So many man-bashing commercials

[Señor Fingers]

It's time for men to organize and set up a Men's Liberation Movement. We are slowly but surely being devoured as a gender. The Laws, Society and the Collective Psyche are all against men. We were given enough rope to hang ourselves.................. and we are.

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Both genders are being devoured. Men are encouraged to be women and vice versa. We need a Gender Liberation Movement so people can just be who they are without any pressure or propaganda.

 

[MikeYikes122]

I agree with penkitten and Fingers. There are some obvious signs of Hollywood devaluing males in television. The two shows that come to my mind are Home Improvement and Everybody Loves Raymond. The father figure in both those shows is the stereotypical male who is lovable but emotionally skewed and constantly needing the help of his wife. The two males in the show are portrayed as dumb dolts who are lucky to have ended up with their wives, who are wiser and emotionally superior.

There are some other examples in movies and other television shows, but I don't think commercials are furthering any sort of a matrix that is creating an uneven playing field for men and women. If anything, women are exploited more in commercials with ads like the Axe body spray ones and the beer commercials.

I agree that there is a matrix, but I don't think it is so expanding that it's affecting commercials. If you're straining to find signs of the matrix in things like commercials, you're going to end up like Pook, angrily blogging from the depths of your parents' basement.

 

[ketostix]

I don't watch much TV, but when I do, one can't escape the man-bashing. There's so much of it, men have been numbed.

Hotels.com just had one where a family got a bad hotel near a freeway instead of on the ocean front. Whose fault was it? According to the b-tch (his wife), of course it was the man's.

I'm so numb now it took me about the third time I saw this to hit me ... don't worry, I fired off an angry e-mail. It won't do much good, but I'm tired of this sh-t.

If you pay attention to not just TV, but other forms of media and how men are treated in public, you'd be astounded at this vendetta to bring down men. There was another interesting story at my work yesterday, total double standard but I'll get to that later.

Or how about the I think it's H&R Block commercial. The guy is stumped on his taxes and his wife belittles him for not using real tax preparer people. Or the trojan commercial where the male is a pig? I don't know if anyone mentioned these but it just a fimilar plotline, the guys stupid and the woman is smarter.

 

[ketostix]

This is not an agenda against men.

It's smart marketing.

Corporations know who the big spenders really are in their target markets, so of course they are going to cater to them and kiss their asses. Women are frustrated with men nowadays.. most of us have become bumbling idiots with no backbone. The commercial sympathizes with them cause Big Money knows who wears the wallet..

Well the real reason why it's smart marketing is because men accept being ridiculed whereas women will not.

 

[ketostix]

My concern is that this agenda is not so much payback as it is an attempt to psychologically subdue men by making them ashamed of their masculinity. Even in the 1950's & 60's, show's like 'Father Knows Best', 'My Wife, I Think I'll Keep Her', 'Leave it to Beever' or 'My Three Sons' the female character was never ridiculed for her femininity. They weren't 'poisoned' by their estrogen into being idiots. If anything she was respected as a nurturing buffer for the younger male characters recklessness while the Father was judicious and wise. Even in 'All in the Family' or 'I Love Lucy' you could still respect Archie Bunker and Lucielle Ball, not so today.

Today it's blatant and malicious. The most common theme is the idiot husband needing the feminine intuition of his spouse or female partner to solve his uniquely male derived problems. The silly stupid men in these commercials attempting to emulate cats don't even rate as animals, making one wonder if a similar commercial were made casting a woman in the role of a dog and still not making the cut would be as widely accepted as an effective marketing tool.

Rep points. RT I think you're spot on. Even in the days men had more advantages than they do today, men/society was never malicious towards women. You can't say that for women/society of today.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Both genders are being devoured. Men are encouraged to be women and vice versa. We need a Gender Liberation Movement so people can just be who they are without any pressure or propaganda.

Survival of the fittest. The lemmings will follow the media's lead off a cliff and the rest of us.... I guess we'll just sit back, watch their demise and laugh; there's nothing on television anyway.

 

[Last Man Standing]

This is not an agenda against men.

It's smart marketing...

