Should men try and become Super Chads?

[Alvafe]

Reading the dj bible now for a modern man is like reading the 1830 Von Clausewitz war manual for a 2019 general.

The world changed, they didnt have radars in 19th century austria as much as they didnt have social networks and social dating in the mid 00s.

Half of what you find in the dj bible not only is useless but possibly even wrong...sure wait 3 days before calling her after she met 100 more guys that afternoon only, oh and also call her instead of texting, women love to share their attention span with long calls instead of texts.

if you can't keep her interest lvl high enough don't matter if you wait 3 days or msg her a day after, she will still flake, the idea is always never take everyhing as a it is, you need to read, understand the idea and then put in practice with you own way and words.

his mind set is completely wrong, he do everything possible to apease and anything to bring a female atencion to him, he need a external validation, he keep going like this his mind will break

 

[Who Dares Win]

if you can't keep her interest lvl high enough don't matter if you wait 3 days or msg her a day after, she will still flake, the idea is always never take everyhing as a it is, you need to read, understand the idea and then put in practice with you own way and words.

his mind set is completely wrong, he do everything possible to apease and anything to bring a female atencion to him, he need a external validation, he keep going like this his mind will break

Attraction is not a choice and cant be created, that stuff about "keeping her interest high" is still some relic from the dj bible times.

If your LMS is high above hers and above those around you, unless you seriously screw up its very hard that she will lose interest in 3 days.

Agree on the part about finding your own system if thats what you meant.

 

[lgbs2004]

Reading the dj bible now for a modern man is like reading the 1830 Von Clausewitz war manual for a 2019 general.

The world changed, they didnt have radars in 19th century austria as much as they didnt have social networks and social dating in the mid 00s.

Half of what you find in the dj bible not only is useless but possibly even wrong...sure wait 3 days before calling her after she met 100 more guys that afternoon only, oh and also call her instead of texting, women love to share their attention span with long calls instead of texts.

The foundations on the DJ Bible posts are still relevant. Not all of them of course, but the majority is. I like bondjamesbond's and Pook's posts. Another guy that helped me a lot was PlayHer Man!

About becoming a "super chad" I think it's not needed, a man that is in shape and don't have a hideous face can get lots of women. Hell, even me with my beer belly can get some hot chicks!

 

[Xenom0rph]

Reading the dj bible now for a modern man is like reading the 1830 Von Clausewitz war manual for a 2019 general.

The world changed, they didnt have radars in 19th century austria as much as they didnt have social networks and social dating in the mid 00s.

Half of what you find in the dj bible not only is useless but possibly even wrong...sure wait 3 days before calling her after she met 100 more guys that afternoon only, oh and also call her instead of texting, women love to share their attention span with long calls instead of texts.

Thank you for speaking truth.... The DJ bible was written in the late 90's/early 2000s before social media and OLD took off..... It was before the hyper imbalance in SMV between males and females due to social media and OLD......


.... The dj bible has no relevancy today....

 

[corrector]

If your LMS is high above hers and above those around you, unless you seriously screw up its very hard that she will lose interest in 3 days.

A 3 day shelf life with even that, lol!

 

[corrector]

Nothing has changed between the mid 00s to now in terms of OLD taking off. I'm sure if you go back and look at archive posts you'll see the same exact issues brought up then as it is today. Attractive non-Black women always get their inboxes flooded. This happened in 2006/2007 in my experience and certainly I can't imagine its any worst today. You have to really go back to the late 90s or earlier. Just because a chick has a smartphone doesn't automatically mean she's swiping Tinder all the time either. Is that what we think now? That's maxing insecurity.

 

[biggoal]

Nothing has changed between the mid 00s to now in terms of OLD taking off. I'm sure if you go back and look at archive posts you'll see the same exact issues brought up then as it is today. Attractive non-Black women always get their inboxes flooded. This happened in 2006/2007 in my experience and certainly I can't imagine its any worst today. You have to really go back to the late 90s or earlier. Just because a chick has a smartphone doesn't automatically mean she's swiping Tinder all the time either. Is that what we think now? That's maxing insecurity.

The early to mid 2000s was the pinnacle of OLD. You had better quality women and bigger selection of them and in general less competition. Now, with smartphones being the norm every man has OLD profile and so easy for scammers as well in addition to women making OLD profiles simply for validation and not actually seriously wanting to date.

