Single Mothers

[Bokanovsky]

I know a woman who has a daughter and she's single her husband went to iraq and came back literally insane. She had to go.

Because supporting your husband through a difficult time, as he is dealing with post traumatic stress after serving his country and putting his life on the line is just such a crazy, unthinkable thing to do in today's world

 

[Bokanovsky]

Let's just get a few things clear:

-You got bullied in high school and never could laid, so you ran away to somewhere in Asia.
-You stayed there and eventually married someone
-You have lived there ever since, with your wife
-You hate the U.S.
-Your favorite pastimes are playing video games and playing with your Magic Cards,

Is that it? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

And you have supporters all over this site, repping you. Complementing you on your knowledge of video games and skills with Magic cards.

And, of course, this qualifies you as an expert in dating women. And your advice should just be stated as fact. Wise man you are.

Regardless of his personal history and place of residence, his point is a valid one. Single moms are only good for pump 'n dump. Period, end of story.

 

[MikeOck]

Some people are warned a few times not to touch a hot stove because it will burn them. Something clicks in their brain and they realize how much sense that makes, so they never touch a hot stove.

Some people hear not to touch a hot stove and they think, "Maybe you other fools got burned, but I'm special. A hot stove can't burn ME, and even if it does, I'm strong and can take it!". So they go ahead and touch that hot stove, only to get burned and suffer the consequences, but they learn not to touch a stove again.

Still, a few people touch the hot stove repeatedly, their brains are unable to correlate that the hot stove is the cause of their burns. They suffer repeatedly but never learn their lesson.

Single mothers are like a hot stove. You've been warned, both by logical explanation and by those who have been burned before you. Are you the guy who learns quickly, or do you need to get burned repeatedly before it makes sense?

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

Some people are warned a few times not to touch a hot stove because it will burn them. Something clicks in their brain and they realize how much sense that makes, so they never touch a hot stove.

Some people hear not to touch a hot stove and they think, "Maybe you other fools got burned, but I'm special. A hot stove can't burn ME, and even if it does, I'm strong and can take it!". So they go ahead and touch that hot stove, only to get burned and suffer the consequences, but they learn not to touch a stove again.

Still, a few people touch the hot stove repeatedly, their brains are unable to correlate that the hot stove is the cause of their burns. They suffer repeatedly but never learn their lesson.

Single mothers are like a hot stove. You've been warned, both by logical explanation and by those who have been burned before you. Are you the guy who learns quickly, or do you need to get burned repeatedly before it makes sense?

Are you referring to me. If so, I understand the analogy, but the only thing wrong with that is I've never been "burned" by a single mother. And I've dated quite a few of them.

"Logical explanation", seems to be a lot of that on here. Same people who have been burned by a single mother I'm sure have been burned by a single non-mother as well. You can blame it on whatever you want.

This forum is filled with excuses. Added to that are the KJ's who haven't been on a date in five years, telling guys how "they would do it". Oh yeah, only date women in their 20's that are 8's to 10's who have no baggage and sub-servant, and have had less than 5 sexual partners, and don't have the slightest bit of craziness attached to them. But after all the work you've put in on one of these unicorns, and she starts to show the slightest bit of insecurity, or doesn't return a text after an hour, or does something else that can be construed as disrespectful, then by all means......next her.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

Regardless of his personal history and place of residence, his point is a valid one. Single moms are only good for pump 'n dump. Period, end of story.

No, that wasn't his point. His point was to not date them...at all.

And his personal experience and where he lives is very important. It shows he has zero experience with single moms. But still felt he needed to make a bold statement of advice on this thread, twice.

 

[namthebabe]

You're probably not looking hard enough.

Or in the right places.

 

[namthebabe]

Also, like most things in life, dating single mothers is not black and white. I personally wouldn't do it, as I don't like kids, but it depends on the man.

