Some American men are pathetic panderers

[AmsterdamAssassin]

99.9% of men would "cheat" if they had the chance and there were no consequences.

You can. It's called 'Ethical Non-Monogamy' where you can dip your wick in other women without consequences.
Except that she can be non-monogamous as well and for most guys that's not an option.

 

[Pandora]

Here is the crazy thing. Some men get more angry if you cheat on your girl vs sleeping with a girl in a relationship.

Cheat on your girl = you scum bag horrible person no morals blah blah blah

Sleep with a girl that has a boyfriend = he should have known his gf was a hoe, im doing him a favor, it got nothing to do with me etc

I lost a friend because I told him that I dont look at male infidelity as that big of a deal. Its not ideal but its not the end of the world if it happens once.

I explained to him that I really hate the men that sleep with taken women. To ME that is the real scumbag move that I cant forgive easily.

 

[Pandora]

You can. It's called 'Ethical Non-Monogamy' where you can dip your wick in other women without consequences.
Except that she can be non-monogamous as well and for most guys that's not an option.

Call me a caveman but I believe that a man should have the option of having another woman as long as he is responsible with it. For example, his new woman should not negatively effect his old woman. Both women should be cared for emotionally, physically and finanically.

I promise that this will solve the "dead bedroom" epidemic we have in marriages. It will also decrease divorce rates. No woman wants to lose out to another woman. Competition anxiety is a hell of a drug.

Again the ancient societies already figured this out. It is modern man who is foolish.

The women can not have any other lovers because she will start to treat her husband unfairly. A woman can not love two men at the same time. A man can love 3 women at the same time if he needed to.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Cheat on your girl = you scum bag horrible person no morals blah blah blah
Sleep with a girl that has a boyfriend = he should have known his gf was a hoe, im doing him a favor, it got nothing to do with me etc

Public perception:
Cheating man > no control over his urges
Cheating woman > she's taking control of her own (love) life.

 

[Vanderdonck]

You are correct. The question becomes " are men monogamous in nature?". I dont believe they are monogamous. They should not be "cheating". They should be allowed to have multiple wives or concubines that they are legally bounded to. This way they are actually covering a woman and taking care of her.

Ancient cultures used to provide structure to the " cheating" so everyone benefited from it.

As far as control goes, the male sex drive is too strong for most men to control fully. It should be channeled into either multiple wives for controlled prostitution.

I don't think HUMANS are monogamous by nature. We can force ourselves to be but it's repressive. Obviously since both sexes "cheat."

 

[Styr]

Historically, it has (to my knowledge) always been the elites and upper classes (not to be confused with the "upper class" "celebrities" of today) who have done the polygaming. They could take on and care for their many women, and they had the auctoritas to do so. Granted, the lives of said women were not always most enjoyable, but then again, neither was the life of an average man or woman in general. But in on big regard the women had it better. They could be subimmisve and feminine, and rely on a masculine man who did not cater for the whims of the women. Any weak man, especially a king, would have been killed off pretty quickly.

Even today most feminine women would likely prefer a masculine man who has many girls around, than to be forced to become a masculine woman and take care of a *****.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

If women feel they have 'competition', it can make them jealous and clingy, but in most cases women enjoy their man being desirable, as it also reflects on the woman's ability to snare that desirable man.

 

[Manure Spherian]

You are correct. The question becomes " are men monogamous in nature?". I dont believe they are monogamous. They should not be "cheating". They should be allowed to have multiple wives or concubines that they are legally bounded to. This way they are actually covering a woman and taking care of her.

Ancient cultures used to provide structure to the " cheating" so everyone benefited from it.

As far as control goes, the male sex drive is too strong for most men to control fully. It should be channeled into either multiple wives for controlled prostitution.

Polygamy makes society unstable, and yes, dangerous.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Polygamy makes society unstable, and yes, dangerous.

Only when it evolves into unbridled hedonism.

 

[Fruitbat]

Thoughts:

I have sympathy for famous men as they literally have women following them into toilets trying to satisfy every whim. Power and fame are aphrodisiacs which make women almost pathetically desperate. I experienced this a little bit as a DJ, when I started playing quite big nights the women were absolute. I wasn’t even nationally famous.

Guaranteed if I was today an A list celeb I’d probs have cheated this AM. I am not used to that kind of power.

I do not believe men should or have any special dispensation to cheat. Monogamy is a hallmark of a civilised culture. Any culture which leaves many men dispossessed of their chance of a wife and turns women into concubines for the rich and powerful isn’t going to be as successful - it’s a more primitive outlook.

Cheating is wrong full stop. Because it’s lying. You don’t make commitments ans break them.

if you were an a lister, I would imagine many women would accept one way polygamy to just be with the guy. That’s how pathetically desparate women are for famous and wealthy men. They would probably join in TBH.