Small talk --> big talk --> sex.

Joined
May 25, 2017
Messages
4,847
Reaction score
861
Location
Florida, USA
I was talking to a girl I met on SA. She said she used to be a bartender and hooked up with customers many times. She was telling me to start with small talk, then go to "big talk", then go for the kill.

I really need to work on just being able to have normal conversations and be seen as socially normal if I really care that much.

But also, small talk is boring and everyone knows that.
 

Mike32ct

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 22, 2007
Messages
8,105
Reaction score
4,715
Location
Eastern Time Zone where it's always really late
I don’t enjoy small talk all that much either, unless it’s with a good friend or family.

But I think that small talk is a “necessary evil.” Small talk makes extroverts more comfortable. They hate silence and dead spots in the conversation. Since extroverts are probably in the majority, as an introvert, I still need to be able to connect with them.

So yes, your bartender friend is correct that it begins with small talk.

I’m not sure what she meant by “big talk.” I assume she meant a deeper, more substantive discussion.

As a side note, I’ve observed plenty of ONS pickups in the past where the couple NEVER left the small talk stage. They just had a very dry mundane conversation and left together. If the physical attraction is there, the guy doesn’t have to be interesting at all. He can talk about anything.
 
Last edited:

Atom Smasher

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 22, 2008
Messages
8,715
Reaction score
6,654
Age
67
Location
The 7th Dimension
Richard, the problem is that you are a narcissist, and I'm not saying this to insult you. Your behavior and attitudes toward others show this. You have trouble caring for other people, and see women not as humans but rather as things to be manipulated.

There's hope for you but you really should see a counselor. You have the opportunity to nip it in the bud now, while you have a few bucks and you are relatively young. You really need to handle this in order to start to relate to women in a way that won't scare them off. You're telegraphing your inner thoughts about them, and women are very good at picking up on this.

If you don't have some degree of caring toward people you're dealing with, they will pick up on it, women mostly but men, too. If you decide to see a counselor, and I hope you do because I want to see you rise above these challenges, go to a male. A female counselor will screw you up royally.
 

marmel75

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 4, 2012
Messages
7,231
Reaction score
5,636
This can be summed up in "proper escalation." This should not be a news flash to anyone.
 
Joined
May 25, 2017
Messages
4,847
Reaction score
861
Location
Florida, USA
I don’t enjoy small talk all that much either, unless it’s with a good friend or family.

But I think that small talk is a “necessary evil.” Small talk makes extroverts more comfortable. They hate silence and dead spots in the conversation. Since extroverts are probably in the majority, as an introvert, I still need to be able to connect with them.

So yes, your bartender friend is correct that it begins with small talk.

I’m not sure what she meant by “big talk.” I assume she meant a deeper, more substantive discussion.

As a side note, I’ve observed plenty of ONS pickups in the past where the couple NEVER left the small talk stage. They just had a very dry mundane conversation and left together. If the physical attraction is there, the guy doesn’t have to be interesting at all. He can talk about anything.
So what is proper small talk?

Idk what she meant by "big talk" either, I asked her a few hours ago, but didn't hear back yet.
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

doctor1996

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Oct 30, 2017
Messages
317
Reaction score
47
Age
28
Richard, the problem is that you are a narcissist, and I'm not saying this to insult you. Your behavior and attitudes toward others show this. You have trouble caring for other people, and see women not as humans but rather as things to be manipulated.

There's hope for you but you really should see a counselor. You have the opportunity to nip it in the bud now, while you have a few bucks and you are relatively young. You really need to handle this in order to start to relate to women in a way that won't scare them off. You're telegraphing your inner thoughts about them, and women are very good at picking up on this.

If you don't have some degree of caring toward people you're dealing with, they will pick up on it, women mostly but men, too. If you decide to see a counselor, and I hope you do because I want to see you rise above these challenges, go to a male. A female counselor will screw you up royally.
He's making progress and I commend him
 

Bible_Belt

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 27, 2005
Messages
17,104
Reaction score
5,735
Age
48
Location
midwestern cow field 40
There's hope for you but you really should see a counselor. You have the opportunity to nip it in the bud now, while you have a few bucks and you are relatively young. You really need to handle this in order to start to relate to women in a way that won't scare them off. You're telegraphing your inner thoughts about them, and women are very good at picking up on this.

If you don't have some degree of caring toward people you're dealing with, they will pick up on it, women mostly but men, too. .
I've been telling him the same things for quite a while. Good call that he is a narcissist. I did not quite get it at first, but I agree now that you said it.

And Richard, before you feel insulted, keep in mind that male narcissists tend to be disproportionately successful in life, at least financially. So it is an advantage in some respects, but a disadvantage in regard to your personal relationships. That's where therapy can help you. A counselor can help you see when the disorder is influencing your thoughts.
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

TheGambino

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 25, 2013
Messages
2,704
Reaction score
932
Location
Somewhere
Thefa8cks you talking about Richard, what a crappy thread again -.-'.
 
Top