 

[namthebabe]

1 kid = bye
2 kids = bye bye
3 kids = bye bye bye (Nsync)

Only losers have to date women with children from other men. You date a single mom and you are part of a cuckold, taking care of another man's mistakes. There are plenty of SINGLE women out there, if you are reduced to dating a single mom, then you are the lowest scum that can be scraped from the barrel. You are pink slime.

Single as in never married or without children are few. Even as modern society doesn't scorn women who don't want children (not as much as it once did).

It's also basic maths. Once one reaches 30-40, well duh.. what percentage of women have NEVER had children? not that much, maybe 20% as an arbitrary figure. So 2 from every 10 women you meet have not had kids, yeah good odds...

 

[LiveFreeX]

You got bullied in high school and never could laid, so you ran away to somewhere in Asia.
-You stayed there and eventually married someone
-You have lived there ever since, with your wife
-You hate the U.S.
-Your favorite pastimes are playing video games and playing with your Magic Cards,

You think you know me really well huh?

Ran away? I LIVED in Korea, Germany, Egypt, Austria, Brazil, Japan, Mexico, Peru loooooooooong before I came to China and fvcked girls in all of those countries. I was into SS and red pill way before you ever were. Please pal, get your sh1t straight before you comment on my life, you don't even know half the sh1t I've done. I don't hate the U.S., I do hate know it all Americans and the current Americans that inhabit it though, half my family are Americans. That said, I don't much care for Canadians, or brits as long as they act like idiot mangina losers. If you want to get into a pissing contest, you are doing it with the wrong guy.

-Your favorite pastimes are playing video games and playing with your Magic Cards

Mystery is a big Elder Scrolls fan btw.

 

[Zunder]

Are you referring to me. If so, I understand the analogy, but the only thing wrong with that is I've never been "burned" by a single mother. And I've dated quite a few of them.

"Logical explanation", seems to be a lot of that on here. Same people who have been burned by a single mother I'm sure have been burned by a single non-mother as well. You can blame it on whatever you want.

This forum is filled with excuses. Added to that are the KJ's who haven't been on a date in five years, telling guys how "they would do it". Oh yeah, only date women in their 20's that are 8's to 10's who have no baggage and sub-servant, and have had less than 5 sexual partners, and don't have the slightest bit of craziness attached to them. But after all the work you've put in on one of these unicorns, and she starts to show the slightest bit of insecurity, or doesn't return a text after an hour, or does something else that can be construed as disrespectful, then by all means......next her.

I've have banged over 100 women of varying quality, been burned, burned some myself, been a bit of a 'beta' at times, been 'alpha' at times, been 'inbetween' a lot of the times, which is probably where most of us are at -- have not dated seriously for a while due to extraneous circumstances, but that does not mean I, and others, that are currently on leave, do not have some value to offer. I have been with all types of women, from chubby to skinny, from BPD, to single mothers (!), to christian girls. My lasy GF, if you coud call her that, left me -- in the words of the one and only 'Playherman" a total beta phaggot -- to put it bluntly. She also gave me a little gift ,of which you know.

You make some good posts, P&V, but you have been around here only since April this year, and you have been coming on strong lately in a few posts accusing quite a few people here of being "KJ", which I assume is an "KeyBoard Jockey".
Well, to a certain extent we are all "Keyboard Jockeys". We are all here for a reason, and the biggest KJ of them all in the manosphere -- Mark Minter -- still had some good points to make even though he never lived his own words.

What bought you here if you don't mind me asking? I guess I could wade through all your posts -- but you could give us a quick summation?

I'd also be interested in your ongoing defence of single mothers. I see you wrote you dated them...are you still dating them? Or, is dating a bit too generous, and actually pump and dump would be a term more to the point?
Would you consider an ltr with one, even leading to helping bring up her child / children perhaps?

BTw, anyone reads this and thinks I am boasting about 100 plus lays, it works out at only 3.something per year since I lost my virginity as a teenager. And when I say varying quality, I really mean it.

