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909pua

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ok, here's the deal. i had sex with this girl (even gave her two orgasms on that day) (who comes around my job on a daily) about a week ago Fri. this is the timeline of events since then:


Sat: We were supposed to hang out to go clubbing this evening but told her I couldn't since I was stuck at a party. She ended up going to a BBQ and getting drunk that night. Text her back and forth about wanting to see her again and making her scream. After 3rd or 4th text to her, i text "your kitty taste so good, i can't wait to make you scream again", she doesnt' respond to this text.

Sun: No contact

Mon: Texted her in the morning to say "hi, good morning". she doesn't respond. Didn't see her at work today.

Tue: Didn't see her at work either, then i texted saying "didn't see you today, how are you doing?" she doesn't respond. Then after work hours, I called her she picks up and I said "what up girl, what you doing today?" She says "I'm going to my friend's son's 5th b-day". After that we had small talk and I told her "well alright have fun then, see you later"

Wed: I see her at work, she comes by to say hi. I said "whats up what you doing after work?" She says "I'm going to a friend's HS graduation at 7 pm". I said "Can you hang out today for a couple of hours after work?" She says "No, after work I'm going straight to my friend's house". I got kinda irked at this point and I told her "well have fun, i'll talk to you later".

Thurs: I see her again, and she comes by and says hi. She asks "Are you busy?" I said "yeah kind of, you know how it is." She then asks "What time are you going home today?" I said "4 pm". After that answer, I ignored her acting like an AFC reacting to her treatment to me the day before just completely looking disappointed and didn't even make eye contact with her. After 30 seconds, she left and said "Well I'll let you go".

Fri: I texted her saying "Hey i hope you didn't take me that i was blowing you off yesterday. My manager chewed me out and gave me a bad day (this was a lie)." She doesn't respond. THen around 11 pm that evening, i called her and she picks up. I said "what up girl, i am pissed off and hit a parked car blah blah blah blah". We talk for like 3 minutes. SHe sounded like she needed to go and not talk on the phone too long. SHe then says "hey you know what I gotta go, I'll call you tomorrow because I have to go to work in the morning, i have sleep". I said "ok, bye".

And that's it. Is this girl trying to play games or what?

SHould I next this girl?
 

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Just from a quick reading...it sounds like you're kinda "suffocating" her a little bit. So many texts and calls. Just remember, YOU are supposed to be the prize. This means you need to have an abundance of women in your circle, so that if one is getting flaky, you turn to another one and and stop worrying about the annoying antics of the other.
 

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909pua said:
ok, here's the deal. i had sex with this girl (even gave her two orgasms on that day) (who comes around my job on a daily) about a week ago Fri. this is the timeline of events since then:


Sat: We were supposed to hang out to go clubbing this evening but told her I couldn't since I was stuck at a party. She ended up going to a BBQ and getting drunk that night. Text her back and forth about wanting to see her again and making her scream. After 3rd or 4th text to her, i text "your kitty taste so good, i can't wait to make you scream again", she doesnt' respond to this text.
I would have called it a bust at that point.

She had low interest level in you all along, and when you got "stuck at a party" she flipped your switch to "off" ...

BTW how does a guy get "stuck at a party"?
Someone handcuff you to the bar?
 

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jophil28 said:
I would have called it a bust at that point.

She had low interest level in you all along, and when you got "stuck at a party" she flipped your switch to "off" ...

BTW how does a guy get "stuck at a party"?
Someone handcuff you to the bar?

i had no ride and i was at a party with a relative...

my friend told me to manage somehow to get her to go out with me again after things cool down and cancel on her the last minute
 

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And also i wanted to give you guys more history of me and her before we had sex, she LJBF'd me and I was able to turn it around...
 

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jophil28 said:
She had low interest level in you all along, and when you got "stuck at a party" she flipped your switch to "off" ...
Well i dont know about low interest level all along, before the sex, we were practically kickin it everyday. This is where I probably screwed up since this text i sent her i noticed her going aloof. This is the text message to her the day after sex

Me: hey i wont be able to go clubbing tonight, im stuck here at relatives party and i didn't drive.
Her: Oh that's ok, we'll go out next time
Me: Where you at?
Her: i'm with my friends getting this BBQ crunk at a party.
Me: Welll you better behave yourself or imma have to spank that ass
Her: dont worry i'll be naughty purposely
Me: damn girl, dont be talking to me like that you are getting me hard
Her: save it for later
Me: you ***** tastes so good, i can't wait to make you scream again

after this point, she didnt respond and started acting strange... so i think i ****ed up sending the last text...
 