Even 8 years ago OLD was much better. I briefly used it back then and when comparing it to today it doesn't even compare. Far more better quality back then, less trash. Honestly unless you live in a major city with a lot of young people I don't even see the point of using OLD. Around here there is very little pre wall women on it to begin with. I didn't even really use it since I was taking college course still and women there and no reason to use OLD. But OLD just seems like a big waste of time having to search profiles, then message, then hope it's not a fake profile and then hopefully you get a bite. If you're in college or a environment that has a lot of women I don't see the point of OLD. better off trying to go for the women around you. A lot less time consuming!

OLD is just a big business now to make money.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Nothing has changed between the mid 00s to now in terms of OLD taking off. I'm sure if you go back and look at archive posts you'll see the same exact issues brought up then as it is today. Attractive non-Black women always get their inboxes flooded. This happened in 2006/2007 in my experience and certainly I can't imagine its any worst today. You have to really go back to the late 90s or earlier. Just because a chick has a smartphone doesn't automatically mean she's swiping Tinder all the time either. Is that what we think now? That's maxing insecurity.

I believe your mistake is to consider women to have the same needs men have.

While it didnt change much to us, it changed a LOT to women for the simple fact that their main needs being it ATTENTION is met without doing any effort and most of all accessible to plain average girls that back in mid 00s had to actually go out and meet any guy they wanted attention from.

There were not random likes (compliements) to random men for only uploading a picture that you picked among many, a girl really had to put her face behind it which meant that she needed to make and effort and make herself available plus her self esteem was calibrated according to her beauty unlike now.

This makes a hell of a difference in terms of dating as much as free handjobs from random women would make to women if men had such service available 24/7 for free.

If 1/3 of men had no sex in the last year (see topic on main forum) while nothing similar happens to women it means that something changed and its requirements for men to get sex and requirements for women to get attention.

In my opinion the game changer was not OLD but social media.

 

[17 shots]

The early to mid 2000s was the pinnacle of OLD. You had better quality women and bigger selection of them and in general less competition

Man you're not lying, Not only that, but they had their guard down because it was still relatively new and they hadn't had a bunch of bad experiences yet to make them super cautious and doubtful of everything like they are now. They were down to instantly meet up, and they ALL responded to basic one or two word openers. Do you remember tagged? I used to KILL on there, Myspace too... man those were good times. It'll never be the same

 

[corrector]

If OLD is worst now than it was over 10 years ago then for sure it does not make sense for me to use it. I was more in my prime years at least back then and only had a few short relatonships out of it, the longest lasting 9 months. Now I am older with no major LMS (or.anything that would appeal to women to put on a profile) and that is basically spells doom. No wonder I wrote a thread saying streaming services are a batter ROI than an online dating subscription.

 

[biggoal]

If OLD is worst now than it was over 10 years ago then for sure it does not make sense for me to use it. I was more in my prime years at least back then and only had a few short relatonships out of it, the longest lasting 9 months. Now I am older with no major LMS (or.anything that would appeal to women to put on a profile) and that is basically spells doom. No wonder I wrote a thread saying streaming services are a batter ROI than an online dating subscription.

To be honest with OLD I seldom have ever seen any serious LTR end out of it from friends, coworkers, or family members, few who use it or very many success stories in general anywhere other than those stupid Eharmony ads.

The only ones I've really seen success with is if the man and woman are both ugly lardballs. It seems OLD works for those types. If they're both 230lb ugly landwhales and pair up. I've seen those relationships end up long term since they're both the same and IRL would get the same results anyway. Otherwise for regular people it seems to be a waste of time for anything meaningful coming out of it on OLD.

I have a cousin who lives in a major city. About 6-4, looks young for his age, well built. He'd get a lot of dates from OLD in his area and none of them last more than 3-6 months. The women were okay looking but ended up flaking and leaving for stupid reasons and excuses. Some just bat sh** crazy and had baggage like kids and divorces.

If you're looking for LONG term unless you're a total lardball who's repulsive and can only get a landwhale I would stay off OLD. I need to get away from OLD.

