So much hate for women on this site :(

[djgirl]

Hey fellas,
I havent posted here in a while but i have recently come back and have been lurking these forums for a bit now and it upsets me to see such a resentment for women

Now before you come crashing down on me, I am a 24 year old bisexual lady so yes i have "lady problems too" and let me assure you its not just you blokes that have trouble us gay/bi girls do too and mostly over the same reasons you guys complain about... However i have also had really sh1t experiences with men too, who promise me the world and charm me just to get me in to bed and then ditch me....these are young guys too about 24-35....So in my eyes, were really just as bad as each other....

The thing that really p1sses me off about guys and especially on here is the amount of disregard you have for females as fellow human beings....Yes i'll be the first to admit my gender has a lot of bad apples that give us good decent girls a bad name BUT not all of us are like that you know....I'm a hardworking Aussie chick, who has morals and is straight edge and has ambitions in life that dont involve sleeping around and being a wh0re but still can have fun and is looking for someone (either gender) that is decent, who wont screw me over....mission impossible to find these days

Sometimes as a girl myself i dont even understand my own gender, and ive been screwed over by more girls then guys but even so i DONT HATE girls or have any disrespect for them. They are still human beings and i am so glad in this day and age we have women rights, otherwise if i had lived back when my grandparents lived and women were nothing but second class citizens id kill myself. Its simple, you get a girl pregnant then man up and take responsibility of your consequence instead of being cry babies over it. We are entitled to just as many rights as men are. And all this bullcrap that females shouldnt be paid more then men is truly stupid. Some women work just as hard as men and should be entitled to the same benefits as what a man would receive.

Women are more then just sex objects, some deserve the **** they get but dont put all us women in the same category because there is some decent ones out there like me who are seeking a good bloke who wont just use her for sex and then move on.... I can sit here and bash how awful men are and all the horrible experiences ive had with them but i wont, i just know i haven't met the right one and all my experiences with them im taking as lessons learned.

Anyway just my 2 cents. Nothing personal against anyone on this board but as someone that often follows the posts on this forum as some advice is beneficial to me to, i just wanted to have my say

 

[perseverance]

You'e going to get misogynists and misandrists on all dating/relationship forums etc. When people go through a series of bad incidents they will naturally become bitter and resentful.

If you go over to Loveshack you will see plenty of bitter and resentful women who are well into their forties and have no marriage or children and whom desperately want companionship but whom continue a life-long trend of picking the wrong men.

I maintain that like attracts like, so if you're continually attracting low quality men or women, it is probably because you are a low quality person or someone who have a low self-esteem and no real sense of self-worth, either way you're low quality.

 

[Asasione]

Where's the TL;DR version?

A wall of text of poor rationalizations seems like wasted effort to read for me, life is passing me by out there

 

[betheman]

Hey fellas,
I havent posted here in a while but i have recently come back and have been lurking these forums for a bit now and it upsets me to see such a resentment for women

oh god here we go again...another one!

 

[Down Low]

You'e going to get misogynists and misandrists on all dating/relationship forums etc. When people go through a series of bad incidents they will naturally become bitter and resentful.

If you go over to Loveshack you will see plenty of bitter and resentful women who are well into their forties and have no marriage or children and whom desperately want companionship but whom continue a life-long trend of picking the wrong men.

I maintain that like attracts like, so if you're continually attracting low quality men or women, it is probably because you are a low quality person or someone who have a low self-esteem and no real sense of self-worth, either way you're low quality.

Uh no. You see, you have it wrong.

You're objectifying. Let me clarify. You're mistaking the subject of a clause with the object. Probably because you make such long sentences with several clauses. "Who" is a subject pronoun and "whom" is an object pronoun. So if you substitute "plenty of bitter and resentful women" into the last clause, you get the subject again: "plenty of bitter and resentful women continue a life-long trend of picking the wrong men." So you see, you should use "who" in that spot.

It doesn't help you (to understand proper usage) that "whom" can't be substituted for the object of the last clause: "the wrong men." In that case, use "whomever" or the awkward "he whom is wrong."

At any rate, the same point can be made of the next-to-last clause: "whom desperately want companionship." Replacing the incorrect pronoun, we get "plenty of bitter and resentful women desperately want companionship." Who desperately wants companionship? Plenty of bitter and resentful women. They want companionship from whom? The wrong men.

It doesn't help you that the object is missing from the next-to-last clause and you have to infer it. But when you insert the object, it becomes clear that the "who" is "plenty of bitter and resentful women" and the "whom" is "the wrong men."

Or you could construct the sentence passively, and say that "the wrong men are desperately wanted for companionship by plenty of bitter and resentful women." There's nothing inherently wrong with passive sentences -- it's just that the subject becomes the object, and vice versa. However -- and this is the most important issue to be considered -- the construction of the sentence should naturally flow from a well-structured and orderly presentation of the material. It's clear from your confusion of subject and object pronouns that the material is presented backwards. You obviously see "the wrong men" -- or getting down to brass tacks -- "men" as the subject. That means "plenty of bitter and resentful women" -- or rather, just plain "women" -- as the object. I think that it would make the material easier to understand if you always make "men" the subject and "women" the object.