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wow that last text did seem blunt and a little out of nowhere... She probably felt like she was just a lay to you after you said that. Have a good time with her and let sex just be the end of a great time you guys had together.
 

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Fvck with the texting.

If you want to do something with her, call her up. Otherwise texting is just an option you are giving to a low interest girl, where she doesn't have to answer you anything on the spot.

If a girl doesn't answer your call, then go out with another girl. Calling every day (and she knows you are calling) makes you look desperate in her eyes.

Never chase what is running away from you.
 

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lzn, first stop texting and calling, everyone is telling u so and is absolutely right.
mmm... i believe she is intrested in u, otherwise she wouldnt have passed by thusrday. she wanted u to ask her out that day. u didnt. u should have kept ur cool that day and made eye contact. ure not a woman, u dont run away from a woman. instead, show her ure absolutely fine and happy as usual.

anyway, now she says she will call u tomorrow. ok here lzn. first off, if she doesnt call, u dont! and if she is really still intrested she will feel a need for u in a few days and call u in a few days.
so lets say she calls tomorrow or after a week. what u should do is be don juan, u r a fun and happy person, ask bout her, how she is doing, whats new with her... tell her what u r doing.
now she's calling u, she wants to go out with u. if she asks u to go out, u accept but make sure u choose the time and day (and the place if u want, let it be some action and fun which means bowling or swimming...).

if she does not ask, keep the talk normal and fun, then when she wants to hang up (she was shy to ask u out).. as u two r saying goodbye, stop there and say:...listen, lets go (here) at (this time) this day (not this same day tho...next day is great i believe or 2 days after). she will accept.
if it happens with u that she closes the phone line before u ask her, thats where u call her again quickly and ask her out just like i said.

keep it cool and dont worry about it.
 

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And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

909pua

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you guys have some interested tips here... i have friends at work i tell this story about and some of them, i just realize now, are leading me to destruction. by hearing this from the EXPERIENCE PUAs, i feel better. thanks for the advices.

Other people are welcome also to chip in their advice.
 

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Georgey said:
lzn, first stop texting and calling, everyone is telling u so and is absolutely right.
mmm... i believe she is intrested in u, otherwise she wouldnt have passed by thusrday. she wanted u to ask her out that day. u didnt. u should have kept ur cool that day and made eye contact. ure not a woman, u dont run away from a woman. instead, show her ure absolutely fine and happy as usual.

anyway, now she says she will call u tomorrow. ok here lzn. first off, if she doesnt call, u dont! and if she is really still intrested she will feel a need for u in a few days and call u in a few days.
so lets say she calls tomorrow or after a week. what u should do is be don juan, u r a fun and happy person, ask bout her, how she is doing, whats new with her... tell her what u r doing.
now she's calling u, she wants to go out with u. if she asks u to go out, u accept but make sure u choose the time and day (and the place if u want, let it be some action and fun which means bowling or swimming...).

if she does not ask, keep the talk normal and fun, then when she wants to hang up (she was shy to ask u out).. as u two r saying goodbye, stop there and say:...listen, lets go (here) at (this time) this day (not this same day tho...next day is great i believe or 2 days after). she will accept.
if it happens with u that she closes the phone line before u ask her, thats where u call her again quickly and ask her out just like i said.

keep it cool and dont worry about it.

The thing is, i dont wanna ask her anymore, i got shot down 3 times already. she will bring it up again i know at some point. the trend is she doesn't call me but rather just visits at my workplace cubicle.
 

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909pua said:
Well i dont know about low interest level all along, before the sex, we were practically kickin it everyday. This is where I probably screwed up since this text i sent her i noticed her going aloof. This is the text message to her the day after sex

Me: hey i wont be able to go clubbing tonight, im stuck here at relatives party and i didn't drive.
Her: Oh that's ok, we'll go out next time
Me: Where you at?
Her: i'm with my friends getting this BBQ crunk at a party.
Me: Welll you better behave yourself or imma have to spank that ass
Her: dont worry i'll be naughty purposely
Me: damn girl, dont be talking to me like that you are getting me hard
Her: save it for later
Me: you ***** tastes so good, i can't wait to make you scream again

after this point, she didnt respond and started acting strange... so i think i ****ed up sending the last text...

man, stop talking to her this way! this is how u talk to a *****, not a gf. even if all u want from her is sex, a gf will blow u off when u talk to her this. it shows all u want from her is sex. even if sex is what u want from her, dont ever talk to ur gf this way.
 

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i also forgot to mention that she has an EX-boyfriend that she's been with for 4 years that she still kicks it with from time to time. I showed her i didnt really care, do you guys think he has a role in it? According to her, she said she don't want to get back with him anymore.
 