 

[MatureDJ]

If you're looking for LONG term unless you're a total lardball who's repulsive and can only get a landwhale I would stay off OLD. I need to get away from OLD.

So what is your plan? You don't seem to have a plan. You can't even get out of your little hick town in southern FL.

 

[corrector]

I believe your mistake is to consider women to have the same needs men have.

While it didnt change much to us, it changed a LOT to women for the simple fact that their main needs being it ATTENTION is met without doing any effort and most of all accessible to plain average girls that back in mid 00s had to actually go out and meet any guy they wanted attention from.

There were not random likes (compliements) to random men for only uploading a picture that you picked among many, a girl really had to put her face behind it which meant that she needed to make and effort and make herself available plus her self esteem was calibrated according to her beauty unlike now.

This makes a hell of a difference in terms of dating as much as free handjobs from random women would make to women if men had such service available 24/7 for free.

If 1/3 of men had no sex in the last year (see topic on main forum) while nothing similar happens to women it means that something changed and its requirements for men to get sex and requirements for women to get attention.

In my opinion the game changer was not OLD but social media.

I don't know. If you go on any PUA website, and I mean allot of them are up from the last decade before social media existed, or existed on the level it is today, you'll find the exact same issues that you are finding today.

You are also ignoring other factors. The decline of PUA because of high profile cases that would portray that in a negative light and almost doom most people towards just their immediate social circles or OLD to meet women. You have the MeToo movement, PUA is a social stigma, and the legal system favours women in matters of child custody in divorce. It just seems like there is more misandry itself going on than a decade ago and maybe it is these other issues why 1/3 men are not having sex last year rather than just social media as you are portraying this to be. Incel and PUA have been at least some outlets guys use to have to deal with their issues and maybe these have helped some guys get ahead. To say that you can only really meet women through OLD without risking trouble for meeting women is more of the problem.

 

[Von]

Everyone I know thats in a LTR, meet using OLD (Tinder).

Sure they have many tries, up and down.

You need to have dates to be a super-chad.

Only way is to improve yourself at the same time and ask her out..call it experience

 

[corrector]

You need to have dates to be a super-chad.

You need to be super-chad to be popular with women and get allot of dates with different woman or have lots of variety.

I'm sure most of the people you know that are in LTR from OLD are not super-chad variety because super-chads - chadlites do not tend to settle with any one woman to be in an LTR in the first place because they are usually flooded with lots of options, or if they are in an LTR its just for show while they have a bunch of side chicks.

Only way is to improve yourself at the same time and ask her out..call it experience

Improving yourself is hackneyed.

 

[biggoal]

You need to be super-chad to be popular with women and get allot of dates with different woman or have lots of variety.

I'm sure most of the people you know that are in LTR from OLD are not super-chad variety because super-chads - chadlites do not tend to settle with any one woman to be in an LTR in the first place because they are usually flooded with lots of options, or if they are in an LTR its just for show while they have a bunch of side chicks.



Improving yourself is hackneyed.

If you're a super Chad you wouldn't need old unless you never get out.

Just like on old when you see an hb8 or above girl they usually have a lot of baggage and other issues. A woman that hot shouldn't be on old to begin with. They usually are bat sh** crazy and there is a reason they're using old every single day.

As I said, old seems work for your super ugly lardballs because they in return are going for the same lardballs because that's all the can get replies from.

 

[17 shots]

If you're a super Chad you wouldn't need old unless you never get out.

Just like on old when you see an hb8 or above girl they usually have a lot of baggage and other issues. A woman that hot shouldn't be on old to begin with. They usually are bat sh** crazy and there is a reason they're using old every single day.

As I said, old seems work for your super ugly lardballs because they in return are going for the same lardballs because that's all the can get replies from.

