So I started observing this really ugly girl..

[Who Dares Win]

I was at the club looking for a one night stand as usual and while looking around for girls to approach I noticed this girl...I actually noticed her because she was really ugly, ugly in a creative way because she looked like a picasso's work.

You just like when there is a car accident on the streets and people slow down to look at it I felt the need to look at her, I swear even with make-up on her face and alchool in my body I couldnt give her more than a 3.

But thats not the point, the point is that she had guys hitting on her and not other 3s which simply dont exists in clubs in the male gender since they have the decency to know their limits.

The guys hitting on her were easily on the 5-7 range and even more surprising was that she was showing toward them the same behaviour of average and hot girls...at some point a guy toke her to the sofa and observing their body language he was completely facing her with his chest and keeping eye during the talk while she was sitting normally with her chest facing the dance floor and her eyes starting the divisory glass.

This fact really scared me to death, I tought the worse was seeing hot guys mistreated from girls in the classical "girls night now" but I start to consider that there is something epidemic...it really seems that most girl repeating ad infinitum that they dont need a man really starts to believe it.

It seems like they just need attention and validation not be satisfied but to be complete, if tall blonde muscular guys, well dressed and suave get MISTREATED what the hell we are supposed to do?

Maybe its just me paranoid but year after years I find the situation more hostile than the previous one, and trust me Im no noob I've been picking one night stands frequently but yet I wonder hows gonna be.

Please somebody tell me I'm wrong :nervous:

 

[ckdon]

Girls egos going up
Men's standards going down

is how I see it.

 

[Leopold]

I'm afraid its true.

Just yesterday at work I was talking with one of my fellow co workers when a customer stepped in need for help. Due to the changes in my personality and improvement I was very flirty/teasing while assisting her.

However, she was no where near attractive for me at all. She was a huge whale with a kid (single mom probably?).

Ten minutes later the same co worker in company of another associate asked me if I asked for the girl's number. I was like... "what girl?" ( I guess I'm a jerk but I didn't had an idea of what he was talking about).

For some reason I couldn't make the transition that the morbidly obese woman = a girl. Once I realized what he was saying I replied with shock "... why would I want to ask for her number?"

I have seen this happen many times. Many guys are so dam desperate they lower their standards to the pitfalls of hell. It really hurts me to see this; and these guys are on their early 20s.

They do not give themselves self value to do much better. I'm thinking this is why today many girls let themselves go to those extreme, CAUSE WE MALES are ALLOWING IT.

I do try to educate and direct my fellow men when I see them into situations like this. Most of them are receptive to what I tell them afterwards and some are just straight up feminist/manginas/afcs to the core and I just have to let those be as that.

 

[NobodyCares1]

I agree completely, lately I've been noticing this stuff too. I have a hot close female friend and from what I observed and what she told me, I just would like to go and kick some guys in the balls so they man up. Seriously, one guy was just like pushing her when she was a bit drunk so she would move a little faster and already two of her orbiters said that they are jelaous of the guy! Seriously I used to be a huge AFC, but this is just too freaking much. And guess what, she hates one of the guys and ridiculed the other in front of me, yet she acts nice to them when she is with them. There are more stories but this is a bit off topic.

The important stuff I'd like to say was about other one of my now ex-close female friend, who had a crush on me. She was maybe about 3,5 (though great personality) but when I was talking with her about her experience with guys, she named at least three who had crush on her but she didn't want them because they were chumps. And then said that she had a bit of a romance with a guy who won some competition on his school for the hottest guy there, so a hot guy was with a 3,5. Basically she said that every guy she had something with was good looking. So if a 3,5 can get 7+ guy, what would it take for a guy to get a 7+ girl. Though she is very young (16) and the guys were too (17-18) so they might not realised their value yet but still the stuff that some guys are willing to do for a puzzy is unbelievable. I'm glad I'm not an AFC anymore.

 

[Burroughs]

I've said it a thousand times and I''ll say it again.

write this down

There is a 3-5 point hb interest differentiation between what women expect for themselves and what they are.:crazy:

ie the hb 3 chick expected to get a hb 8 guy...so the hb 6 guys hitting on her she deemed not up to her standards...

 

[DonGorgon]

here is the problem... for every 1 female out and willing to have sex.. there are 20 men out looking for sex.. so females have more options and the tend to value men less than men value them so men have to settke fro fatties and uglies or go without

 

[NobodyCares1]

This is why game is important, because there are 20 chumps that will approach her probably with the same bullsh!t, but if you approach her with a great game she will be blown away.

 

[Who Dares Win]

The problem is not only that the aim much higher than what they value but that most of the time they have their necessities fullfilled from attention only.

