Some tips from the female perspective

[Jariel]

lol....what a load of s.hite.

thread starter isnt a woman you can tell, and as for Jariel...what a muppet

Sorry I'm not telling you what you want to hear. Let me guess, you're some lazy dude who wants quick results with minimum effort. Good luck with that!

Ps. A little lesson to help you improve your social skills: if you disagree with someone, state why and express your opinion. It makes you look a lot smarter and socially adept than calling someone a muppet.

 

[Nexxus]

I actually agree with the girl and Jariel here, only becuz i'm hot, got game, personality and money, reason is girls just seem to come to me and the rest is easy... unfortunately my future doesn't look too bright with the just pass grade I'm getting...

 

[DJsparky]

women think differently,


Fat = lazy not exciting
Ugly = dont take pride in themselves

but you give a woman emotions that make her feel exciting around you, guarentee she'll pick you over any hot stud any day, im living proof of that.

See looks are different to women, because its not in our trait to be veiwed as beautiful, our traits are as a man, strong, confident, being able to lead a woman, protect her etc

women have beauty as a scent to attract us thus replicating, not the other way around,

attraction is about tidying yourself up looking smart, being confident, demonstrating higher value then most guys,not hot looks..

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Some "nice guys" get rejected by women because they are too passive. Women want nice but that doesn't mean wimpy. Nice guys still make decisions and don't get all desperate.

Size does not matter as much as how you work it

Nice guys are passive by nature, that's what makes them nice at least by the definition given by women. Think about it the last time one of you or your girlfriends went out with a guy that was passive, what was the first descriptive word that you would use when asked "What kind of guy was he?" Nine times out of ten women start off by saying "He was nice but...." It's inevitable, whenever someone is first described as "nice" there is always a "but" trailing right behind it.

And about the size thing, you're with a guy the size of a sturdy table leg; it doesn't matter? Yeah right.... It reminds me of the woman who asks her lover "Why is your organ so small?" He replies "I didn't know I was playing in a Cathedral." Size doesn't matter... Pffffftttttttt.......

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Let's summarize all this shiat. Women think they know what they want but they don't. Am I right?

:rockon: :yes: :rockon: :yes: :rockon:

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

lol....what a load of s.hite.

thread starter isnt a woman you can tell, and as for Jariel...what a muppet

LOL @ "muppet" :crackup:

 

[brucevangeorge]

There is a difference between being assertive/confident and having a big ego. Women will think you have a big ego if you constantly put others down and have a condescending tone. She will look at how you act to other people, not just her, to get a better idea of your character. Some people with a big ego just give off that "I'm better than everyone" vibe.. which isn't a turn-on for anybody.

I know so many guys who try to play up that ego sh*t. It's annoying, not attractive.

So it would be better to be humle and not mention it at all?

I'm not saiyng to have zero confidence and constantly be like: "ohh, I can't do it." or "yeah, I suck", and etc.

I'm saying simply say nothing in relation to that.


Hmm, maybe I do have an ego. You mention putting others down. I do that often, but only when others are being morons. Could be be misconstrued.

How would a man that you know deal with idiots? (who constatly put themselves in your path to show you that you are wrong and they know better.... but really they know less) Without seeming like a jackass?

 

[brucevangeorge]

Just be yourself, just be nice.. Sounds like the definition of an AFC to me. Yep be supplicant, say tons of nice things, even buy her a drink. You'll keep her interest for a date or two and then all of a sudden she doesn't return your calls and you're wondering why. Then the entire cycle starts all over with another woman, then another and another. You become bitter and the saga continues.

Yeah, just be yourself and be "nice" and prove the old adage that nice guys finish last. Think about it, if being yourself and being "nice" were the secret, wouldn't the lives of "nice guys" be much different?

Yeah, women go for nice guys as much as they believe that size doesn't matter....

Nice could mean different things to different people.

To me it's giving her a compliment when she needs one, helping her with luggage, bags, heavy **** that she struggles with, opening doors once in a while, lying once in a while saying "thats a great idea" for minor things, etc.

But not letting her take me for a ride.. why the hell would I buy her a drink if she doesn't do the same for me? Or let her use me to run her errands? There's a difference between being nice and simply being her lapdog.

One is used sparingly. The other feels like an obligation and is done too often.

 

[brucevangeorge]

lol....what a load of s.hite.

thread starter isnt a woman you can tell, and as for Jariel...what a muppet

Hmm. Could be.

Let's see.

How can you tell?

I know! Ask questions.


To the starter: How was your prom? Who did you go with? Why did you feel it was the way you thought it was? What about your girlfriends? What did you think of them?

What sorts of crap is there in those girly magazines?

etc..

 

[Bvbidd]

You can tell because she (He) is trying to sound smart and logical when talking about something that does not have much to do with logic in the first place.

It's a guy.

 

[khash]

guys, DO NOT listen to this girl. she is ****ing jelous how much we know about them. just take what she says and laugh at her.

 

[Consent]

Not at all, you just socialise and learn how to talk to people without trying to lay them.

Yeah but you're socializing and learning how to talk to people trying to expand your social circle. Cold approaches are just a form of socializing.

yes...self improvement and hard work towards improving your looks

Self improvement and hard work is about improving looks?! okay. So I guess you're a fan of plastic surgery since it would speed it up with even better results.

 

[GirlCrazy]

Most women are not too shy or intimidated to approach a man... they would rather have guys flock to them.

Ok, this is where I call bullsh!t.

First off, most women lack the self-confidence to approach men, not the other way around. Even at my age, the closest most women come to approaching is when she sends one of her friends on a "scouting mission" to guage the level of interest in a man. "Soooo ... what do you think about my friend?" or "My friend is waiting for you to ask her out ... so when are you gonna ask her out?". The upside for men is that we have more control over who we date - we are the "choosers", while women sit around hoping the guy they like is the guy that approaches them.

