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[Centaurion]

Recently I've been reading a lot about psychopaths, and the more I read, the more I realize that I might have psychopathic tendencies. Look at this :

The most prominent symptoms of a Psychopath is antisocial behavior, having no conscience, being highly manipulative, being a fluent and convincing liar and being superficially charming. Psychopath's are thrill seekers who view others as fodder for exploitation.

That fits me perfectly. And also check out this page : http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath_2.htm

PRIMARY PSYCHOPATHS do not respond to punishment, apprehension, stress, or disapproval. They seem to be able to inhibit their antisocial impulses most of the time, not because of conscience, but because it suits their purpose at the time. Words do not seem to have the same meaning for them as they do for us. In fact, it's unclear if they even grasp the meaning of their own words, a condition that Cleckley called "semantic aphasia." They don't follow any life plan, and it seems as if they are incapable of experiencing any genuine emotion.

Same thing there.

It's really scary for me to read all this, because it's like reading my own life. I have no moral compass, the only reason I don't go completely overboard is because the risk outweighs the gains. But once that threshold is surpassed, I might let it all loose. When I interact with people everything I do and say is calculated, when I talk with a chick/friends/co-workers I've already played out the conversation before hand I know what to say/how to lie to get the desired outcome. It's a game of chess for me.


Just the other day a "close" friend of mine told me his grandparent is dying, and I was like "uh..cool". I don't have any empathy for other people, I only see them as pawns - they only exist to serve my needs. Nothing more, nothing less.

I can't say that I've had a meaningful relationship with a woman before. Sure I've had a couple of ltrs, the longest for almost a year, but I had several women on the side. And I didn't "connect" with them, the only reason I stayed that long with them was because they were up for trying some freaky sh!t. But they all thought that I "loved" them, and that we were going to get married. When I got what I needed I just moved on. Hell, in my last ltr, I told the chick that I was going out to get some beers, but I got on a plane and went to the other side of the world. It wasn't until she called me the next day that I told here were I was, and that it was over. She broke down in tears, and I couldn’t care less.

The worst part is that I tell people straight out that I don’t care for them, and that I’m only using them to meet my needs, but they all brush it off as a joke because it doesn’t fit with the image I portray. Just tonight I told everything to a chick I met at a bar, I was drunk and I needed to let it all out. You know what she did? She laughed and said that I was cute. I brought her back to my place and fvcked her nine ways to Sunday, threw some cab money at her and kicked her out at 4 am in the morning like some *****. And this was a cute girl from my faculty. I have no remorse over that.

Anyways, I don’t why I wrote this post, I just wanted to went. This is the only place where I can do that.

 

[lookyoung]

What a sad way to live. I think you have some deep emotional issues and I feel very sorry for you. I get the feeling that your the type of guy that would rape a girl that passed out. That would cheat someone out of money. That would steal but your probably too much of a coward to do these things because your scared you will go to jail or fvck with the wrong person and get a bullet up your ass.

I am the type of guy i don't do these things because I have a moral compass and not because I am scared of the consequences. Your nothing but a punk. :trouble:

 

[Centaurion]

No, I would not rape some girl. Why would I take something that I can get easily without force?

Yes, I would cheat someone out of money, but only when it comes to larger amounts, ie 1 million USD +.

No, I'm not scared of the consequences, it's just a basic risk vs gains equation.

 

[lookyoung]

Yes, I would cheat someone out of money, but only when it comes to larger amounts, ie 1 million USD +

I am glad that I didn't come up with this type of an upbringing. Do you think if this guy came from a good family he would have this mentality. Do you think if his father was stand up he would have this type of mentality? Do you think if his mother was nice he would think like this? I don't think so. I consider people like this to be the garbage in society next to the pedophiles and murders.

To the people with children raise your kids morals otherwise they end up like this.

