Some guys really need to get that stick out of their ass

[STR8UP]

I was listening to the radio this morning, a talk radio show, and I caught the middle of a discussion where apparently there was a b/f and a g/f who were having some relationship "issues".

It seems that the g/f is bisexual, and that although the b/f is happy to participate in adventurous sexual activities WITH her, when it's all over with he then starts to take jabs at her, calling her a "lesbian" and such.

Something like this normally wouldn't catch my attention so much, but it is a topic that I have discussed with my business partner recently.

See, we have a mutual friend who has a bisexual g/f. And although he isn't necessarily opposed to the idea that she likes women, he gets very agitated when she is out having fun and he deems her to have "stepped over the line".

Now I don't know exactly where that line is, cause I've seen her doing some things that I though he would get pissy over, but he kept his cool. Then I have seen her do things that I wouldn't have batted an eye over, and he gets all bent out of shape.

The things he gets upset about tend to be when she dances provocatively, or poses for a camera in a certain way. Another woman I met recently (who also happens to like women as well as men) was running away from my camera as I tried to take a picture of her messing around dancing on a pole, saying her boyfriend would be "pissed".

So what's the problem with these guys?

If you don't LIKE the fact that your girl swings both ways, and you don't LIKE the fact that she is a very sexual person, GET RID OF HER AND FIND SOMEONE ELSE!

I respect women like this. Especially my buddy's g/f. She oozes sex, but at the same time she seems very devoted to him. Girls like her tend to be more open and honest, and don't try to hide behind a facade.

I did have one openly bisexual g/f in the past, but she had the attitude that "sex is a one on one thing". What kind of luck is that for me to get stuck with a bisexual 'dud"? It was fun sitting on the street corner with her admiring hot ass as it walked by, but it was quite a turn off for her to shoot down the idea of bringing in some "spice"

I know some of you guys who are into "innocent" girls will have plenty to say about this, but for me it's a no brainer. I would LOVE to have a highly sexual woman who isn't ashamed of who she is.

Whay can't these guys be happy with who they are with, or simply move on?

I have some ideas as to why, but I'm curious to hear what you guys think.

 

[NewMan]

I believe it's a case by case situation. When the guy is insecure - i.e. see's her dancing with what he perceives is a 'Threat' (another confident Male or Sexually charged/confident female) he becomes insecure - now swap out the confident male, with a AFC/Geek, and he's now not perceived as such a threat.

It's an interesting topic - I personnally sit on the fence with this - and think it's situation dependant - on how she and the other person react. In some instances it can be taken to far.

 

[STR8UP]

One thing that irritates me is watching guys who try to suppress their women's personalities.

She is who she is!

She might bend to appease you when you are around, but that just amps it up when you aren't there!

If you give her the impression that she is constantly being judged, you are only going to see her "good" side. the little devil is only going to come out when you aren't there.

So basically, you get pissy because you want your woman to appear "respectable", when in reality all you are doing is making her act differently when you are around and probably causing her to act OUT out of repression when you aren't. Either way people know who she really is, and most people aren't looking at her as the ho-bag slvt that you think they are.

Give me a hot, sexually adventurous, bi-sexual chick and I'm be ALL OVER that.

This one who said her b/f would get pissed if he saw a pic of her dancing on a pole?

This same girl was standing next to me, (actually more like ON me she was so close) talking about how gorgeous one of the other models was, and how much she would like to see her naked. She says something like that to me and I just bust her balls about it in a lighthearted manner that lets her know that I'm cool with it but at the same time it doesn't make me drool uncontrollably. Her b/f would probably get pissed at her mentioning how hot the other model was. What a wanker. I think I need to hold out a branch for this one.....

 

[NewMan]

your right.

Better she is who she is 100% of the time - than be someone else when you are not around....

if you don't like the way she is, you m ust DTB and get out.

