Doctors always give this cop out about how the rise in autism cases is because they're "better at detecting it" or whatever. But looking at the statistics there's no way that explains all of it and there's something going on behind the scenes that's causing this increase in cases that we're not allowed to talk about. It isn't vaccines, but it's probably something like plastics and other environmental pollution that's causing increased genetic damage that leads to autism becoming more prevalent. Either way discussing a legit solution to all these things goes against the interests of the morons on capitol hill. Even if the media and society point out that these things are going on, a actual solution is never proposed. All of these issues are there by design

 

[eli77]

Bad enviorment.bad parenting.bad grooning habitat who knows.

 

[eli77]

I am not kicking down the incel who is trying to genuinely improve his life, I should have clarified that. I am however kicking down the typical black pilled LMS troll that infests community after community and losers like Wheat Waffles who cause shootings to happen. If you are down and humble about it, I will wish you the best. But most of these incels I speak of are not like that, they are arrogant, entitled, spiteful, hateful, and even attack other people at every turn.

For these men, why can't they just move on from game if they are convinced that it is out of their control?

Name one

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I remember when Eliot Rodger happened and incels were brought to the mainstream. Since then the bluepilled and the MSM fears them and has this idea that they're all a bunch of woman-hating basement dwellers, when in reality most of them probably have autism and lack the necessary social acumen to get the sort of relationships they desire. On top of all that they mostly grew up without positive male role models and were raised in the degenerate society of the present day. The media always talks about incels being a threat or whatever and paints them as potential murderers, and the general attitude that society has toward them is that they need to be kept down and subdued. When discourse about incels looks like this, the incels themselves get convinced that society indeed shuns them and is against them, which makes them more angry and resentful.

Incels are very much a symptom of a diseased society, and nobody offers any legitimate help to them since helping incels get out of their situation actually goes against the interests of those in power. Instead of offereing these individuals legitimate help, society prefers to keep them complacent by plying them up with porno, video games, and onlyfans. The media acknowledges that incels are a widespread problem, but it's as if were not allowed to talk about any legitimate potential solution. The same thing goes for the low testosterone epidemic. Although the media and the medical community talks about the fact that it's going on, nobody actually talks about solving the problem of low testosterone since the powers that be have determined that discussing the potential solutions is a taboo subject. I would even go so far as saying this is society's attitude to increased rates of autism. Doctors always give this cop out about how the rise in autism cases is because they're "better at detecting it" or whatever. But looking at the statistics there's no way that explains all of it and there's something going on behind the scenes that's causing this increase in cases that we're not allowed to talk about. It isn't vaccines, but it's probably something like plastics and other environmental pollution that's causing increased genetic damage that leads to autism becoming more prevalent. Either way discussing a legit solution to all these things goes against the interests of the morons on capitol hill. Even if the media and society point out that these things are going on, a actual solution is never proposed. All of these issues are there by design

My understanding is ER wanted hot blonde sorority girls. Way out of his league. He certainly could have gotten a less attractive girl. So. I don’t think he was a true incel.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Incels are very much a symptom of a diseased society, and nobody offers any legitimate help to them since helping incels get out of their situation actually goes against the interests of those in power.

But they don't want help. The main characteristics of an Incel are arrogance and stubbornness. They literally have a cop out theory for any help you give them.

 

[CornbreadFed]

My understanding is ER wanted hot blonde sorority girls. Way out of his league. He certainly could have gotten a less attractive girl. So. I don’t think he was a true incel.

The ideal recipe for an Angry Elliot Roger Incel is a guy that falls in between a 7- 8 because they aren't good looking enough to naturally pull of women in or above their league, aren't willing to date below their looks, and have a harder time throwing money and resources attract women while uglier men will.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I grew up with ‘women are innocent Disney princesses.’. Even though I know women are horny sex beasts, I still have a hard time accepting & dealing with that.

How do you deal with it now?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

My understanding is ER wanted hot blonde sorority girls. Way out of his league. He certainly could have gotten a less attractive girl. So. I don’t think he was a true incel.

No, he couldn't. Read his 'manifesto'.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Neolithic culture may have kept most men from mating

Y chromosome diversity suggests male reproductive bottleneck 8,000 years ago.

arstechnica.com

This study (and others like it ) suggests inceldom iis more prevalent during times of societal change.

The following passage, from the Old Testament, implies that even back then, in the highly patriarchal times of the kings of Israel, some men did not find wives.

‘He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the LORD.’. Prov 18:22

There may be no true solution to inceldom. Each individual must strive to escape that dreadful prison.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

How do you deal with it now?

poorly.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

poorly.