 

[Aenigma]

It's really scary for me to read all this, because it's like reading my own life. I have no moral compass, the only reason I don't go completely overboard is because the risk outweighs the gains. But once that threshold is surpassed, I might let it all loose. When I interact with people everything I do and say is calculated, when I talk with a chick/friends/co-workers I've already played out the conversation before hand I know what to say/how to lie to get the desired outcome. It's a game of chess for me.

You sound like most women. Manipulative, calculating, and self-centered. Rather ironic, you denounce yourself for traits that we accept, and even expect out of a given gender. Double standards and lace curtin indeed.

I can't say that I've had a meaningful relationship with a woman before. Sure I've had a couple of ltrs, the longest for almost a year, but I had several women on the side. And I didn't "connect" with them, the only reason I stayed that long with them was because they were up for trying some freaky sh!t. But they all thought that I "loved" them, and that we were going to get married. When I got what I needed I just moved on. Hell, in my last ltr, I told the chick that I was going out to get some beers, but I got on a plane and went to the other side of the world. It wasn't until she called me the next day that I told here were I was, and that it was over. She broke down in tears, and I couldn’t care less.

The worst part is that I tell people straight out that I don’t care for them, and that I’m only using them to meet my needs, but they all brush it off as a joke because it doesn’t fit with the image I portray. Just tonight I told everything to a chick I met at a bar, I was drunk and I needed to let it all out. You know what she did? She laughed and said that I was cute. I brought her back to my place and fvcked her nine ways to Sunday, threw some cab money at her and kicked her out at 4 am in the morning like some *****. And this was a cute girl from my faculty. I have no remorse over that.

One of the central themes of Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill is that every "disadvantage" can be turned into an equivilent advantage. Now, what does being psychotic give you? Well, oddly enough, it gives you something that I've been striving for for quite some time- namely the ability to NOT be emotionally manipulated. As a former Nice Guy, I can tell you that empathy and caring about the opinions of other are the primary tools that women use to manipulate men to do their bidding, the tools that they use to bend men to their wills. By not caring about their emotions, you are free- you are the center of your own world- as it should be. You are the ubermensch operating out of Neitzche's Master Morality.


You do however, seem to lack of moral compass (and frankly, having someone who is completely self-centered without a moral compass is VERY worrisome). What you need, I think, is a philosophical base for your actions; a view of yourself in the bigger picture. I would suggest reading The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. These two novels that form the cornerstone of objectivism- a philosophy based of egoism with a rational moral base. Many critics often call the protagonists psychotic, as they're entirely self-cenetered, so you should have no problem identifing with them. You have the egoism- now go get your philosophical moral base, and I think you'll be fine person.

 

[Phyzzle]

Funny, that site has an article on Don Juan.

 

[Centaurion]

I am glad that I didn't come up with this type of an upbringing. Do you think if this guy came from a good family he would have this mentality. Do he think if his father was stand up he would have this type of mentality? Do you think if his mother was nice he would think like this? I don't think so. I consider people like this to be the garbage in society next to the pedophiles and murders.

To the people with children raise your kids with morals otherwise they end up like this.

It's funny how you try to trash talk over the net.
:crackup:

I had a normal upbringing. My parents are as caring as ever, and have high moral standards. I'm the quite opposite.

 

[the_absolute]

You've got your head up your a55. Probably too much time on your hands. Whaaa whaaa whaaa I might be a psychopath PLEASE.....

And LOL you'd only rip someone off for more than a million bucks.

You sir, are full of sh1t and you wish you were important enough to even be called a psychopath.

A generation ME narcissist who needs to grow up and get busy is all you are. Oh, also you might just be a homosexual. That would explain a lot of it.

 

[joekerr31]

You've got your head up your a55. Probably too much time on your hands. Whaaa whaaa whaaa I might be a psychopath PLEASE.....

And LOL you'd only rip someone off for more than a million bucks.

You sir, are full of sh1t and you wish you were important enough to even be called a psychopath.