As men we are satisfied when the deal is closed, we need the physical gratification and the sure confirmation through action while all they need is basically a guy approaching them and be able to throw him away as a used tissue.

A girl can be perfectly satisfied from 50 likes she got on her new facebook avatar and have her morning done from that only, the reason being that 90% of the men putting a like are telling her that they would do her (and her hamster powered brain equals them willing to fvck her as them willing to have a relationship with her).

A hot guy which try to pick up hotties and fails so he gives a try out of boredom on an average one doesnt realize that she can easily reject him yet consider him among the scored ones and from that being ego boosted and entitled even more.

We mark as conquest the girls we put our d1ck inside, they consider as conquest the guys who show interest in them, no matter if those guys were just killing time or try to hit on everything in sight.

 

[Burroughs]

The problem is not only that the aim much higher than what they value but that most of the time they have their necessities fullfilled from attention only.

As men we are satisfied when the deal is closed, we need the physical gratification and the sure confirmation through action while all they need is basically a guy approaching them and be able to throw him away as a used tissue.

A girl can be perfectly satisfied from 50 likes she got on her new facebook avatar and have her morning done from that only, the reason being that 90% of the men putting a like are telling her that they would do her (and her hamster powered brain equals them willing to fvck her as them willing to have a relationship with her).

A hot guy which try to pick up hotties and fails so he gives a try out of boredom on an average one doesnt realize that she can easily reject him yet consider him among the scored ones and from that being ego boosted and entitled even more.

We mark as conquest the girls we put our d1ck inside, they consider as conquest the guys who show interest in them, no matter if those guys were just killing time or try to hit on everything in sight.

Yes this happens until she slams against the wall at age 30...then she starts crying waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa why am I not married waaaaaaa

then the hamster starts blaming dudes in reverse for not 'manning up' :crazy:

biyach don't blame men because you were deluded enough to think 'likes' meant you were in a relationship stupid delusional cvnts :crackup:

 

[Greasy Pig]

I think many ugly girls - such as the one in the club - are fully aware of their unfortunate looks and just assume guys only talk to her because they want an easy lay.
So, female entitlement aside, she may have been rejecting these guys because she knew the only reason they were hitting on her was because she had a vagina, not because they were passionately interested in her.

 

[Chamber36]

I think many ugly girls - such as the one in the club - are fully aware of their unfortunate looks and just assume guys only talk to her because they want an easy lay.
So, female entitlement aside, she may have been rejecting these guys because she knew the only reason they were hitting on her was because she had a vagina, not because they were passionately interested in her.

I think you may be right.

This would imply that to get a ONS with this girl would mean approaching indirectly.

Game is really the most important thing.

 

[EvilAgenda]

I've said it a thousand times and I''ll say it again.

write this down

There is a 3-5 point hb interest differentiation between what women expect for themselves and what they are.:crazy:

ie the hb 3 chick expected to get a hb 8 guy...so the hb 6 guys hitting on her she deemed not up to her standards...

So just know that you are a 10, and that you can get any babe.

I noticed this too, and I'll say that it is very dependent on the situation & setting. An hb3 can think the world of herself at a club or a pizza eating contest, and will consider herself an hb8.

An hb9 out of her comfort zone, for example while learning how to ride a motorcycle from you, can drop down to a 3.

 

[Professor Booty]

"Ugly" women are Ok, as long as they are fit and reasonably intelligent. Let them wear their big noses with pride and act sexy, it's believable to a certain extent. What I can't stand is moderately cute fatties that think they're special just because they have a normal-looking face but otherwise take no pride in their appearance. Fat, badly dressed, of mediocre intellect yet obnoxious, they get by on the fact that they're cute enough that a hot guy would want a one-night stand with them but they have delusions that they can actually pin one down for an LTR so they're bitter about and that colours all their perceptions of men. I just try to avoid those types altogether, frankly.

 

[NobodyCares1]

"Ugly" women are Ok, as long as they are fit and reasonably intelligent. Let them wear their big noses with pride and act sexy, it's believable to a certain extent. What I can't stand is moderately cute fatties that think they're special just because they have a normal-looking face but otherwise take no pride in their appearance. Fat, badly dressed, of mediocre intellect yet obnoxious, they get by on the fact that they're cute enough that a hot guy would want a one-night stand with them but they have delusions that they can actually pin one down for an LTR so they're bitter about and that colours all their perceptions of men. I just try to avoid those types altogether, frankly.

You know the sad truth? They actually could pin one down for an LTR.