A marketing of deceit!!

There is an agenda!! This is their intent!!!

Obsidian made a beautiful statement about this..

You are severely discounting the the feminist problem and overall threat of the matriarchy. And no, feminism is not the only thing weakening our lives. But considered how entrenched the feminist mindset is into society (especially the female population), the problems of 50+% divorce rates, broken homes, and men who are too timid to care for themselves will continue to plague us. Overall, a society with feminine men will also tend to lean toward socialism and perhaps even authoritarianism, as men refuse to take responsibility for their own lives. It's depressing. And you shouldn't make light of it.

Yes, I agree that women as victims of the matrix as well. Pook clearly illustrated that in his "Feminism on Trial" post. The rants you read on this forum aren't saying that all women are evil and all men are good. They're saying that society has been corrupted as a whole, such that it's difficult to form real relationships anymore.

Innocence has been corrupted - and the male, as the leader of the family and society,, has been made mentally impotent, by brainwashing them through the mass media, to protect his fold!! The fall is imminent!!!

 

[seth]

LMS, I think you mean imminent.

 

[Trader]

Three years have passed by since you posted this thread, and, amazingly, TV ads portray MORE man-bashing than ever...i.e. the irritating UG wife admonishing her son and husband for wasting "crucial" rollever minutes...she talks to them like they're idiots...

The reason there's so much manbashing on these TV commericals? SIMPLE: Women make the purchasing decisions.

The networks are gonna cater directly to whomever has purchasing power.

This is why you DIDN'T see manbashing in TV ads back in the 60's, 70's, and even the 80's. You remember those types of commercials, right? When men were portrayed as having a set of BALLS?

It really amazes me how a MAN will sit in front of his TV set for several hours a night and laugh at commericials that consistently degrade him...oh, and by the way, you notice how it's rarely a black or hispanic guy/child being degraded?For that would be way too politically incorrect. It's always the white guy who's made to look like a lazy hillbilly a$$...

I think it'd be really interesting to direct a series of my own commercials which depict white men degrading their women and children...I'd LOVE to see women and minorities react to THAT...i.e. what would women think of a white husband yelling at his blond-haired daughter and blue-eyed wife for wasting crucial rollever minutes? LOL...OMFG...the networks would ban my commercial the first time it aired!

Yes - I remember that AT&T commercial regarding the rollover minutes and I noticed how the wife clearly was the dominant one.

I have an even better example, forget commercials for a sec since those are staged, take the show SportsNation on ESPN. And pay attention to the interaction between the girl host (Michelle Beadle) and the guy host Colin Cowherd. It's subtle sometimes but clearly Michelle owns the frame and she even put Colin down pretty badly and Colin just sits there trying to force a smile while his balls are being cut off.

I have lived in China and Taiwan before and I noticed that in all their TV shows, when they have multiple hosts, it is always the guy host who controls the frame.

 

[Zunder]

Bring back the Fonz.

 

[Cure]

It can work both ways.

Over here we had an ad for a weekly (thursdays) mens magazine a few years back, which featured women trying to do DIY and totally messing it up because a man wasnt around to help out.

The line was "Women.. dont expect any help on a thursday.."

Pretty funny. Advertising is highly damaging to society in general, its not a particular group or gender that suffers, its the entire social system.

Cure.

 

[brokenupinside]

One commercial that makes me cringe is the one for some cereal....he is reading the box to his friend,saying that it has low calories,no sugar whatever and the wifey comes to the room and says...."what else does the box say David" and he goes "it says shut up Dave...." obviously implying something about her weight.


And if you think that making men into manginas is new just watch some reruns of Bewitched and see Darren (or whhatever his name was) in action.

 

[dark god]

One commercial that makes me cringe is the one for some cereal....he is reading the box to his friend,saying that it has low calories,no sugar whatever and the wifey comes to the room and says...."what else does the box say David" and he goes "it says shut up Dave...." obviously implying something about her weight.


And if you think that making men into manginas is new just watch some reruns of Bewitched and see Darren (or whhatever his name was) in action.

man darren was a whipping boy in a half. I totally forgot about that.