I guess the point of this post in the end is that a lot of the guys on here you are accusing of being KJs have interesting background, of which livefreex is but one.
That does not mean you have to agree with him or anyone else -- but unless you are a pook or a rollo or a jophill (rip) then it is pretty hard for the rest of us to sit back and let you just carry on with the KJ accusations without asking a few questions of your own background.....which is what I have done in this post.

I gave you an honest answer in a previous thread and some more in this one, so lets see if you can do the same in this one.

Cheers.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

I've have banged over 100 women of varying quality, been burned, burned some myself, been a bit of a 'beta' at times, been 'alpha' at times, been 'inbetween' a lot of the times, which is probably where most of us are at -- have not dated seriously for a while due to extraneous circumstances, but that does not mean I, and others, that are currently on leave, do not have some value to offer. I have been with all types of women, from chubby to skinny, from BPD, to single mothers (!), to christian girls. My lasy GF, if you coud call her that, left me -- in the words of the one and only 'Playherman" a total beta phaggot -- to put it bluntly. She also gave me a little gift ,of which you know.

You make some good posts, P&V, but you have been around here only since April this year, and you have been coming on strong lately in a few posts accusing quite a few people here of being "KJ", which I assume is an "KeyBoard Jockey".
Well, to a certain extent we are all "Keyboard Jockeys". We are all here for a reason, and the biggest KJ of them all in the manosphere -- Mark Minter -- still had some good points to make even though he never lived his own words.

What bought you here if you don't mind me asking? I guess I could wade through all your posts -- but you could give us a quick summation?

I'd also be interested in your ongoing defence of single mothers. I see you wrote you dated them...are you still dating them? Or, is dating a bit too generous, and actually pump and dump would be a term more to the point?
Would you consider an ltr with one, even leading to helping bring up her child / children perhaps?

BTw, anyone reads this and thinks I am boasting about 100 plus lays, it works out at only 3.something per year since I lost my virginity as a teenager. And when I say varying quality, I really mean it.

I guess the point of this post in the end is that a lot of the guys on here you are accusing of being KJs have interesting background, of which livefreex is but one.
That does not mean you have to agree with him or anyone else -- but unless you are a pook or a rollo or a jophill (rip) then it is pretty hard for the rest of us to sit back and let you just carry on with the KJ accusations without asking a few questions of your own background.....which is what I have done in this post.

I gave you an honest answer in a previous thread and some more in this one, so lets see if you can do the same in this one.

Cheers.

Zunder,

I appreciate your openness and honesty, you've stated your point well, so I'll try to explain my side as best I can.

Your first paragraph describing yourself, I could pretty much copy and paste it and put in my auto-biography.

I don't mind people disagreeing with me. I pride myself in understanding different posters point of view. Everyone has one, and none of them are going to be the same. When I see a post, I try to put myself if their/your shoes and try to understand where they/your coming from

When I make a post, 95% of the time it comes from personal experience. I've lived it, done it, experienced it. I've fvcked up too many times to count, but I've also succeeded a fair amount of times.

When I say something that I believe is 100% true and/or it worked for me, or it didn't work for me, then when someone comes in talking out of their a$$ and basically saying I'm full of $hit, I've now decided I'm going to call them out. That's the only way I can continue to be a part of this forum.

I'm here to learn, but at the same time, I'm here to teach, pass on what I have learned. My outlook on women and life is a positive one, even though I have a million reasons for it not to be....and sometimes, I fall back into that negative outlook. I try though, and I'm continuing to to try....and do.

I appreciate your compliment about my posts. If I'm going to take the time and energy to write them, then I'm also going to put the same amount of time in defending them.

My brother referred me to this site. He was going through a rough time, and moved in with me for a while. He found this site while searching for answers about his ex and I just happened to wonder why he was spending so much time on my computer. At first I was more or less just a lurker that would check in every once in a while, but eventually, I became to take more of an active roll. This site grew on me and I quickly began to take involve myself and take an active role in this community.


