Some guys really need to get that stick out of their ass

[STR8UP]

So what if your sexually adventurous girl, with whom you're trying to nurture her inner freak, wants to have a 3-way....with another man??!?!

Edit: spelling

I might consider tag teaming a chick I'm not involved with, but I don't think I would be comfortable being involved in that situation if I am in a relationship.

Remember, we are talking about a bisexual person. I am not a bisexual person. If the man WERE bisexual and the woman was "into it", but at the end of the day she overtly or covertly sabotaged a "good thing" for her, my advice would be the same

 

[STR8UP]

Check me if you think I'm crazy....I'd rather have a girl share that with me than hide it.

Right on.

I get the feeling that too many guys would rather adopt a "don't ask don't tell" policy.

I don't want to pretend my woman is someone she isn't. I want an honest and open relationship.

I am the kind of guy who ACCEPTS the fact that people do and think A LOT of things that they are too ashamed of bringing forward with most people, for fear of being judged and chastised by other people who are often hypocritical and have plenty of their OWN little secrets. They have no room to talk.

 

[ketostix]

I might consider tag teaming a chick I'm not involved with, but I don't think I would be comfortable being involved in that situation if I am in a relationship.

Remember, we are talking about a bisexual person. I am not a bisexual person. If the man WERE bisexual and the woman was "into it, but at the end of the day she overtly or covertly sabotaged a "good thing" for her, my advice would be the same

I agree with your points str8 about men needing to either be comfortable with the way their woman is or leave her and not to live in a fantasy land. I also believe that women hide a lot of secrets from most men and are freakier than they might seem. But when it comes to bi-sexual chicks I'm more inline with azanon. I consider homosexuals to be abnormal and a defect, whether character or genetic still a defect. I don't think a bi-sexual woman would make a good LTR IMO. I would keep it casual and short-term with any bi-sexual chick myself.

 

[STR8UP]

Heheh,..

What if the roles were reversed in this? I wonder if we'd expect the same from a woman who's boyfriend was bisexual?

I don't expect anything from anyone. If you aren't comfortable with that aspect of your SO, you probably shouldn't be with them. And if you ARE comfortable with the fact, you shouldn't be so insecure about it if you are going to participate.

I should mention that the talk show hosts basically had the same attitude that I do- dude needs to relax and enjoy the ride, cause he probably won't end up marrying the girl, yet he will spend the rest of his life looking for another one like her when she dumps his insecure ass.

Once he crosses that line, he's queer - or presumed to be.

I understand what you are getting at.

I have met married couples (with kids, mind you) where the husband was as queer as a 3 dollar bill. Not even for a second would I have pegged him as bisexual. I would call him a total flamer.

The thing is, the majority of the bisexual women I have met have been pretty damn feminine. You wouldn't be able to guess that they go both ways by looking at them or talking to them in normal convo. And as many conversations as I have had with these women while admiring OTHER women, I can't imagine any of them enjoying getting rammed witha 10" strap-on by a bull dike with softball mullet.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

jezuz what a retared thread.

This is the anwer: Determine the kind of girl you want, become the man you want to be, and go find her.

The world is the way it is. Take from it what you want.

 

[STR8UP]

I consider homosexuals to be abnormal and a defect, whether character or genetic still a defect. I don't think a bi-sexual woman would make a good LTR IMO. I would keep it casual and short-term with any bi-sexual chick myself.

Obviously homosexuality isn't "natural" in that if it were prevalent enough our species would cease to exist.

I do, however, believe that homosexuality IS part of the overall scheme of life, even if it serves no apparent function in the continuance of our species.

You could say the same about any number of "alternative" sexual practices.

Does a guy with a shoe fetish who loves jerking off on women's shoes serve any purpose in the grand scheme of things?

What about a more common fetish such as anal sex? Doesn't do much to continue our species, but it's pretty common nonetheless.

I would venture to say that EVERYONE has at least mild fetishes. Nobody like plain vanilla sex time after time. So whether it's using a dildo on your chick in private, or bringing another person into the bedroom, it's all part of our desire as humans for sexual novelty. Homosexuality might go a little deeper than that, but I think you can see my point.