A generation ME narcissist who needs to grow up and get busy is all you are. Oh, also you might just be a homosexual. That would explain a lot of it.

i agree with this 100%.

'look at me. i don't care about anyone. i'm a psychopath.' - yawn :yawn:

fyi, psychopaths don't tell other people they are psychopaths - even on an annonymous message board. they don't care that they are psychopaths, they just are.

 

[KontrollerX]

Lookyoung he doesn't have any emotional problems if he's a sociopath.

In short if he's a sociopath he has no emotions at all so everything he has said makes perfect sense to me.

Centaurion you may or may not be one of these people but just know that Dr. Robert Hare the world expert on them says a lot of people can be close to being a sociopath such as being a cold person, manipulative and exploitative but not actually be one.

You should check out sociopathic.net and take some of the quizzes there and read the forum to see if you see yourself in those people or not.

I've read your posts for a while here and you never struck me as an ASPD but that is the whole thing about the condition.

ASPD's appear to be perfectly normal to the outside population.

Edit: Also to every poster here you guys need to know that a sociopath can be born into a healthy normal family and still grow up to be a sociopath since its a condition that can simply be what a person is born with or they can experience horrible trauma at a young age and then their emotions cut off and they become one as a result of that but yeah sociopaths can be both born and made.

 

[Phyzzle]

Also to every poster here you guys need to know that a sociopath can be born into a healthy normal family and still grow up to be a sociopath

Yes, the condition is probably genetic, unlike BPD which is probably from the childhood environment.

Plus, there are weird cases like Phineas Gage who became a psychopath after having his brain impaled on a spike.

 

[the_absolute]

^ Emotional deficit is usually caused by PTSD or brain damage from drug use. Less often it's a result of a birth defect or a developmental disorder.

Most grown men suffer from emotional deficit to some extent. After you experience love, poverty and war, you are bound to have PTSD, and are also a grown man at that point...

 

[Mr. Me]

A gal the other night told me she thinks I'm a Narcissist, but I said to her, "like I care what you think".

 

[Outsider]

Maybe get on some pills or something?

 

[KontrollerX]

There's no medication or cure for sociopathy.

Only experimental treatments with varying success.

Regular psychotherapy for them focuses on getting them to deal with boredom in constructive ways rather than abusing drugs or committing crimes since they suffer with boredom nonstop 24 hours a day due to their lack of emotions and general dull feeling as a result.

 

[Centaurion]

Lookyoung he doesn't have any emotional problems if he's a sociopath.

In short if he's a sociopath he has no emotions at all so everything he has said makes perfect sense to me.

Centaurion you may or may not be one of these people but just know that Dr. Robert Hare the world expert on them says a lot of people can be close to being a sociopath such as being a cold person, manipulative and exploitative but not actually be one.

You should check out sociopathic.net and take some of the quizzes there and read the forum to see if you see yourself in those people or not.

I've read your posts for a while here and you never struck me as an ASPD but that is the whole thing about the condition.

ASPD's appear to be perfectly normal to the outside population.

Edit: Also to every poster here you guys need to know that a sociopath can be born into a healthy normal family and still grow up to be a sociopath since its a condition that can simply be what a person is born with or they can experience horrible trauma at a young age and then their emotions cut off and they become one as a result of that but yeah sociopaths can be both born and made.

Thank you for constructive feedback. I will check out that site.

I didn't post this because I wanted to show off, or brag about it. I just needed to went. I never said I was a psycopath, just that I showed some psychopatic tendencies.

I highly suggest that you all read Law as Fact by Olivecrona. Guys all over these forums talk about "unplugging from the matrix", but this guy did it more than 50 years ago. He discusses moral standards in law, and if they are a requirement. He denies it, and concludes with that our practial concience is nothing but a mere illushion. Morals and law are nothing but imperatives from the powers that be to controll and modify our behaviour. That is what the 'matrix' is all about.

