should i have just got in the cab and see if she invited me in?

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so i met this unbelievably hot woman (looks liek victorias secret woman) i got a number off many months ago.. but literally few secs afterwards she rejected me cos i was too c0cky arrogant.. overplayed it. tried to be more humble this time. i got it off facebook under a different name. so i contacted her on whatsapp using a more recent pic and a change of name and she didn't remember me at all thankfully so i started from ground zero. i skillfully messaged her and suggested we get together for a drink this evening spontaneously. got the date she seemed excited all good. didn't start well she was 20 mins late even tho she told me she was gona be 10mins (she was on phone with her sister who just got engaged) also she's a bit crazy.. as in OCD and probably ADD too.. every 5 secs losing concentration distracted.. wiping the champagne glass of her lipstick.. she has def OCD.. then reapplying her lip stick.

as most typical women she knows she has a problem but believes someone has to accept her for the way she is not try to change her or try to understand her. she's so direct, the first thing she said to me was 'do you prefer me with panties or not?' when i asked her do i look better in my new glasses or not.. i didn't hear her the first time so she repeated.. i was thinking whoa i might be in luck if she so sexually forward. so later when we got drinks she wanted to move (OCD) fussy thing again so we moved to other side of bar. she asked me what i was drinking i said pineapple juice (i dont drink alcohol) and that in the carribean they use it as cleaning agent.. she said 'hmm dont they use it for down there..' i said what u mean.. 'down there' she said with a wry smile and i said oh yeah they do (basically if you drink pineapple your cumm tastes nice for girls to swallow - dirty girl) i thought this girl is very direct sexually im going to escalate the kino and make sex suggestions.. she stops me in my path and says 'you're very confident that you think it's going to happen' in a blunt way.. i sensed i overstepped the mark.. this is where my inexperience came in where i didnt' know how to react.. i kind of back tracked saying wasn't to be presumptuous.. she excused herself to go to the bathroom.

she came back we cont the convo.. i was running out of material.. i should ahve stopped her in her tracks every time she mentioned an ex.. im such a p*ssy i always let it slide not to cause conflict when i should address it there and then.. she goes on to say that she sleeps around.. as in contacts guys she knows 'are you around?' meaning come over for sex.. i thought great.. maybe i might get some if i can weasel my way into that category.. she said she has her 'friends' and guys for 'fun' she doesn't sleep with her friends and the guys she has for fun she can cos she's single..but no one night stands.. i basically agreed with her saying that's fine i wish there were more women who were direct sexually.. i explained to her she has f'ck buddies as she didn't know this terminology but then jokingly i said 'which category do you have me in?' she said ' i dont know yet' with a smile and then laughed and said 'im joking im so bad'.. i felt that was accurate as in i wasn't friendzoned yet nor i was discluded from the 'fun' category.. i tried to make a move on her kissing her neck she let me.. kino'd etc.. she kino'd me back but wouldn't let me kiss her (OCD prob.. messing up her lipstick) she's very strange. i mentioned to her that i hope i get one of those messages you send for guys to come round.

i always already pissed cos i spent $36 dollars already on 2 glasses of champagne and a pineapple juice for myself.. she lives in a rich area and insisted we go here for a drink so i knew it was gona come up to around this much but i was still p1ssed i overspent. during the convo she mentions she never had an orgasm ever and she cant.. i said i could give it a shot and started going into detail with my hands how i'd finger her.. very awkward.. almost not a sexual connotation but more a biology class lesson. anyway when we left she went to get a cab.. she invited me to come in.. i thought 'great maybe im gona get some..' but then when she sat down she said 'but where are you going to?;' this made me deliberate as in i didnt wanna spend anymore cash but in hindsight she lives down the road it wouldn't be more than 5$ i dont know why i just didn't risk it and see if she would invite me in when we got to her place.. i said 'um.. im gona take the train.. over.. hmm..' she said 'well there's a station over there..' i hesistated as what to do and the cabbie was getting pissed and we were holding up traffic.. so she said goodbye to me there and i walked off.

should i have just got in the cab and see whether she'd invite me in.. or was there no chance i'd get some tonight? maybe her anti slvt defense came in to play in the cab.. i just thought she was inviting me in when she said 'get in' or she wanted a free cab.. that was my initial thought. my game is not good enough to handle a woman like this.. she's direct.. but not necessarily being up front in regards to inviting me and i dont think i have the abilities to maneuvre my way back to hers.. when i ran out of material i kind of froze and went silent cos all my special moves were gone i tried everything i had that usually works. i really cant afford to take her out again esp with all her expensive tastes it was def just a whim to see if i could get laid tonight.. i dont know if i can be more direct sexually whens he shot me down initially when i was being presumptuous.. she really caught me out.. sh1t tested me and i failed.. i didn't know how to respond.. i just felt fvck im being too c0cky which turned her off originally and kind of back tracked looking embarassed.

she's easily in top 3 women i ever been on a date with.. bonkers but still some great sex is in store if i can do it somehow. any tips? physical atttraction is there a bit but im not 'hot' like the guys who are prob getting the calls.. im neither rich enough to afford her so im at the end of my wits. should i just be more direct with her sexually or is it probably too late.. im happy to be just one of her fvck buddies.. i def cant afford her and even if i could i wouldnt wanna be her bf.. it's almost like a holy grail.
 