 

[STR8UP]

jezuz what a retared thread.

This is the anwer: Determine the kind of girl you want, become the man you want to be, and go find her.

The world is the way it is. Take from it what you want.

I like how people make it a point to POST on threads they deem to me "retared".

If you would have read the thread you might have realized that you simply reiterated part of my point.

 

[jophil28]

It seems that the g/f is bisexual, and that although the b/f is happy to participate in adventurous sexual activities WITH her, when it's all over with he then starts to take jabs at her, calling her a "lesbian" and such.


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"Is this what DD means when he speaks about "Double your Dating " ?

 

[KarmaSutra]

jezuz what a retared thread.

This is the anwer: Determine the kind of girl you want, become the man you want to be, and go find her.

The world is the way it is. Take from it what you want.

Eureka!

This numbnut managed to find our Holy Grail. No need for us to discuss anything regarding women, ah hell, no sense talking about anything because this is such blatant genius.

Tell me fvcktard, What are the chances you can find my goddamned car keys?

 

[Latinoman]

So no carpet-munching?

Random thought: That song "I kissed a girl" is lame. A girl kisses a girl - so what? That's the in-thing to do right for drunk partying sluts right? Ohh so adventurous. Naw, you want to impress me, go downtown on her then tounge kiss me with your face all wet from...............

Many men kiss women...but very few men has mastered the art of kissing a woman into creating a fantasy in her mind.

Do not underestimate a GREAT kisser's ability to put a woman into a state of "confusion". A GREAT kisser just don't kiss any woman. A GREAT kisser only kiss the woman he wants to seduce...at a later day.

 

[The Bat]

This is a question feminists (and certain schools of clinical psychology) have been struggling with for decades now - is gender a genetic determinant or a learn behavior? Nature vs. nurture. If gender is determined by genetics, women are 'predisposed' for femininity and must fight this in order to counter it. If it's learned behavior (as most feminists like to argue) and people are 'tabula rasa' then the genetic basis of homosexuality becomes invalid.

...which falls along the lines of "you need to get in touch with your feminine side" mantra that gets thrown at us guys day in and day out.

Although most people, biologically, are XX and XY...there are exceptions such as the supposed homosexuality gene and certain hermaphroditic mutations.

But those are exceptions. Like maybe 1 in 100,000 (don't know the exact same number but my guess would be pretty close). That means majority of people we will meet are genetically male and female heterosexuals. Some just choose to be homosexuals because of learned behavior and immediate benefits that suits their effeminate personalities.

But feminists might be right about one thing. You can masculinize and femininze a woman and a man, respectively. "You go, girl! What a tough lady!" and "You should be more sensitive and caring for others' needs" are just small proofs of this behavioral modifications.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Eureka!

This numbnut managed to find our Holy Grail. No need for us to discuss anything regarding women, ah hell, no sense talking about anything because this is such blatant genius.

Tell me fvcktard, What are the chances you can find my goddamned car keys?

Thanks for the compliment. But you spelled numnah wrong.

and why oh earth would you need help finding your keys? aren't they where you left them?

 

[STR8UP]

This is true.

I remember being VERY uneasy about my bisexual g/f being so comfortable with her body. Comfortable to the point where she really didn't care who saw her naked. And I felt that her comfort level was a slap in the face to "what we shared". I gritted my teeth and went on with things, but in retrospect it had nothing to do with her taking away something that was "mine". I had a stick up my ass, and if it was something that I couldn't get past then I should have let her go sooner.

Speaking of jealousy......I was out with my buddy and his g/f last night, and they were telling me about how he was out on the boat and hanging by the pool with four chicks, and all the women got naked, INCLUDING his g/f.

This really shocked me cause they have no privacy fence or anything, and although it was only other women around, I would have expected him to have been his usual disapproving self.

It sounded like they were having a lot of fun I need to get my sh!t done so I can start hanging out over there again....

 

[STR8UP]

Basically, I think the OP is a contemptable, little pervert. He's a "girly man". It might be all the rage these days to be into the "bi" thing, but in reality it's just a slap in the guy's face. I agree that you either become comfortable with what your girl does, or kick her to the curb. My point is, if you're someone who is comfortable with your girl having sex with anyone, of any gender, besides yourself, you have issues.

