What I find interesting is that some people (Oleo) posting information that has nothing to do with this thread. Indeed, the question whether or not skinnyguy.net is legit or not doesn't come up, we are all wrong anyway (hahaha) and we must listen to *x* person's wisdom(!).
Even funnier is that our results are actually fiction. We have not been gaining muscle, no, we have actually just been getting fat. Not only are we so stupid that we can't tell the difference from muscle and fat, we have been been decieving ourselves which we now can realize by *x* person's observation. This is too funny not to be commented on. "I have gained X amount of muscle" "No, you have been decieving yourself. It is all fat!" Then how can I lift heavier and heavier weights? Does fat has some super power on its own? Do the lipids join and create little bursts of power?
Anthony Ellis just did his research (and did a very good job of it) of what worked and what didn't. I imagined he stayed skinny because, even though he had been working out, his body was starving for nutrition to build up the body. So when he started the Body for Life program, his body was already converted to the type II fibers. I don't think it was 7 years to get to his current size but more like a three or four.
And if you look at his posts, he says that at 190 he stopped. Why? Because it was too big for his frame. He didn't like that weight since his body frame didn't match it (he was starting to look pudgy as he was getting too big).
But the bigger you get, the more fragile you get. Who wants to stay locked inside doing the program perfectly? Have you seen AE's diet? I consider it light. Only when I'm active and socializing does my diet become more light. When I'm in the university studying and all, I have more access to my meals so they get very large (4000+ calories).
I also have a much larger skeletal frame than AE does. I'm also taller (6'3-6'4). I can put on much more muscle and it will still look good. Women still think I am 'thin' but that is more to my height and long limbs than to anything else. Nevertheless, I am 'well shaped' (as a girl recently told me).
I don't think its possible to just gain muscle. When you go up 10-30 pounds, you will gain some fat. But this fat is not very noticable and easily burns off during the fat loss portion of the program.
It probably isn't possible to gain just muscle mass in large quantities without a trace of fat. Most weight lifters go mass and then a short fat loss period.
(It's impossible for skinny guys to get 'huge' with fat [unless your diet just sucks]. Fat loss is very easy for skinny guys due to our higher metabolism. Keeping the mass is the hard part, not losing the fat.)
As for my body fat, I rely more on 'sight' then I do from that bloody caliper (could never get it to be accurate anyhow). If I'm so fat, why do I have a six pack? It's not possible to be fat and have a six pack, you must have very low body fat levels in order to see it.
You ever had that feeling where you once thought you were ok (think Nice Guy) but in actuality you were a monstrosity ("I can't believe I was a Nice Guy!"). This is the same thing.
I was skinny but didn't think much of it. Hey, I wasn't fat! Now I look at how I was and shake my head, "How stupid I was!" Being tall with very long limbs makes me wear the added muscle better than other people would. It's not like I gained a whole lot of muscle, its that I was so under-developed with muscle in the first place.
When a fat guy loses like 80 pounds of fat, it's not because he is doing something super-human. It is because he was super fat to begin with.
And when a skinny guy gains like 80 pounds of muscle, it's not because he is going beyond the body builders. It is because he was super thin to begin with. I had to gain like 20 lbs to be considered 'normal'.
My example is not extreme. Jay, a moderator on the skinnyguy.net forums, started out 6'3 110 lbs and is now around 210 lbs. When he was 110, he looked like a Holocaust survivor.
It just shows that those of us who think we were 'thin' but 'ok' aren't 'ok' at all.
Even funnier is that our results are actually fiction. We have not been gaining muscle, no, we have actually just been getting fat. Not only are we so stupid that we can't tell the difference from muscle and fat, we have been been decieving ourselves which we now can realize by *x* person's observation. This is too funny not to be commented on. "I have gained X amount of muscle" "No, you have been decieving yourself. It is all fat!" Then how can I lift heavier and heavier weights? Does fat has some super power on its own? Do the lipids join and create little bursts of power?
For the photo, you'll have to get in line. Lots of demand for Pookish photos.
Anthony Ellis just did his research (and did a very good job of it) of what worked and what didn't. I imagined he stayed skinny because, even though he had been working out, his body was starving for nutrition to build up the body. So when he started the Body for Life program, his body was already converted to the type II fibers. I don't think it was 7 years to get to his current size but more like a three or four.
And if you look at his posts, he says that at 190 he stopped. Why? Because it was too big for his frame. He didn't like that weight since his body frame didn't match it (he was starting to look pudgy as he was getting too big).
But the bigger you get, the more fragile you get. Who wants to stay locked inside doing the program perfectly? Have you seen AE's diet? I consider it light. Only when I'm active and socializing does my diet become more light. When I'm in the university studying and all, I have more access to my meals so they get very large (4000+ calories).
I also have a much larger skeletal frame than AE does. I'm also taller (6'3-6'4). I can put on much more muscle and it will still look good. Women still think I am 'thin' but that is more to my height and long limbs than to anything else. Nevertheless, I am 'well shaped' (as a girl recently told me).
I don't think its possible to just gain muscle. When you go up 10-30 pounds, you will gain some fat. But this fat is not very noticable and easily burns off during the fat loss portion of the program.
It probably isn't possible to gain just muscle mass in large quantities without a trace of fat. Most weight lifters go mass and then a short fat loss period.
(It's impossible for skinny guys to get 'huge' with fat [unless your diet just sucks]. Fat loss is very easy for skinny guys due to our higher metabolism. Keeping the mass is the hard part, not losing the fat.)
As for my body fat, I rely more on 'sight' then I do from that bloody caliper (could never get it to be accurate anyhow). If I'm so fat, why do I have a six pack? It's not possible to be fat and have a six pack, you must have very low body fat levels in order to see it.
You ever had that feeling where you once thought you were ok (think Nice Guy) but in actuality you were a monstrosity ("I can't believe I was a Nice Guy!"). This is the same thing.
I was skinny but didn't think much of it. Hey, I wasn't fat! Now I look at how I was and shake my head, "How stupid I was!" Being tall with very long limbs makes me wear the added muscle better than other people would. It's not like I gained a whole lot of muscle, its that I was so under-developed with muscle in the first place.
When a fat guy loses like 80 pounds of fat, it's not because he is doing something super-human. It is because he was super fat to begin with.
And when a skinny guy gains like 80 pounds of muscle, it's not because he is going beyond the body builders. It is because he was super thin to begin with. I had to gain like 20 lbs to be considered 'normal'.
My example is not extreme. Jay, a moderator on the skinnyguy.net forums, started out 6'3 110 lbs and is now around 210 lbs. When he was 110, he looked like a Holocaust survivor.
It just shows that those of us who think we were 'thin' but 'ok' aren't 'ok' at all.