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The biggest issue was when she sh1t tested me when she said 'you've very confident this is gona happen aren't you' and when I backtracked there after I held back..didn't make overly suggestive sexual suggestions. Basically turned into a pvssy afraid to play to win but played not to lose as I knew arrogance and c0ckiness was a turn off for her. I should have slipped it in there a few tims I didn't dominate things.

Also during the silence I kept forcing convo as I wasn't comfortable with silence.
 

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the biggest annoyance is knowing she prob in the cab texted one of her guys for fun 'are you around?'.. f sake man.. my frame just isn't confident enough to sustain this.. literally i was thinking 'fvck i need to do something here to create sexual chemistry without forcing it' i realize now i should have been more flirty and used sexual innuendo.
 

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That's just a high maintenance hot chick who manipulates her universe to get what she wants, always. From food to drinks to dıck. She's been doing this for years, since her early teens and is a pro at it. As hot as she is she's crazy to match it. The OCD shined through brightly. She most likely did call up a bang buddy for some dıck action. Question is, do you really wanna be another dıck provider she summons when horny? That's the man's job.
 

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I think...
She is young. Age doesnt matter. She is immature. ( I am dealing with a very similair situation)

Yes.You should have got into the cab. Without question. This, despite everything else that happened, was definaitly a way into her realm.

The good news is she likes you. The bad news is she has no idea why or what she actually wants. You were MR. Right now. I think you blew it. Sorry.

You can recover if you actually want to. Conquest only though. There is literaaly no chance of LTR here.

HUGE signs of BPD. Even in your short descrptiton. She is obviously nuts and immature. You were of your game BECAUSE of this. You havent dealt with enough crazies yet. You got Pvssy tunnle vision.

Real advice: I would see if you can Friend Zone her and make her a winggirl. I think its your only chance at anything. Having a nutty girl that will accompany you to a public place is better then noting and that still leaves you with the 5% chance of a f^ck on a lonley night.

Sorry man. At least you laneded the date when others couldnt, right?
 

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VladPatton said:
That's just a high maintenance hot chick who manipulates her universe to get what she wants, always. From food to drinks to dıck. She's been doing this for years, since her early teens and is a pro at it. As hot as she is she's crazy to match it. The OCD shined through brightly. She most likely did call up a bang buddy for some dıck action. Question is, do you really wanna be another dıck provider she summons when horny? That's the man's job.
Actually at this point yeah, I mean I have no other plates (yet) and she is hot as hell, like literally top 3 women I've ever got the chance to meet, she literally looks like a victorias secret model with body to match.

I don't really care if other guys are f'ing her as long as I get my share too, obv I'd get annoyed if I'm not the one called up but then hey that's something I have to deal with if I want to get into something like this.

The sex would be spectacular with her I can tell, all her ex's are obssessed with her still..god knows why they're still pursuing a crazy OCD chick I'm just not going to spend my cash and then if I'm not getting sex after and knowing she's calling up some other dude.

Even if I get to f her just once for novelty reasons I'd be satisfied, she has amazing real blow job lips like angelina jolie, look fake but actually are real. Boobs are fake tho which is an added bonus.

Do you think I 'should' have gotten in the cab and see if she suggested I come in or was it pretty clear I wasn't going to get any sex even if she was horny? It is f'ing annoying she prob called up a guy for sex but then hey I want to be that guy so I can't be a hater.

I have other new dates to meet this week so that should make me less desperate, not as hot as this one tho in fairness esp one of them but I knew wht I was getting myself into.

In future, how should I react when a woman sh1t tests me when I'm getting presumptuous about sex 'you're very confident that it's going to happen' she said bluntly and not in a good way more a you're being a bit arrogant.. How should I react if I accidently get myself in that scenario again?

My dilemma now is I can't afford to take her on another date she'll rinse me for dinner or champagne something silly so my only option is to suggest to bring a bottle over with the risk that she may decline and does not bracket me as guy for 'fun' I imagine those guys are just hot and for sex when she is single, everyone else is for attention or free meals drinks depending on income.
 

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salinechow said:
I think...
She is young. Age doesnt matter. She is immature. ( I am dealing with a very similair situation)

Yes.You should have got into the cab. Without question. This, despite everything else that happened, was definaitly a way into her realm.

The good news is she likes you. The bad news is she has no idea why or what she actually wants. You were MR. Right now. I think you blew it. Sorry.

You can recover if you actually want to. Conquest only though. There is literaaly no chance of LTR here.

