sleeping around, around 30 and lies

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Every man wants a slut. He just wants her to be his slut.



ANDREW DICE CLAY: Hey, is that your chick there?

GUY IN THE AUDIENCE: Yeah!

DICE: Damn, she's pretty hot!

GUY: Yeah,..

DICE: You been together a while?

GUY: 2 years

DICE: Nice. She faithful to you?

GUY: Oh yeah.

DICE: She good in bed?

GUY: *nods head enthusiastically*

DICE: She suck a good d!ck?

GUY: (laughing) Oooh yeah,..

DICE: I suppose the next question would be, "How do you suppose she got that way?"
Haha....now that's a blast from the past!

Isn't it funny how comedians tend to be able to see beyond the matrix? Chris Rock is a fukkin GENIUS when it comes to this stuff.

"How do you suppose she got that way"? Classic.
 

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azanon said:
It's not your business what a girl does with other guys unless you're in a serious, committed relationship with her.
Nails as RT would say.

My question to you though is about her lies. Did you ask her about it, if not, then I don't see how she is lying to you. More importantly, why the hell are you asking her? It comes across as needy & insecure.

More importantly though as azanon said later, its relevant because she's going to lie but you should be judging by her character. If you can't tell a hor from a housewife than you have bigger problems in life. I can always tell whether a girl is slvtty or not. I'm not saying even if you have a ONS that she's a hor, but from your interactions with her after that, you can tell if she's worthy of an LTR or not.

You look at everything else in her life, how she does this, how she reacts to that, you look at her background, her family, the way she carries herself.


However I don't think that is your biggest problem. You need to focus on yourself. I do have a question for you, are you actually talking about a certain women here or are you just hypothesizing? The reason I ask is that all your questions seem vague and not specific.
 

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you guys are still talking about her history. what about what she is doing presently? would that bother you? refer to the op
 

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SOSILKY, how old are you? How old is she?
 

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when your in your upper 20s or 30s and not married, men or women seem to sleep around allot or occasionaly whatever. Even the younger generations are buying into this. Its only natural we're adults we need sex and we're not married. only for some reason when a girl lies to me or leaves details out about being with other guys it bothers me. Usually they do this to keep from being judged by society, or see it as private or want to spare someones feelings. I still say do whatever you want Just don't lie to me about it. Is this something I shouldn't care about? For some reason I just don't like being lied too or left in the dark. Some guys don't realy care. but I don't understand the philosophy behind that. I see it as she is insulting my intelligence and or she takes me for a fool. Is there a differnt point of view I should have? as a matter of fact a friend of mine said to me the other day: dude I'm dating this girl and she is so cool because she is no drama. And I said why is she not drama? he said because she doesn't ask what I do and believes whatever I tell her. Is that what a non dramatic person is? I thought that was a dumb person. And I've even had a girl insinuate I'm drama because I call her out on lies or sense somethings off or catch her doing stuff. No beotch! I'm just not stupid. Am I in the Twighlight Zone? Please respond.
Let me answer you from MY perspective.

If I am in a committed relationship, it goes without saying...it is EXPECTED we are ONLY with each other.

If I am with a Friend With Benefits or having casual sex with a woman...yes, I will ask her if she is seeing other people, etc. If you talk to woman in a non-judgemental way...they will tell you. Especially if you (the man) is ALSO sleeping around.

Why would I ask? In my case, because

1- I want to make sure I don't have to face some idiot (jealous man that is also having sex with her)

2- For health reasons.


The women I have had as Friend With Benefits have told me. Some were even married. People will be surprised how honest many women are if you ask them the right questions. Some might not even tell you directly...but instead covertly if you ask in similar fashion. It is about getting them to trust you.

Having said that...it is NOT my business who they sleep with. My only business is getting enough information to see if I should sleep with them.
 

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Latinoman said:
Why would I ask? In my case, because

2- For health reasons.
Can you explain to me how this makes a difference? Are you saying that if your in a FB relationship with a women and she isn't sleeping with anybody, that you'll sleep with her WITHOUT a condom?

Personally I don't see how it makes a difference for health reasons.
 

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MacAvoy said:
Can you explain to me how this makes a difference? Are you saying that if your in a FB relationship with a women and she isn't sleeping with anybody, that you'll sleep with her WITHOUT a condom?

Personally I don't see how it makes a difference for health reasons.

I think Mcavoy is saying he sleeps with girls with condoms regardless. this is still not enough for me though as herpes, warts and other risks are involved with or with out a condom. another reason why i'd like to know what she is up to. which reminds me why is asking her this questions linked to insecurity? people have said that a couple times and it sounds ridiculous. yet i know some girls see it that way. either that or its a defense mechanism. just would like an explanation.
 

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SOSILKY, how old are you? How old is she?