You can't apply that same logic to men because a lot of guys are just animals when it comes to looking for sex, we are biologically different from women. Do you realize that there are a lot of good looking guys who date down and have sex with women who aren't the hottest just because they are sex addicts and want a quick fix or just love getting head from a chick who's down to do it. These types of guys will use all possible resources to get what they want, and it has nothing to do with looks

This is why a lot of times a woman who you perceive to be below you will reject you and act like she can do better. That's because she HAS at one point or another. At some point in her life, a "chad" used her to fulfill his sexual appetite

 

[corrector]

You can't apply that same logic to men because a lot of guys are just animals when it comes to looking for sex, we are biologically different from women. Do you realize that there are a lot of good looking guys who date down and have sex with women who aren't the hottest just because they are sex addicts and want a quick fix or just love getting head from a chick who's down to do it. These types of guys will use all possible resources to get what they want, and it has nothing to do with looks

This is why a lot of times a woman who you perceive to be below you will reject you and act like she can do better. That's because she HAS at one point or another. At some point in her life, a "chad" used her to fulfill his sexual appetite

If we are looking at LTRs then biggoal has a point. He gets thats my only interest in OLD so his reply to my posts may hit that slant. You would not want an online girl for LTR is she is a Chad *** dumpster. There is always a different market for marriage or LTR quality women. It sounds like there would be more escortcels if just relying on online dating for any other reason since most men are just priced out.

 

[biggoal]

If we are looking at LTRs then biggoal has a point. He gets thats my only interest in OLD so his reply to my posts may hit that slant. You would not want an online girl for LTR is she is a Chad *** dumpster. There is always a different market for marriage or LTR quality women. It sounds like there would be more escortcels if just relying on online dating for any other reason since most men are just priced out.

It might be the dating platform too. At least around here it seems Tinder, and Bumble have a lot of hookers, fake profiles, hookup type people on them. Really a waste of time. I don't want that type. OKC and POF seem to be the low income, uneducated landwhale types using. Low reply rate, get bombarded by hookers, fake profiles and overall some of the nastiest women I've ever seen. The ones like Eharmony and Match seem to have the best looking women, but are also older too and more post wall but seem a lot more picky on there especially about income, marriage, children etc and less focused on looks. Like match and eharmony have a lot less under 35 on their apps down here but better looking women. As I said the 40 year old ones are better looking than the 30 year old landwhales.

Corrector, on your OLD profile what do you list for the kids question? That is a big deal breaker they will quiz you on, especially depending on the age range you're going after. Depending on what your answer is on it that could be a problem that is getting you right there. Like if you list don't want kids and the woman is only 29 and no kids that might be an issue. If it's a 39 year old with kids she doesn't want anymore kids and wanting kids will be a deal breaker right there and getting no reply back.

 

[corrector]

It might be the dating platform too. At least around here it seems Tinder, and Bumble have a lot of hookers, fake profiles, hookup type people on them. Really a waste of time. I don't want that type. OKC and POF seem to be the low income, uneducated landwhale types using. Low reply rate, get bombarded by hookers, fake profiles and overall some of the nastiest women I've ever seen. The ones like Eharmony and Match seem to have the best looking women, but are also older too and more post wall but seem a lot more picky on there especially about income, marriage, children etc and less focused on looks. Like match and eharmony have a lot less under 35 on their apps down here but better looking women. As I said the 40 year old ones are better looking than the 30 year old landwhales.

Corrector, on your OLD profile what do you list for the kids question? That is a big deal breaker they will quiz you on, especially depending on the age range you're going after. Depending on what your answer is on it that could be a problem that is getting you right there. Like if you list don't want kids and the woman is only 29 and no kids that might be an issue. If it's a 39 year old with kids she doesn't want anymore kids and wanting kids will be a deal breaker right there and getting no reply back.

In the Christian-cafe profile I usually say "Up to God" as far as kids are concerned. Given all of the recent hype you've generated from online dating (i.e. most of which is negative unfortunately), it's something I might start up again quietly and see if any connections are made on it. However, with a sh1tty type of career (i.e. Real-Estate is "okay" but everyone's doing it and it's really a more sophisticated way of saying you are unemployed or have a lump-sum min-wage type of job unless you are actually making a ton of money on it to meet up with the demands of life), and no real passion towards this aspect, and no real church involvement I sort of feel it's going to be a weak profile that will go nowhere and I'll end up losing more money.

Whether or not I like kids means nothing unless you have a great career/job with the money coming in. I was in a divorce with a child involved and it was a very nasty type of experience. With the level of trouble I can get from dealing with any woman, I'm a bit cautious because they make it like you are in a war when things go south.

Darn, keep getting that baby Yoda in my head while writing this. Anyone seen episode 4 of Mandelorian on Disney plus?