MsDonJuan said:
Wowwww. Never thought I'd ever run across a message board where men debate dating even MORE than women do! I have learned a lot about the male point of view by reading all these posts, even though it reinforces what I already knew: men are slaves to pvssy and will put on any kind of facade to get it. But some of your attitudes are so crappy it's no wonder you aren't scoring. Some of the biggest mistakes:
1] Putting too much emphasis on lame pick up lines and hypothetical situations, and not enough on APPEARANCE.
A lot of you think when random women you approached weren't interested, it means your pick up line fell flat. The real reason is she probably did not think you are good looking.
Also, be realistic. Take a look in the mirror. How do you think a girl would rate YOU? If you think you're about a 6, approach girls in the same range. If you think you are a 10 (unless you resemble Brad Pitt, you probably are not), then approach HB10s.
2] Most of you think being ****y is a good thing. While confidence is key, you don't want to over do it. Don't constantly talk about yourself, and NEVER put down a girl you want, even in a playful manner. Ask questions.
Nothing is more satisfying to a girl than rejecting a ****y, egotistical fvcker.
3] Many of you are so wrapped up in saying the right things, and acting the right way, you forget the most important thing: being nice. Be laid back. Don't try too hard to be something you're not. Just be yourself.
I just spent a lot of time typing out a brilliant, poignant point by point rebuttal to your post but it got lost, so I will give you the short brilliant version.
Your advice is silly and counter-productive.
Most of the guys here are young or have been hurt and have no clue how to interact with the opposite sex.(They are not slaves to pvssy - yes they do want to have sex, so what?)
1. I don't use pick up lines and I think they are stupid but if having a line or gimmick helps a guy with a paralyzing fear of the opposite sex to get up off his a s s and start approaching and talking to women instead of their palm then what the hell.
I am a 7.5 or an 8 and I pick up/sleep with/date women who are 8,9 and 10's and are much younger than me. If a man learns how to communicate with women and to capture and lead their imagination and their emotions he can have virtually any women he wants(except for maybe strippers and other damaged women). You are right though a woman who is a ten will pick a loser guy 10 over a loser guy 6 any day.
2. I agree "****y and funny" is stupid - I think a guy should be confident and fun. However, most of the guys with problems are shy or "nice" guys and they need to learn to put their personalities out there. They need to learn to voice their opinions and passions and to hell with what people think. If they cross the line they will learn to adjust. (actually, I can be a bit ****y at times but I know how to do it in a fun way and without coming across as an egotistical ****)
3. Be nice, be yourself - yeah, and stay home and play with yourself while your at it.
Look, you are not totally wrong here - but the advice sucks. I understand what you mean but the guys who need advice don't.
It is fine to be nice - but you cannot be a doormat, chump, supplicator or emotional dumping ground for women. They do not date men like this.
Be laid back - yes. But you also must have an opinion and desires - you must know what you want and not be afraid to let people know about it.
Be yourself - yes. But don't act the same way you have always acted. If you like to stay home, sit on the couch with your video games and play with Mr. Winky then "being yourself" really isn't going to get you anywhere.
Let people know who you are. Express to people what you are passionate about and go after the things in life that you want. If you don't have any passions go out and find some. Be adventuress, have fun, care about living life to its fullest. Be exciting so that people are drawn to you.
Be the best "you" you can possibly be.