If you need some help, just ask.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

No idea what sort of discussion is going on in this thread but I have some observations to share:

I've noticed that simps are more likely to use the term incel than anyone. In their world, any man who doesn't espouse blue-pilled ideology is a clown and charlatan. The funny thing is, most simps aren't any more successful with women and dating than incels are, and often they're pvssy whipped to oblivion and refuse to believe that their entire approach to interacting with women is fundamentally wrong.

The term incel has become nothing more than shaming language for wrong-think. It's the same knee-jerk reaction as people calling others "trumpers" or "conspiracy theorists" for opposing the Covid narrative. As soon as someone resorts to insults, just know you've already won the argument.

There may be a lot of incels who are toxic and black-pilled, I don't know because I don't really interact with them. But no one seems to address that about 1/3 of of men go years and years without dates let alone physical contact from a woman. I'd be bitter too. The do seem to have a defeatest mindset, but if you're a 5'4 Indian man with a strong accent, you have every right to be bitter because you have to work significantly harder. People are completely lacking in empathy.

Last point, true incels have always existed and will always exist. They are literally genetic dead ends, universally deemed unfit for procreation. Ridiculing someone for being an incel, especially if they're not toxic etc, is basically psychopathic.

 

[corrector]

I recently was part of a discord of a youtuber who I enjoy
His discord was filled with 70% incels who couldn't fathom that hot women would bang a man for free
The way incels view the world is very limited and sad
They believe that to get a hot woman you either have to be a movie star or pay for sex
They can't fathom that a regular guy can get laid because he meets hot chicks in his social circle
Most incels also don't want to take accountability like the women they complain about
I loath a man who doesn't want to improve his situation if he has the ability too

Actually, some trucels believe that they can't even pay for sex as those type of women would reject them including their money, escortcelling is still a tier up within the incel-continuum. I'm one that can't pay either because of religious reasons (because we are not married, not because of the exchange of money). That means, that 70% aren't truecel enough to not believe that escortcelling a hot girl is not an option!

 

[corrector]

But no one seems to address that about 1/3 of of men go years and years without dates let alone physical contact from a woman. I'd be bitter too. If you're a 5'4 Indian man with a strong accent, you have every right to be bitter because you have to work significantly harder. People are completely lacking in empathy. Ridiculing someone for being an incel, especially if they're not toxic etc, is basically psychopathic.

This.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I think the incels here would benefit from Dr. Glover’s “No More Mr Nice Guy.” The working title for his new book is “Shut Up and Fnck Me!” which might get your interest. If it only helps one guy as a result of this post the time I took to write it, it was worth it.

One of the first books for men I read. It taught me a lot; I don’t agree with all of it, but what I don’t agree with is minuscule. It’s for all men, not just men in relationships.

Take the time to check him out; he’s pretty funny and gets it.

Trigger Warning: IT MAY CHALLENGE YOU INTO SELF-REFLECTION AND ACTION.

 

[corrector]

When discourse about incels looks like this, the incels themselves get convinced that society indeed shuns them and is against them, which makes them more angry and resentful.
but it's as if were not allowed to talk about any legitimate potential solution.

Any legitimate solution would be defying feminism and praising the patriarchy to these dimwits.

 

[SW15]

Instead of offereing these individuals legitimate help, society prefers to keep them complacent by plying them up with porno, video games, and onlyfans

Rollo Tomassi has mentioned this too.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Rollo Tomassi has mentioned this too.

offer them help right now and guage the reaction

 

[Hamurabimbi]

No idea what sort of discussion is going on in this thread but I have some observations to share:

I've noticed that simps are more likely to use the term incel than anyone. In their world, any man who doesn't espouse blue-pilled ideology is a clown and charlatan. The funny thing is, most simps aren't any more successful with women and dating than incels are, and often they're pvssy whipped to oblivion and refuse to believe that their entire approach to interacting with women is fundamentally wrong.

The term incel has become nothing more than shaming language for wrong-think. It's the same knee-jerk reaction as people calling others "trumpers" or "conspiracy theorists" for opposing the Covid narrative. As soon as someone resorts to insults, just know you've already won the argument.

There may be a lot of incels who are toxic and black-pilled, I don't know because I don't really interact with them. But no one seems to address that about 1/3 of of men go years and years without dates let alone physical contact from a woman. I'd be bitter too. The do seem to have a defeatest mindset, but if you're a 5'4 Indian man with a strong accent, you have every right to be bitter because you have to work significantly harder. People are completely lacking in empathy.

1/3 swims catastrophically high. For some reason. Unlike back, say 10-15 years agp. None of my male friends or coworkers talk about sex. Not even innocent stuff like ‘she’s hot’. I still do. But I’m really the odd man out.