I hope everyone finds this thread useful and helpful in improving their understanding of who is the subject and whom is the object. Some people have it just backwards.

 

[( . )( . )]

Hey fellas,
I am a 24 year old bisexual lady

No your not, you've dabbled but prefer the c@ck but to appear "unique" and full of rebellious exotic moxie your "bi".

Hey fellas,
i have also had really sh1t experiences with men too,who promise me the world and charm me just to get me in to bed and then ditch me....

Give them something to stick around for, we don't ditch the ones worth keeping.

I'm a hardworking Aussie chick

Unless your hardworking in the kitchen nobody cares.

Sometimes as a girl myself i dont even understand my own gender

Stick around then. But I don't think you've let everyone know your a gurrrl enough times yet.

in this day and age we have women rights, otherwise if i had lived back when my grandparents lived and women were nothing but second class citizens

Second class citizens you say? Go on.

Its simple, you get a girl pregnant then man up

Textbook "man up" shaming tactic ? Check. It's simple if he hasn't agreed to have a child with you then don't get pregnant, I'm sure you haven't gone full retard yet and can properly administer birth control if you've decided to go on carousel rides.

Some women work just as hard as men

Cool,I heard of a guy who was born with a 3rd testicle.

I can sit here and bash how awful men are

Too late.


Enough of this tomfoolery, I'm going to go wake up the Mrs, give her a kiss and pat myself on the back for weeding through mountainous piles of trash and that I finally found one who's not a djgurrrl. Jesus wept, you future lifetime spinsters are fvcking everywhere now.

 

[marmel75]

I don't think there is hate as much as too many guys who do things unknowingly that are unattractive...

Men and women have different thought processes, so it can take a while to understand and figure these things out...

I just laugh at women these days, I think the sh!t is comical...

 

[BannedGod]

Uh no. You see, you have it wrong.

You're objectifying. Let me clarify. You're mistaking the subject of a clause with the object. Probably because you make such long sentences with several clauses. "Who" is a subject pronoun and "whom" is an object pronoun. So if you substitute "plenty of bitter and resentful women" into the last clause, you get the subject again: "plenty of bitter and resentful women continue a life-long trend of picking the wrong men." So you see, you should use "who" in that spot.

It doesn't help you (to understand proper usage) that "whom" can't be substituted for the object of the last clause: "the wrong men." In that case, use "whomever" or the awkward "he whom is wrong."

At any rate, the same point can be made of the next-to-last clause: "whom desperately want companionship." Replacing the incorrect pronoun, we get "plenty of bitter and resentful women desperately want companionship." Who desperately wants companionship? Plenty of bitter and resentful women. They want companionship from whom? The wrong men.

It doesn't help you that the object is missing from the next-to-last clause and you have to infer it. But when you insert the object, it becomes clear that the "who" is "plenty of bitter and resentful women" and the "whom" is "the wrong men."

Or you could construct the sentence passively, and say that "the wrong men are desperately wanted for companionship by plenty of bitter and resentful women." There's nothing inherently wrong with passive sentences -- it's just that the subject becomes the object, and vice versa. However -- and this is the most important issue to be considered -- the construction of the sentence should naturally flow from a well-structured and orderly presentation of the material. It's clear from your confusion of subject and object pronouns that the material is presented backwards. You obviously see "the wrong men" -- or getting down to brass tacks -- "men" as the subject. That means "plenty of bitter and resentful women" -- or rather, just plain "women" -- as the object. I think that it would make the material easier to understand if you always make "men" the subject and "women" the object.

I hope everyone finds this thread useful and helpful in improving their understanding of who is the subject and whom is the object. Some people have it just backwards.

LOL! Thanks this actually is helpful, I always get confused between the two of them

 

[VladPatton]

No, not hateful, but cautious. Yes both men and women can screw the other sex over, but on this forum we grew a pair and chose a side, the guy's side. If we hated women this site would be about living asexually and called something to the effect of The He-Man Woman Hater's Forum.

You women have the power of sex, the almighty golden snatch of nature, so let us complain and band together on this site so we can at least tell you the ʂhit you wanna hear until you get to like us while learning to abort mission early on so we don't get too invested.

It's not you women would actually give us advice on this subject. Why would they? That would be logically logical.

 

[synergy1]

a passing by observer could glean a lot from this thread - primarily that many of the men on this webpage are definitely bitter. Troll or not, its funny to see how some of the community members actually act ( not say how they act) around women. We preach a lot of good things around here, but anything that might threaten the status quo is violently attacked, much like the oppositions tactics which we abhor greatly.