 

[azanon]

My only comment (OP) would be to not necessarily equate bi-sexual with highly sexual. I've know plenty of heterosexual women that absolutely love sex, and I'm sure there are women who are open to sexual encounters with both men and women, yet aren't hypersexual if you were to evaluate their frequency.*

Hmm, the more I think about it, it might seem that a woman that prefers to not be penetrated by her "partner" (a man, basically) on some occasions, possibly has some hangups with that aspect of sex and is, thus, inhibited sexually in some way(s).

But I agree, if a man sees some potential problems here as I admittedly do, it makes sense to move on rather than to judge, b*tch, and whine.

 

[madslackin]

One thing that irritates me is watching guys who try to suppress their women's personalities.

She is who she is!

She might bend to appease you when you are around, but that just amps it up when you aren't there!

I totally agree with this yet I think it's much more general than sexual preference. Using your example of wanting a woman to appear 'respectable' - you're right. If she's the crazy dance-on-the-pole-in-public type, that's what you get, and you don't have any right (or reason) to try to stop that. I found myself enjoying myself in dating much more when I realized this. Nobody has a good time when one or both people are just trying to play to whatever they think are the others' expectations.

 

[STR8UP]

It hasn't always been this way, but I have grown to realize that the world is the way it is. You can learn to accept it, or you can try to create your own fantasy reality based upon an idealization.

What does this mean?

It means that women will admit things to me that they wouldn't DREAM of talking about with other men. they know I do not judge, therefore I get a glimpse inside the REAL world of women.

Sure, I could pretend (as some other posters do) that one day they will find that one "good" girl, the one with no skeletons in her closet, the one who saved herself just for HIM....the knight in shining armor.

What a crock of SH!T.

These men who like to "pretend" that these fantasy women exist would be shocked and appalled if they only knew the secrets these women hide.

Why do I think that MOST women have bisexual tendencies? Because they have TOLD me so during candid, one on one conversations. It might take some coaxing, but almost every woman I have spoken with on this subject has admitted to being at least bi curious.

One told me about the sleepover she had with her H/S friends, where they took turns going down on her. An ex, (who shocked me when she said this) coyly admitted to being fingered by another chick at some time in the past. She was too embarrassed to go into details, but I doubt she had any reason to lie.

Almost every other woman I have had sex with has at least made passing reference to their curiosity toward a sexual experience with another woman.

Guys, your chick has an inner FREAK, just dying to get out. You can be the one to assist her in letting it come out, or she might be obliged to find someone else who is more willing. Think about that for a minute.

azanon- I wasn't equating bisexuality with high sexuality, however, I have found that most openly bisexual women ARE highly sexual.

I wouldn't consider my last LTR to be bisexual (although she admitted to have experimenting), but I would consider her to be highly sexual. The two aren't mutually exclusive, but bisexual women tend to be a lot more open about such matters.

 

[MaddXMan]

So what if your sexually adventurous girl, with whom you're trying to nurture her inner freak, wants to have a 3-way....with another man??!?!

Edit: spelling

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Heheh,..

What if the roles were reversed in this? I wonder if we'd expect the same from a woman who's boyfriend was bisexual? You see, when a guy's with a bisexual woman, the assumption is he'll be getting in on a 3-Way in which he'll play an active role. Not so for a heterosexual woman with a bisexual BF. In fact, is there really even such a thing? We call him a fag for even once exploring homosexuality. The presumption is he's a latent homosexual in denial with no regard for circumstance. Once he crosses that line, he's queer - or presumed to be.

 

[Truman181]

Why do I think that MOST women have bisexual tendencies? Because they have TOLD me so during candid, one on one conversations. It might take some coaxing, but almost every woman I have spoken with on this subject has admitted to being at least bi curious.

One told me about the sleepover she had with her H/S friends, where they took turns going down on her. An ex, (who shocked me when she said this) coyly admitted to being fingered by another chick at some time in the past. She was too embarrassed to go into details, but I doubt she had any reason to lie.

You are into bi women and have the opinion that all women have bi tendencies so you unconsciously look for external "convincers" to prove that your version of reality is the right one. Don't feel bad, that's human nature.