In regards to single women. My last two serious girlfriends were single moms. Before that, I was never exclusive with any single mothers. If I were to take a shot in the dark, I would say I've pumped and dumped somewhere around 50? single mothers, and another 10 that became plates. In my book, there is nothing negative about dating a single mom. IME there is less drama and it's easier to have no strings attached sex. The single non-mother/never-been-married women have always caused more drama. Always. Either they're constantly trying to go exclusive or there's something wrong with them physiologically.

As I've stated before, I'm looking for a solid monogamous relationship. I want that. Running around chasing down vagina can be fun, but it can get old and taxing, for me at least. But until I find that woman, I'm still going to have sex. If I were to cut out single moms, I'd be eliminating 75% of the pool. It's just not logical, and, in my eyes, there's no reason to do it.

I saw your post earlier but I've been out of town for work and haven't been in the right mind set. It's been a long one so I may not have gotten all my points across or answered your questions but I wanted to give you some type of response.

 

[Zunder]

Good one P&V.

You were not obliged to as it is a free world, but to take the time to explain all that in a concise articulate way that you have I do appreciate it.

You are correct that we do have a lot of similarities in our experiences with women, and I'd say with a large percentage of the MM guys on here.

Others will disagree, but endlessly going from one chick to the next can "get old". For the last ten years I realise I too was looking for "the one good woman" to have a solid long lasting monogamous relationship. Now I feel I am more enlightened to that fairytale ideal.

Some will say I am now bitter, or a misogynist, but such is the quality of western women these days, my chances of finding the "one" are slim if next to one -- I have become just a tad cynical about the "happy ever after" ideal.
In fact -- a common saying in the manosphere is that there is no "one", and I am afraid I have to agree.

I don't "hate" women, nor do I "love" them. I actually feel sorry for the majority of them in a way, because they are going to get to 40 and think about all the good guys like you and me, and the large percentage of guys on here, and wonder where they went wrong.

Rollo has a line that when a woman whom has obviously hit the wall asks him "where are all the good guys" he replies "in their 20's where you left them".

I am not a natural negger, and it does not come to me naturally to take the piss, or take the mick (I am from down-under so not sure of the USA terminology) out of women, and play that sort of game. I am here for the overall philosophical existentialism of it all.

One way this site has improved me dramatically is in my dealings with women in the corporate world I work in. I absolutely no longer take any sh!t at all form a woman in business. The kuntier they are the more I enjoy it. And believe me there is a proliferation of those kunty types, they are like a breed of sub-humans. They sure as fvck are not women I would spend anytime with outside of work.

As you know I am 'on leave' at the moment, and comtemplating my next move with what I now live with. Apparently it is not a big deal in Europe and does not have the stigma. So, travel plans are afoot. And I always like travelling anyway. Maybe I will get a boat, and see the world that way.

Anyway, before I digress too much -- thanks again, and go forth and find that decent chick, and when you do, we all want to hear about it.

Cheers.

 

[LiveFreeX]

In my book, there is nothing negative about dating a single mom. IME there is less drama and it's easier to have no strings attached sex.

That's cause you have some weird preoccupation with dating single moms, some sort of save a ho perversion. Maybe your level of game sucks... whatever the case may be, you are scraping the bottom of the barrel.. you are dividing by zero, there isn't much lower you can go. Dating single mothers is just short of becoming gay. Who are you? Mark Minter?

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=178965

This is a nice qoute from another article:

Dating a single mother is like playing a game on someone else's save file.

There is simply no greater shame in China than becoming a single mother, God bless this country.

http://memegenerator.net/instance/32347988

 

[Stagger Lee]

Use to be almost no guy wanted a female who: 1. has a child 2. old 3. fat

Now, a woman could be all three and plenty of guys are happy and honored to bang them. You got to do what you can, but you don't have to make your necessity a virtue. It's just pathetic how any old 40-50 year old fat, ugly woman with kids can get sex like a rockstar. So much so they can even demand younger, fit guys.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

such is the quality of western women these days, my chances of finding the "one" are slim if next to one -- I have become just a tad cynical about the "happy ever after" ideal.
In fact -- a common saying in the manosphere is that there is no "one", and I am afraid I have to agree.