 

[Scars]

Another reason why I think the bar scene is a joke. It's like walking into a casino with the house edge stacked heavily against you. Women already have an advantage because of society, throw them into a local bar and that advantage triples. When I was younger I thought clubs were pretty cool, but I'm quickly losing interest in it. Not worth the amount of time and effort to bring home a girl that is completely trash.

-Scars

 

[Chamber36]

"Ugly" women are Ok, as long as they are fit and reasonably intelligent. Let them wear their big noses with pride and act sexy, it's believable to a certain extent. What I can't stand is moderately cute fatties that think they're special just because they have a normal-looking face but otherwise take no pride in their appearance. Fat, badly dressed, of mediocre intellect yet obnoxious, they get by on the fact that they're cute enough that a hot guy would want a one-night stand with them but they have delusions that they can actually pin one down for an LTR so they're bitter about and that colours all their perceptions of men. I just try to avoid those types altogether, frankly.

What if they have great personalities, and they'd be at least HB8 if they were thin, but they put on weight and went down to Hb6?

I've got one of those wrapped around my finger, I noticed it last weekend. Haven't actually talked to her in a while so I dunno about the personality part, she was a bit awkward. Nevertheless I could pin her down, but she is a bit pudgy.

I like her, but I wouldn't stick with her for over one night, sadly. I feel I deserve better.

 

[JohnChops]

So I was also at the club a couple weeks back and saw this ugly girl reject a decent looking dude. I was like hmmm, curiosity killed me and I went up and said "So what are you keeping a tally of how many guys you rejected tonight?" And her and all of her friends (group of 3) said yes. I was like ...... what the fvck is wrong with these low class women.

Her and her friends were all maybe like an HB3-5 if that. I was shocked to say the least. They were ugly, fat, etc just plain gross. I laughed and walked away .

I think these women are getting a little to insane and us men arent putting our feet down on it like we should be doing. If women act this way you do not supplicate you IGNORE and FORGET them. Jesus just writing this is pissing me off. The amount of sh1t that these ugly girls think they can get by being A. trying to be hard to get B. Being slutty or C. All of the above, is just making me cringe when I go out now.

What happened to our world ?

 

[The Gambler]

So I was also at the club a couple weeks back and saw this ugly girl reject a decent looking dude. I was like hmmm, curiosity killed me and I went up and said "So what are you keeping a tally of how many guys you rejected tonight?" And her and all of her friends (group of 3) said yes. I was like ...... what the fvck is wrong with these low class women.

Her and her friends were all maybe like an HB3-5 if that. I was shocked to say the least. They were ugly, fat, etc just plain gross. I laughed and walked away .

I think these women are getting a little to insane and us men arent putting our feet down on it like we should be doing. If women act this way you do not supplicate you IGNORE and FORGET them. Jesus just writing this is pissing me off. The amount of sh1t that these ugly girls think they can get by being A. trying to be hard to get B. Being slutty or C. All of the above, is just making me cringe when I go out now.

What happened to our world ?

Let these women have their fun. One out of five might get lucky and actually wind up in a meaningful relationship. The reality is that these gals are living in an emotional facade.... In their defense, I'm sure they already know most of these guys are just looking for an easy lay. But hey, they have to be at the club for some reason, and I'm sure they're sitting around waiting for the holy grail to fall in their laps (A guy who is a 10, wealthy, and somehow famous). Well ladies, good luck with that. Here's another king-size bag of Oreos to keep you company while you wait.

 

[Professor Booty]

What if they have great personalities, and they'd be at least HB8 if they were thin, but they put on weight and went down to Hb6?

I've got one of those wrapped around my finger, I noticed it last weekend. Haven't actually talked to her in a while so I dunno about the personality part, she was a bit awkward. Nevertheless I could pin her down, but she is a bit pudgy.

I like her, but I wouldn't stick with her for over one night, sadly. I feel I deserve better.

I wonder, does anyone here have any experience dating an overweight woman who became thin during the relationship? If so, how did it affect the relationship? Did you contribute it any way to the weight loss? Did you start dating her with the hope that she would lose weight later or was it just a bonus? Could be a topic for a separate thread...

 

[Pardner]

LOL I see ugly even fat chicks get hit on and they eat it up with a spoon. What is worse is that they think they are beautiful and can land any guy they want. They get this way because the ugly, fat, AFC guys hit on them and that boosts their ego and confidence. Then they go out and act like sluts or how a 9 would act and they get good looking guys sometimes because they have confidence. Remember confidence is sexy and will work wonders. Only chicks can pull this off the fat or ugly guy looks like a clown or joker of he tries. this is what the world has come to.