Personally I have NO interest in bi women. I do not share, PERIOD. You may think that I am severely limiting my options and that's fine. Bi women filter themselves out of my screening process.

 

[azanon]

I think people perspectives depends a lot on where they live. I'm in an office, close quarters with about 10 women. Forced at gunpoint to guess, I'd guess that at least 9 have never had a bi-sexual experience and don't desire to because that behavior, as a whole, is neither encourage nor promoted in "little rock, AR".

Despite being non-religious, I prefer to think of bi-sexual, and homosexual in terms of behaviors/perversions that some endulge in on the basis of pleasure. By definition, humans (as well as all other mammals) are heterosexual. To use an analogy, I could "behave and pretend" to be a girl. I could "behave and pretend to be" homosexual. But regardless, I'm still male and heterosexual; male at even the genetic level and heterosexual by bodily design.

Another analogy, I can quack like a duck, waddle like a duck, even raise baby ducklings to make them think I'm their real mother, but... does that make me a duck? You aren't your behaviors.

Where's LMS when I need him to agree with me!

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Hmmm...this reminds me of something that happened awhile ago:

A "Bi-Sexual" woman once said to a friend of mine (who was "sprung" on some EXTRA-freaky assed chick) that he should NEVER take a woman who likes the taste and feel of pusssy just as much or MORE than he does SERIOUSLY-----as far as having a lasting relationship is concerned.

When he asked her "Why?" All she said was "Because she'll never be fully settled and content with just YOU----since she likes women too."

But in my opinion, the underlying reason she may have said this to him might be because:

A woman who isn't resolute in her gender preferences (a woman who ISN'T fully and WILLINGLY grounded in her role as a heterosexual WOMAN), CANNOT really be expected to be decisive when it comes to making a REAL commitment to a MAN----primarily because her personality is so "split" that she doesn't even know HOW.

But that's just my observational, unscientific, and unpopular opinion, though.

What say YOU, troops?

 

[KarmaSutra]

I was listening to the radio this morning, a talk radio show, and I caught the middle of a discussion where apparently there was a b/f and a g/f who were having some relationship "issues".

Monsters, Bubba or Lex and Terry?

 

[Latinoman]

This is how I see things. I have no problems with a 3-some as long as it involves myself with two women... does not involve a woman that is in a serious relationship with me...and as long as there is NOT homosexual act there. In another words, two women and myself and me doing both of them.

I am NOT into two women getting at each other. I view that as a homosexual act. And quite frankly, I am not into homosexual behavior. Plain and simple.

 

[Warrior74]

No bisexual chics for me. every guy I know who has went down that road didn't get the threesomes he was looking for, he got the butch dyke with a strap on fvcking his girl and making him look like a chump. Or the constant cheating with other girls, and eventually other girls and their boyfriends and then dumped. It's a slippery slope for a real and lasting relationship to be built on. In my opinion. But if your just banging her...sure go for it. You might get that threesome, I have.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

I could "behave and pretend" to be a girl. I could "behave and pretend to be" homosexual. But regardless, I'm still male and heterosexual; male at even the genetic level and heterosexual by bodily design.

It's not that I disagree with you AZ, but what if, bodily, I'm born naturally as a transgendered person, possessing both male and female plumbing? Am I not deciding (or having it decided by how my parents raise me) which gender I'll pursue?

This is a question feminists (and certain schools of clinical psychology) have been struggling with for decades now - is gender a genetic determinant or a learn behavior? Nature vs. nurture. If gender is determined by genetics, women are 'predisposed' for femininity and must fight this in order to counter it. If it's learned behavior (as most feminists like to argue) and people are 'tabula rasa' then the genetic basis of homosexuality becomes invalid.

 

[Latinoman]

Hmmm...this reminds me of something that happened awhile ago:

A "Bi-Sexual" woman once said to a friend of mine (who was "sprung" on some EXTRA-freaky assed chick) that he should NEVER take a woman who likes the taste and feel of pusssy just as much or MORE than he does SERIOUSLY-----as far as having a lasting relationship is concerned.