I think this guy likes to have women tell him all their deep, dark, secrets and then goes home and jacks off in his closet.

I'm sensing some definite, latent homosexual tendencies here.

Perfect example of the closed minded, homophobic, most likely hypocritical guy with the proverbial "stick" up his ass.

Now run along and play with the rest of the folks who are living in "that river in Egypt", cause we all know there are plenty of you around.

 

[Latinoman]

As a person that is very perceptive, this is what I have to say.


There is not doubt in my mind that STR8UP is adjusting his values and morals and standards. And to justify his new behavior, he is creating threads like this.

I think his shift is due to the fact that the type of woman he is currently gravitating over are the strippers, drunks, and other shady characters. He is not fishing in a good pond so he has to deal with cat fish and other bottom feeders.

Intimacy is one of the biggest gifts a woman can give to a man. And that includes her naked body. When a woman blatantly shows herself to the world, she is literally diminishing that “gift” for her man. In fact, her intimacy means nothing.

When a man does not tolerate that behavior, he is “ridiculed” and called “stiff”. When if fact, all he is doing is acting like a Man.

STR8UP…I feel bad for you, because you are an entrepreneur and own your own business and you are single and alone. Sadly, I suspect you will fall victim of a predator that will take advantage of you and with her, 25-50% of your hard work. If you lower your standards, your chances of losing are considerably greater.

What STR8UP is doing is not uncommon. He is lowering his standards in order to get a woman in his life and justify the type of women he is getting. He justifies this by saying, “I am progressive. I don’t have a stick in my azz”.

And I say…SURE. LOL.

 

[STR8UP]

As a person that is very perceptive, this is what I have to say.


There is not doubt in my mind that STR8UP is adjusting his values and morals and standards. And to justify his new behavior, he is creating threads like this.

You sound like a broken record.

Lowering my standards? Funny.

If anything my standards are through the roof at this point in my life. I haven't had an LTR in almost 3 years. That beats my previous record by at least double.

Never in my life have I had a problem finding a girlfriend. I might have settled for certain things in the past, but the fact that I get more attention from women NOW than any other point in my life and that I still remain single is testament to my standards.

I think his shift is due to the fact that the type of woman he is currently gravitating over are the strippers, drunks, and other shady characters.

Oh no, not this again.

Intimacy is one of the biggest gifts a woman can give to a man. And that includes her naked body. When a woman blatantly shows herself to the world, she is literally diminishing that “gift” for her man. In fact, her intimacy means nothing.

I admit, I was and probably would still be put off by a woman who is so "open", but it's nothing more than a function of social conditioning and to a lesser extent insecurities. Yes, we all have insecurities.

I don't deny the fact that it is not something that most men want to deal with, but the way you portray it as a "gift" is proof that you are one of those guys who would rather put the blinders on and pretend rather than accepting reality and putting things into proper perspective. Fact is, pretty much every woman you and I both have ever been with has been seen naked by numerous men. And I'll bet they were ALL "special". Yeaaaa......

When a man does not tolerate that behavior, he is “ridiculed” and called “stiff”. When if fact, all he is doing is acting like a Man.

If you go back and read my original post, you will see that I wasn't calling anyone "stiff" just because they don't like bisexual women. I was posing a question of why a man who has a loyal, devoted g/f who also happens to like women, would get upset and try to control her to "tame" her into what he deems to be appropriate in front of other people. That person is "stiff"

If women who like other women doesn't float your boat, whatever.

Personally, I would love nothing more than to have a sexually adventurous woman who was open to bringing other women around. What is not "manly" about that???

It's only people who like to live in a pretend world that would challenge the masculinity of a man who is open to such a thing.

STR8UP…I feel bad for you, because you are an entrepreneur and own your own business and you are single and alone. Sadly, I suspect you will fall victim of a predator that will take advantage of you and with her, 25-50% of your hard work. If you lower your standards, your chances of losing are considerably greater.