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909pua said:
The thing is, i dont wanna ask her anymore, i got shot down 3 times already. she will bring it up again i know at some point. the trend is she doesn't call me but rather just visits at my workplace cubicle.

either way, she visits or calls, u r a man, a happy and fun male. u smile to her, and stay calm.
she will ask u out. but in case she does not, before u close with her or before she goes, ask her out... since u r new to the forum, u dont ASK her out, u make a statement like this: LETS GO OUT ON THIS (date and place)!

dont forget! if she comes to see u at work u make normal eye contact and smile calmly!


ehh... since i dont come around here much, im guna have to advice u to get the DJ bible, it will help u alot! o lzn, dont read everything, coz there r of unecessary stuff in it! just read what catches ur eye from POOK threads and ANTI-DUMP! those guys r amazing and can change ur life(pook learned from anti-dump). they can make u change and become don juan!....that if u r intrested.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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909pua said:
i also forgot to mention that she has an EX-boyfriend that she's been with for 4 years that she still kicks it with from time to time. I showed her i didnt really care, do you guys think he has a role in it? According to her, she said she don't want to get back with him anymore.
dude, u dont worry bout what other guys think of her nor bout her past relationships. why? becoz u cant stop other guys from thinking of her or doing what they want to do with her. if she really wants u, she will stay with u becoz she IS INTRESTED in you. so forget bout him and think of urself instead, of u improving and becoming the guy all the girls want... why? becoz u have that charisma, that lifestyle, this mindset that u r the great person in this world that can do anything he wants!....read pook
 

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Georgey said:
either way, she visits or calls, u r a man, a happy and fun male. u smile to her, and stay calm.
she will ask u out. but in case she does not, before u close with her or before she goes, ask her out... since u r new to the forum, u dont ASK her out, u make a statement like this: LETS GO OUT ON THIS (date and place)!
But you now what, one of the days i got turned down was a situation like this. I dont wanna have to bring up something and her tell me "oh im busy all week and next week". So I think to play it safe, I'm just gonna let her bring up "what time are you going home today" or "what are you doing after work?"

I wanna stay on the safe side, otherwise she will get big headed again and tell all her girlfriends how much i want her and how i can't get her....
 

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to tell you the truth, all i want to do with this girl is just bang her brains and eat her out. I'm especially good at eating pu*s*sy so I want to do this to her, make her scream again, so she can develop an attachment to me so I can be in control again.

How do i make this seem like that's not all that i want to do but is really what i want to do with her everytime i see her? Take her out, walk somewhere, bowling, etc, and at the end of the night, do some erotic KINO that will lead up to it?

I seem to notice that if you are good at eating pu@#ssy, which not alot of guys dont know how to do (according to some girls), and you give them an orgasm each time, they tend to attach themselves to you sexually and i think this is the case with this girl because she still visits me.
 

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Okay,

I think the first mistake you made is that you sent her that pretty promiscuous text. Here's the deal, girls want to feel classy, not slutty, and especially if you just met her, you want to be a little lighter on the sex talk. That will depend on the girl more-so, but also.....

You're contacting her wayyyy too much, lay off her a bit, she should be the one contacting you.

Asian Playboy preaches the rule of three, if you try and contact her 3 times and she flakes out on all 3, you've done your job in being aggressive with her, you need to back off, give her some space.

-Kevin
 

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I have some thoughts. It goes without saying that this is friendly advice and not intended to be criticism.

When you first start seeing a girl, you are on probation. Canceling one of the first few dates is a big turn off. It's kind of like calling in sick during your first week at a job. I understand that sh*t happens, and we all accidentally overbook once in a while, but you need to be careful with that. If you explained to your buddy at the party that you had a date with this chick, he might have been willing to work with you and give you a ride, etc.

The text about eating her was way too graphic and creeped her out. Even telling her you were getting hard may have come across as needy. However, subtle sexual innuendos are ok. The text about spanking her was about as far as you should have gone. After that, it went too far. Like the other posters mentioned, it makes the girl feel cheap, like she's just a p&ssy to you. Even if she is, you can't let her know that lol.

Very graphic discussions are best saved for the following situations:

1. Extremely heated foreplay
2. Extremely heated phone s*x
3. Actually having sex

Keep the texting light on the sexual innuendo. Finally, I agree with the other posters that you texted her too much. She doesn't want to feel smothered. You did more than your fair share of trying to contact her. Sit back now. If she contacts you, great. If not, move on. Either way, consider bringing some other girls into your circle. I hope that helps.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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