HUGE signs of BPD. Even in your short descrptiton. She is obviously nuts and immature. You were of your game BECAUSE of this. You havent dealt with enough crazies yet. You got Pvssy tunnle vision.

Real advice: I would see if you can Friend Zone her and make her a winggirl. I think its your only chance at anything. Having a nutty girl that will accompany you to a public place is better then noting and that still leaves you with the 5% chance of a f^ck on a lonley night.

Sorry man. At least you laneded the date when others couldnt, right?
She's not young I suspect she's 30, wrinkles already developing a bit.

I should have just stopped being a cheap bastard and tight and just gotten in, it literally was only min charge of 5 bucks if that, literally up the road and round the roundabout walking distance. But it was -1C outside and she was wearing super high heels so high maintenance gets a cab.

I just was elated like 'wow she asked me to get in the cab I'm gona get laid' to a sudden 'where are you heading to?' Question which threw me off. Either way I should have got in even if nothing happened and gotten the cabbie to drop me off down the road.
 

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I really dont understand OP...

he seems horny/desperate as hell. He complains he spent too much money on her (huh? take her to a cafe instead...). He did not put her on a pedestal, he put her in the Kilimanharo already.

For God's sake, just go find another woman that is not that manipulative, and is way more "normal". Besides you say she is very hot, ok, the hotter she is the less effort she's gonna put to satisfy you sexually.

You're gonna get more pain if you follow this path with your current mentality...
 

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If she has OCD and ADD it just not worth it. If you must have her, go ahead and bang her but move on quickly.
 

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pyros said:
I really dont understand OP...

he seems horny/desperate as hell. He complains he spent too much money on her (huh? take her to a cafe instead...). He did not put her on a pedestal, he put her in the Kilimanharo already.

For God's sake, just go find another woman that is not that manipulative, and is way more "normal". Besides you say she is very hot, ok, the hotter she is the less effort she's gonna put to satisfy you sexually.

You're gonna get more pain if you follow this path with your current mentality...
It's not that simple man, she has OCD and ADD very difficult, control freak needs things her way plus also I've been told to always go for drinks not cafes for dates, issue is in her area which she refuses to go anywhere else is all expensive places, nothing cheap.

She's a complete nymphomaniac hyperactive crazy can't keep still, if she's riding a c0ck she's riding it hard, to satisfy her fair enough not you but still she's riding it hard.

The question still remains how was I supposed to react when she shot me down initially? 'You're very confident it's going to happen' in a blunt you're being arrogant tone.

I literally backtracked didn't apologize but said was being presumptuous. I'm going to make suggestions to bring a bottle to hers but I suspect I'm either approaching the friendzone or she wanrts me for dating long term (she doesn't know I can't afford to take her out anymore)
 

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RangerMIke said:
If she has OCD and ADD it just not worth it. If you must have her, go ahead and bang her but move on quickly.
I'm not gona marry her I just really wanna pound her for novelty reasons just once even. I just have no idea how to be that guy in her 'fun' category as in while on a date do things which disclude me from both the friendzone and also the 'dating zone'. The guys who she keeps for fun don't take her out, they f her and leave perfect scenario.
 

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well she messaged me at 12 today on whatsapp thanking me for a wonderful night.

her: i had a wonderful time yesterday, thank you very much ;))

i thought ok, this isn't necessarily high IL just she wants to see my IL i thought it's xmas eve i should up the ante with the sexual invite

i messaged back on whatsapp: you're welcome. have a great new years eve..im going to a house party tonight but much rather spend it in bed with you playing whale and dolphins ;) (i'm the whale you're the dolphin haha)

(the whale and dolphins was an in joke she brought up from last night about a whale mating with a dolphin to produce a hybrid.. she went on and on about it.. im not sure the exact details of whether the whale did it consentually or raped the dolphin.. if that's what she meant then i can see why she hasn't replied..) the bit about her being a dolphin is because i commented on her nose being like a bottle nose dolphin.

no reply. see i thought well if she's so direct and being sexual saying she has these guys for 'friends' and these guys for 'fun' if im going to be in the latter category i have to make sure the topic of talk is sexual.. if she thinks im 'dating' her as i originally intended till i found out how she is then obviously what i wrote may be a bad move.. either way it's new years eve.. if she had high IL she'd have responded positively right (unless of course i made an error and the whale sodomized the dolphin and that's what she has taken from it)?
 

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She sent me a photo saying happy new years 2015 on whatsapp around 10.30pm I don't know if it was a broadcast list message that's sent to everyone or just to me.

I said thanks and happy new year to you too, she sends back ';) thank you'

I'm not sure if I should press to meet up or ask what she's up to now, new years eve is the night for sex but I don't know if she's expecting me to suggest it and her messaging me is just a hint. I'm second guessing this too much.
 

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You ain't shagging this girl so I'd let it go if I were you. If she wants to shag you'll know about it. Ie she'll make that crystal clear and you won't be posting here.
 

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