I wasn't realy asking about anybody in particular why is age relevent? we are both upper twentys
 

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azanon said:
...Just make your best guess by her character.
I agree but I also believe that a lot of guys would be safer by making sure that they always wear a raincoat.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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sosilky said:
Rollo Tomassi said:
SOSILKY, how old are you? How old is she?

I wasn't realy asking about anybody in particular why is age relevent? we are both upper twentys
FYI Silky likes to make up 10 threads a day asking hypothetical questions about hypothetical people.
 

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MacAvoy said:
FYI Silky likes to make up 10 threads a day asking hypothetical questions about hypothetical people.
I just figure some of this stuff can be applied in more then one situation...moving along
 

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I wasn't realy asking about anybody in particular why is age relevent?
Well, in my opinion, I see the relevance as follows-

If it's a girl that you've been seeing for a while, and you have something-or want to have something-that goes beyond casual, then you have a right to ask and be candid with her about this.

However, if it's someone you just started dating, I won't even get sucked into a debate about whether it's your business or not-but I will say it's unlikely you'll get an honest answer from her if she is seeing or sleeping with other people.

As someone else said, I think it's just a simple matte of accepting the risks, like anything else in life. Your options are that you could wait to sleep with her and try to assess her lifestyle (i.e. not sleep around), or you can just do it, use protection, and hope for the best (which is what most of us do).

That's the reality of it, all moral inquiries aside.
 

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MacAvoy said:
Can you explain to me how this makes a difference? Are you saying that if your in a FB relationship with a women and she isn't sleeping with anybody, that you'll sleep with her WITHOUT a condom?

Personally I don't see how it makes a difference for health reasons.
Condoms?

That's why I am very selective. That's another reason I prefer relationships over the sleeping around.

Condom or not...you will get most of the same venerial diseases if you are not selective. In fact, condoms kind of give men a FALSE sense of security.
 

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Latinoman said:
That's why I am very selective. That's another reason I prefer relationships over the sleeping around.

In fact, condoms kind of give men a FALSE sense of security.
I understand where your coming from and I don't want to hijack the thread.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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MacAvoy said:
Can you explain to me how this makes a difference? Are you saying that if your in a FB relationship with a women and she isn't sleeping with anybody, that you'll sleep with her WITHOUT a condom?

Personally I don't see how it makes a difference for health reasons.
It always cracks me up to hear how different guys determine whether or not a woman is "safe".

Bottom line is that she could have only had sex with one person and she could STILL have something.

Have fun and stop trying to guess who is "clean" or not. Stay away from the the ghetto crack wh0re pu$$y and you don't have that much to worry about.
 

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Still nobody has explained to me why asking a girl if she is seeing other guys or what not is a sign of insecurity. why would a girl see it that way?
 

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STR8UP said:
Bottom line is that she could have only had sex with one person and she could STILL have something.
I agree with you, if you thought about my post history, I'm sure you'd realize I'm not one of those guys. However generalizations are real and happen for a reason. Its about percentages.

Sure that one girl who slept with one guy can get a disease, but the fact is if you stay away from the ghetto crack hor's & the bar superslvt, chances are your going to be ok. (just as you said later in your post).

The point I was tryin to make to Latino was that to the average bear, it shouldn't matter matter if she's slept with 10 guys or was a virgin before you, if your only FB's with her, you should be wearing a condom.

And not so much for the disease factor but are you really willing to trust your financial future to a person that your not even in a committed relationship to? Because thats a lot of trust to put on a person for them to take a little pill every day.
 

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It always cracks me up to hear how different guys determine whether or not a woman is "safe".

Bottom line is that she could have only had sex with one person and she could STILL have something.
The issue here is that I have very rarely wore a condom in the last 20 years or so. And I have been with quite a bit of women. And to this day, I have not gotten ANY sickness. Do you know why? Because I play the statistics and I go with the ones with LESS risk. Here is another reason...because condoms don't stop you from getting herpes, and other nasty VDs. And also, because there is certain population that has considerably less risk than others.

It comes with experience and having a level of self respect when choosing women. It also comes with having the ability to have OPTIONS as a man with options can disqualify women freely.

Have fun and stop trying to guess who is "clean" or not.
Very bad advice. And the type of advice a man that does not have options or is desperate for puzzy would give. Irresponsible advice too.

Stay away from the the ghetto crack wh0re pu$$y and you don't have that much to worry about.
What about the "hot" woman that sleeps with the GHETTO man? Which now a days include educated women the type that are doing that too. That's why I ask questions that allow me to have a clear understanding of the kind of man she has been involved with.
 

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MacAvoy said:
but are you really willing to trust your financial future to a person that your not even in a committed relationship to? Because thats a lot of trust to put on a person for them to take a little pill every day.
I agree... that has always been my concern.
 
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