This forum is a useful outlet, for myself included. I can't pretend that I don't have my problems in the dating world because I do. As a male, there are no real outlets. Most people tell you to suck it up or stop being such a ***** ( ironically everyone is a big *****, but they are too obsessed with pretending). The big problem with women coming on to a forum like this and telling men how it is is as follows ; women can not understand what it is like to be a man. We are held to different standards than females.

Some women work just as hard as men and should be entitled to the same benefits as what a man would receive.

This could be a separate topic all together. If women want the same pay as men, do the same jobs. Getting a degree in womens studies than wanting the same pay as a systems engineer is just silly. Women don't do these fields. They won't earn as much. Take nurses though, they do get the same pay ( if not more in some cases). This is where womens movement needs to understand the reality of the economy - be useful and get paid. Be useless, and get nothing. It happens to men, it happens to women. Pretty equal rights if you ask me.

To the post below mine: I post regularly on other sport related forums, and in the H&F section. Doesn't mean I hate those things. It means I want to get better and broaden my knowledge base. I don't hate women, but want possible avenues to eliminate my frustration in the dating world.

 

[st_99]

This site couldnt exist if people here hated women. Why would they even be here? I hate basket weaving, so you'll never find me on a basket weaving forum. Get it?

 

[ScottMustaine]

oh god here we go again...another one!

Now when you mention it, this is becoming a comedy. :crackup:






I just got question which I never understood about that whole shyte about women-men getting paid.


So if we have a guy who is a computer major and a woman who is also a computer major... Guy get's paid more for the same amount of work ?

Can somebody explain this to me ?

 

[Fatal Jay]

Post pics of yourself or I could careless

 

[foreverAFC]

most women are rude to me simply because i dont look good, so ive learned to view women as trash

 

[incognito42]

Dont fret too much over it djgirl, There's a lot of pathetic men here. Men who have a lifetime of bad experiences with their sexuality and intimacy. So as to not blow their brains out, and to feel like they have some power (they don't) they rationalize all their failures as the woman being the enemy.

There's some threads and topics here that make this painfully obvious, like rape discussion. The majority of this board thinks women NEVER get raped, and thT rape is just a tool women use to keep men down.

As you can see there's deep seeded issues here and you really have to take what you see here with a grain of salt

 

[Asterisk]

So..., where are the chocolate bars at walmart?

 

[incognito42]

There's a lot of good discussion here that help men deal with the craziness of women, some men here are clearly confusing this with what you're referring to djgirl. It's obvious there's healthy discussions that are had as well as unhealthy ones. But it seems all the guys here are gonna band together and call you a doodie face an scare you out of here, rather than address the issue and acknowledge that there ARE both positive/helpful discussions regarding baffling female behavior as well as negative/disturbing discussions influenced by mental/emotional issues of sone men

 

[floydb25]

Where's the TL;DR version?

A wall of text of poor rationalizations seems like wasted effort to read for me, life is passing me by out there

Let me try... "There's a lot of bad people out there, but I'm a special snowflake who's different and better than them. So, hate them, but not me."

Unfortunately, this is what EVERYONE states in these claims - even when they ARE just like all the rest. People always omit themselves from the bad, and agree with the idea that most others are, but you shouldnt hate them all - because there's still good people out there who "arent like that". And of course, by good people they mean themselves. You'll hear all sorts of jerks, *****s, and losers make these claims - as theyre trying desperately to put themselves in a positive light. Thats because theyre biased, delusional, and conceited, and only THINK theyre different.

What the OP doesnt understand is that nobody cares; we've all heard this before. Thats why we always say, actions speak louder than words, and you should never listen to what people claim about themselves. You'll hear nothing but good things - while simultaneously bringing other people down in comparison. Then add in some victim playing, finger pointing, excuses to justify their own ****ty actions, and blah blah.

Nothing new. Its all here. She's even indirectly bringing US down for having these viewpoints - because she's had bad experiences, but doesnt hate women. Unlike us. Dont you see? She's better than everybody else. Just like every other female who makes these kind of posts - everywhere. "I agree completely! But I'm not like that!"

To summarize: "I'm not like most women." = Most women.

 

[Daily Insanity]

Were women nice when I was overweight and simply wanted friends?
NO, they avoided me like I was diseased.

Were women nice when I went up to them and asked a simple question?
No they looked at me and laughed with their friends.

Were women reliable when I setup a date?
No, they flaked.

Were women understanding when they played their shlt tests?
No, they got caught doing so, and try to pin it on the guy.

Were women respectful when it came down to understanding each others differences?
No, if you never loved their favorite team or something, you weren't a match for them.

Were women understanding even if you weren't a model looking guy you still had a lot to give?
No, they are looking for a perfect match that donesn't exit or ever will. (media s fault)


What happened to being fellow human beings?

Ever since I understood more and these guys here helped me, I never had these issues above.

 

[betheman]

it sometimes appears that there is as much, if not more, fellow man hating/shaming than woman hating