Secondly, out of all my female friends, past and present, I can't recall a single one of them ever saying how wonderful it is that guys flock to them. Most complain that a) They are approached by men they have no interest in or b) They aren't approached enough.

And as far as men taking dating advice from women goes: If men were satisfied from the dating advice we received from women, this message forum probably wouldn't exist.

 

[DonJuanForever]

Lol, lol, lol, guys listen

Nobody's right and nobody's wrong.

Women view the world totally different than how we do, how they view "hot" is different, how they rate a guy as "good-looking" is different.
We are logical, a pretty face, nice body= good looking.
Women are emotional, if she feels a certain "feel" when looking at him and being around him, he becomes = hot, good looking.

She is posting based on how women view the world, not based on how we view it. That's why your mother and sister would say about the same thing, because that's how women view the world.

We are attracted to women beginning with the matter, or the body, then we go into how smart, cool, and how great of a personality she has.

Women are attracted first to the guy's beliefs, which determine is she gets this "feel" when being around him, which makes her want him. Then she goes into trying to change him if he is a jerk, into being smart, ambitious, nicer, etc.

Guys open your minds and read more.

 

[DonJuanForever]

To sum it up, for a woman to be lusted after and wanted by guys, she should take care of her body and dress very sexy= many potential partners.

To sum it up, for a man to become attractive to women, he should take care of his belief system and belief within his core being that he is superior, the prize, and "the shyt" basically better than the world. The guy then carries around a flow with him that gives women that "feeL" that makes her horny and makes her want him. Just so happens, most times, he is a total jerk with no goals in life, and she tries to help him become more ambitious and more nicer......but without the "feeL" she cannot possibly be attracted to him, period.

Why is this so hard? Life is so simple. Period.

 

[Bvbidd]

DJF stop with this bull****.

I'm sure most guys in jail think that way.. do women walking by a jail cell suddenly become horny as the giant nasty 500 pound greasy men scream at them? I doubt that.

Your only half right.. stop with the simplification.

 

[Jariel]

Self improvement and hard work is about improving looks?! okay. So I guess you're a fan of plastic surgery since it would speed it up with even better results.

I'd advocate plastic surgery to anyone with abnormal genetic features or deformities, but the average guy can transform his looks without it. He just needs to focus on good diet, discipline in the gym, good fashion sense, good skin care and grooming.

I see you've already accused me of talking theoretical bullsh1t so here's something you won't see from the keyboard jockeys...proof! This is me before and after acting on the advice I've just given.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/643/beforeafter9ew.jpg
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/608/beforeafterbody5nz.jpg

 

[Bonhomme]

Re-frame this

This is good advice, if interpreted properly.

1] Putting too much emphasis on lame pick up lines and hypothetical situations, and not enough on APPEARANCE.
A lot of you think when random women you approached weren't interested, it means your pick up line fell flat. The real reason is she probably did not think you are good looking.

Also, be realistic. Take a look in the mirror. How do you think a girl would rate YOU? If you think you're about a 6, approach girls in the same range. If you think you are a 10 (unless you resemble Brad Pitt, you probably are not), then approach HB10s.

True, but it's not only about natural looks, but the entire package. This includes the way you dress and the way you carry yourself (which may be even more important than natural looks -- see: http://www.sosuave.com/quick2/tip470.htm).

And "good looking" is very subjective. My ex thought Brad Pitt was gross, so by her standards I'm way hotter than Brad Pitt.

2] Most of you think being ****y is a good thing. While confidence is key, you don't want to over do it. Don't constantly talk about yourself, and NEVER put down a girl you want, even in a playful manner. Ask questions.

Nothing is more satisfying to a girl than rejecting a ****y, egotistical fvcker.

Talking about yourself all the time and always trying to put people down are markers of insecurity, not confidence. A confident guy has nothing to prove, and just makes the interaction enjoyable.


I think Ms.DJ's point here is this: Whatever happened to charm?

As was brought up earlier, the difference between playful teasing and genuine put-downs is enormous. If someone doesn't have enough of a sense of humor to deal with a little "pulling the pigtails," you might not want to date her anyway. This is where I disagree with Ms.DJ, in a general sense (though humor-challenged people have their counterparts of the opposite sex, too).

The key point here: are we having fun yet?

3] Many of you are so wrapped up in saying the right things, and acting the right way, you forget the most important thing: being nice. Be laid back. Don't try too hard to be something you're not. Just be yourself. (emphasis added)

While the last line contradicts the first 2 points if strictly interpreted: e.g., what if "just being yourself" is being an arrogant slob? The point is to be natural. Don't be fake. This does not preclude self-improvement. Just that there's a difference between self-improvement and laying down bullsh1t. Be the best you you can possibly be.

What gives "being nice" a bad name is that it has devolved into a polite euphemism for spinelessness. Anybody with brain one should know the different between being personable and being a wussy.

OK. Done with dinner. Time to get dressed up real sharp, go out, and charm the gals.

 

[DJMaC23]

Would a woman write "slaves to pvssy" and "some of your attitudes are so crappy it's no wonder you aren't scoring"?

Actually one of my ex girlfriends would describe guys as slaves to the P...I would be like yea, but then you are a slave to my d*ck now come do your thing

Some of the stuff "she" says is right, a part is dumb BS

 

[Jariel]

True, but it's not only about natural looks, but the entire package. This includes the way you dress and the way you carry yourself

What gives "being nice" a bad name is that it has devolved into a polite euphemism for spinelessness. Anybody with brain one should know the different between being personable and being a wussy.