Not a chance in hell. I'm not going to say that I'm immune to falling "victim" to a woman (they are great at the Jeckyll/Hyde routine), but I'm sure as hell as clued up as anyone as to what to avoid to minimize my chances.

What STR8UP is doing is not uncommon. He is lowering his standards in order to get a woman in his life and justify the type of women he is getting.

If I was desperate to have a woman in my life I have a hot 22 yr old chomping at the bit. All I would have to do is accept a long distance relationship and make a 3 hour drive once or twice a month.

Who wouldn't want a hot 22 yr old? Especially one who I only see a few times a month?

I certainly wouldn't mind having one around, but I am unwilling to accept such a proposition, and she knows it. She knows that if she were to move here there might be a chance, otherwise it's a no-go. I know it's a losing proposition so I decline.

He justifies this by saying, “I am progressive. I don’t have a stick in my azz”.

And I say…SURE. LOL.

I don't justify anything. We've been through this before.

Don't try to impose your morals and standards on me in an attempt to make me out to be a perv and yourself out to be a saint.

I say and do what other people only think (and generally hide from the world). And I'm not the least bit ashamed, regardless of what the self-righteous crowd has to say about it.

 

[STR8UP]

Contrary to your belief, not everybody finds that type of thing exciting. Everybody likes some spice, but you're just a sick little bastard.

"sick little bastard"....lol

According to str8, everyone HAS to agree with homosexuality, or they're homophobic.

"Agree" with homosexuality? What is there to "agree" with?

Oh, right. They make a choice to "be that way" or they learned that it was the right way to be from their gay uncles...haha

Because someone has morals, doesn't mean they have a stick up their ass. It means that they live be a value system. I don't have to agree with yours and you don't have to agree with mine, but to call someone a hypocrite simply because they don't agree with your perversions is stupid.

I said you are most likely a hypocrite because of your self-righteous flame bait post that reeks of ignorance and intolerance. I made an assumption based upon the fact that people like you turn out to be hypocritical in most cases.

Why don't you just admit your homosexuality and the fact that you're secretly a cuckold. You enjoy your woman getting banged by other men or women, because you perceive yourself to be inadequate.

LOL.....I'm as straight as straight can be.

More proof that I have you pegged correctly. Only your type would start calling a guy who doesn't mind a little lesbianism a homo.

And I think most people would agree with me.

 

[jophil28]

If you don't LIKE the fact that your girl swings both ways, and you don't LIKE the fact that she is a very sexual person, GET RID OF HER AND FIND SOMEONE ELSE!

I cannot understand why you created all this static about a situation which does not touch you directly or even indirectly.

Bisexual girlfriends are as rare as albino alligators.
However,if you ever find yourself in a relationship with one (not the alligator) and her behavior becomes problematic, then post back at that time - after all we are here to help.

Next dilemma,please.

 

[iqqi]

If I was desperate to have a woman in my life I have a hot 22 yr old chomping at the bit. All I would have to do is accept a long distance relationship and make a 3 hour drive once or twice a month.

Who wouldn't want a hot 22 yr old? Especially one who I only see a few times a month?

OK, you really need to stop doing this. In most of your threads when you are called out for your failure with women, you hide behind this 22 year old. You do not know the future. You do not know what would happen if you did decide to give it a go. Most people who give it a go, do so with a person who seems really into them, aka "chomping at the bit", only to discover weeks later it sadly is not what it seemed to be.

Right now this 22 year old is just a fantasy of the future you "aren't choosing", I'd say it is a straight up (no pun intended) rollo tomassi buffer. Stop acting like it is some measure of success. It's a hypothetical maybe, not a sure shot.

 

[Truman181]

I cannot understand why you created all this static about a situation which does not touch you directly or even indirectly.

Bisexual girlfriends are as rare as albino alligators.
However,if you ever find yourself in a relationship with one (not the alligator) and her behavior becomes problematic, then post back at that time - after all we are here to help.

Next dilemma,please.

See the thing is STR8 is saying that guys have sticks up their asses for trying to tell certain women how to behave.

Yet isn't it ironic that STR8 has decided to tell certain guys how to behave.