I don't "hate" women, nor do I "love" them. I actually feel sorry for the majority of them in a way, because they are going to get to 40 and think about all the good guys like you and me, and the large percentage of guys on here, and wonder where they went wrong.

Rollo has a line that when a woman whom has obviously hit the wall asks him "where are all the good guys" he replies "in their 20's where you left them".

This is very true, and I'm in the same boat. I have more or less accepted that I may never find "the one". It is what it is, and I'm not going to settle.

One way this site has improved me dramatically is in my dealings with women in the corporate world I work in. I absolutely no longer take any sh!t at all form a woman in business. The kuntier they are the more I enjoy it. And believe me there is a proliferation of those kunty types

Same here. Before, when working or dealing with a beautiful woman from work, my approach would be mostly beta. I would be an AFC, giving them power over me. Now a days, I enjoy, working with a beautiful woman who thinks her looks are going to get my attention and/or special treatment. It's fun to see her act a certain way, only to see a confused look on her face when I do the opposite of what she's expecting. This sight has helped me greatly in that area.

, they are like a breed of sub-humans. They sure as fvck are not women I would spend anytime with outside of work.

This is where you and I differ. A lot of these women are fvcked up people, yes I agree there. For some, the reason they are is because they've been empowered by men, simply because of their looks. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely." That is my mindset on it. "Don't hate the player, hate the game."

Some of these women, who seem or act like total b1tches, will turn around and treat the right guy like a total king. Does that make it okay? Probably not. But some of these beautiful women have to act like a b1tch to guys. They don't have a choice. If they were nice to every guy they ran into just for the sake of being nice, they would have 10 new stalkers a day. Am I defending them? You may be able to say that. I'm just trying to show you a different perspective, no need to have to agree with me, but that is just how I see it.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

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[Vigs]

I forgot that I made this thread.

I did the college town thing. It was fun to run through college girls for awhile, but it got old, I moved to a larger town,(small city) and although there are two colleges here, I haven't been in the "hey little girl, want some candy?" mode.

My question was legit, what geographic location has an abundance of single childless women? in their late 20s-early 30s? I find that age range to be old enough to know their asses from a hole in the ground, yet still to have some mileage left on them.

I can think of 0 women....and I have a huge network of people, who have no children in that age bracket, and I cant bring myself to do more than pump and dump the college ones.

As far as going to Mexico.....that is a 14 hour drive (Texas is actually kind of large).

Single moms have their issues, but my current geographic location is not exactly a target rich environment for childless women.

 

[MikeOck]

My question was legit, what geographic location has an abundance of single childless women? in their late 20s-early 30s?

The North-Eastern US: DC, Philadelphia, New York, Boston, etc.

 

[Paintballguy]

Visit the East Coast cities from Washington D.C. to Boston. I call it the independent, strong woman, feminist strip of the U.S.

It consists of:

-Washington D.C.
-Baltimore
-Philadelphia
-New York City
-Boston

Lots and lots of women over 25 without kids. LOTS AND LOTS.

Coming from someone that lives close to Baltimore and DC, I can agree with this. There are a lot more "career minded" women without kids.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

That's cause you have some weird preoccupation with dating single moms, some sort of save a ho perversion. Maybe your level of game sucks... whatever the case may be, you are scraping the bottom of the barrel.. you are dividing by zero, there isn't much lower you can go. Dating single mothers is just short of becoming gay. Who are you? Mark Minter?

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=178965

This is a nice qoute from another article:

Dating a single mother is like playing a game on someone else's save file.

There is simply no greater shame in China than becoming a single mother, God bless this country.

http://memegenerator.net/instance/32347988

YOU ARE MARRIED AND LIVE IN CHINA.

I AM SINGLE AND LIVE IN THE U.S.

Why would I ever take dating advice from you?