When he asked her "Why?" All she said was "Because she'll never be fully settled and content with just YOU----since she likes women too."

But in my opinion, the underlying reason she may have said this to him might be because:

A woman who isn't resolute in her gender preferences (a woman who ISN'T fully and WILLINGLY grounded in her role as a heterosexual WOMAN), CANNOT really be expected to be decisive when it comes to making a REAL commitment to a MAN----primarily because her personality is so "split" that she doesn't even know HOW.

But that's just my observational, unscientific, and unpopular opinion, though.

What say YOU, troops?

You are correct.

 

[MaddXMan]

This is how I see things. I have no problems with a 3-some as long as it involves myself with two women... does not involve a woman that is in a serious relationship with me...and as long as there is NOT homosexual act there. In another words, two women and myself and me doing both of them.

I am NOT into two women getting at each other. I view that as a homosexual act. And quite frankly, I am not into homosexual behavior. Plain and simple.

So no carpet-munching?

Random thought: That song "I kissed a girl" is lame. A girl kisses a girl - so what? That's the in-thing to do right for drunk partying sluts right? Ohh so adventurous. Naw, you want to impress me, go downtown on her then tounge kiss me with your face all wet from...............

 

[STR8UP]

Monsters, Bubba or Lex and Terry?

Lex and Terry I believe.

 

[azanon]

It's not that I disagree with you AZ, but what if, bodily, I'm born naturally as a transgendered person, possessing both male and female plumbing? Am I not deciding (or having it decided by how my parents raise me) which gender I'll pursue?

This is a valid and natural question to ask (the question is begged) and one that we wouldn't be able to answer definitively prior to genetic testing of the sex chromosomes.

Although I don't know 100% certain how this scenario you described comes out when tested, I'm pretty certain this is right; If one has male plumbing (regardless of also having female plumbing), then that's not going to happen unless said individual has a "y" chromosome (on the 23rd pair). The penis develops from the ****oris due to the "y" chromosome exhibiting its influence. In the absence of the y chromosome, the ****oris remains atrophied. Of course the presence of the y chromosome effects certain chemical levels in the body, most notably more testosterone than a female would have.

As defined by genetics, if one has a y chromosome, they are male.

Ever heard of klinefelter's disease? This is a situation where an individual has 2 x's and 1 y chromosome. These individuals usually have female plumbing but quite often have the strength of a male and other tell-tell signs (such as a strong jaw/high cheekbones). So often, a lot of these showed up in competitive sports and the Olympics. I know in the past, all athletes were genetically tested, and if a "female" came up with Klinefelter's, "she" was disqualified because well, to be quite blunt, .... males can't compete in female competition. Being males, these XXY's with female plumbing are always sterile.

Being a tennis fan, I'm highly suspicious that Amelie Mauresmo is a Klinefelters. I was suspicious of this long before she recently announced she's a Lesbian. I think she's actually a heterosexual male like all males naturally are.

This is a question feminists (and certain schools of clinical psychology) have been struggling with for decades now - is gender a genetic determinant or a learn behavior? Nature vs. nurture. If gender is determined by genetics, women are 'predisposed' for femininity and must fight this in order to counter it. If it's learned behavior (as most feminists like to argue) and people are 'tabula rasa' then the genetic basis of homosexuality becomes invalid.

The studies Ive see certainly show a strong genetic component for gender specification. They've done tons of "controlled" experiments on babies and toddlers where "gender" preferences were exhibited.

So I think the only way to counter what should come naturally is to have a warped environment. The only other explanation I'm currently open to on the matter (other than just "perverted" indulgence) is to simply categorize it as a mental disorder that should be in the DSM. I don't say that to be mean or hateful towards these people, rather I'm just being matter-of-fact about it.

We're humans and we're really, really intelligent. One can "do" anything they damn well please including, but not limited to, having sex with your same gender. Nevertheless, I say "You are what you do" only in a figurative sense.