 

[Mr.Positive]

I just needed to went...

That's the second time you've "needed to went", what do you mean by this? Why is this the only misspelled word in your posts?

For the record, you don't have any psycho problems...your problem is that life is happening all around you, but you are not taking part of it.

You fail to realize that your existance can amount to anything, therefore it will amount to nothing.

Your choice..live life, or let life happen and take no part in it.

I don't mean to be harsh, but come on? There are people actually suffering in this world, and you are posting this bullsh!t?

Get busy livin!! Get out there, make a difference..do something, contribute...the time is now. Do it.

 

[the_absolute]

There's no medication or cure for sociopathy.

That depends entirely on the cause of the affliction. As I mentioned before on this thread, the vast majority of cases of emotional deficit and sociopathic disposition are rooted in PTSD, and therapy can be very helpful in sorting this problem out.

When one is exposed to the very extremes of emotional pain, one's neuro-chemistry and neuro-biological structure makes adjustments in order to deal with the massive problem caused by emotional panic/distress etc. The logical solution from a survival perspective is for the brain to shut down (or heavily suppress) emotional circuits. This is what the body does more often than not.

So when you think of PTSD, you might think of night terrors and shell-shock, flashbacks and anxiety, but these are fringe symptoms. The majority of PTSD sufferers experience the affliction in a social context and complain of an emotional deficit - not understanding why.

I also said in this thread that after any man has experienced Love, Poverty and War, he will have some degree of emotional deficit. It's a mans place to tough up and deal with things. To march on regardless of whatever terrible despair he might feel the urge to resign to. SO in that sense any real grown man of at least some hypothetical rank and file in the order of things must be resistant to primary emotions. The trick is to be emotionally mature and allow ones self to experience these things and to empathise with others when necessary and appropriate, but to maintain the mettle of a gentleman under stress.

 

[MacAvoy]

I also see alot of my tendencies in those. However, theres a huge difference between me & a pyschopath. I've still got control of my emotions, I just have unplugged from the matrix and choose not to conform to society's norms.

That being said, I would also kill someone and enjoy it. However I don't because there isn't sufficient reward to. I also would never go to jail, I'd rather go down in a blaze of glory. Its better to burn out than fade away.

 

[Centaurion]

I also see alot of my tendencies in those. However, theres a huge difference between me & a pyschopath. I've still got control of my emotions, I just have unplugged from the matrix and choose not to conform to society's norms.

The best word to describe me is "jaded". Much like Str8up, I believe I've seen everything when it comes to the other gender. Nothing shocks me anymore, I'm indifferent to others around me. That said, I don't believe I'm a psychopath, I'm not that far gone. But I keep a tight control on my emotions, so tight that I at times don't believe I have any.

That being said, I would also kill someone and enjoy it. However I don't because there isn't sufficient reward to. I also would never go to jail, I'd rather go down in a blaze of glory. Its better to burn out than fade away.

:yes:

I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing today. I was reading about Alexander, and how he conquered the entire known world at the age of 30. As they say, the brightest flame burns the quickest.


KontrollerX :

I did several of the surveys and answered as honestly as I could. I got :

Psychopathic test : "Your score is 88. You are a suppressed sociopath (It is just a matter of time until the sociopath breaks out) "

Antisocial test : "Your score is 14.You have EXTREME - Antisocial Characteristics"

Schizoid test : "Your score is 6. You have MODERATE - Schizoid Traits"

Schizotypal test : "Your score is 12. You have HIGH - Schizotypal Characteristics"'

So I'm pretty much fvcked...Heh, but this is not how I portray myself. I'm not some kid that lives in his parents basement and play WoW 24/7. I pull chicks left and right, and it seems like people are flocking to me. Weird sh!t.

Btw, I got a promotion to middle managment at my work a couple of months ago, and now they want me to contact HR so they can do a DISC test on me. It'll be fun to see the results of that one.