Hey Young Stallion,
yeah thanks for the reply. Yeah, we're probably not too far apart in the looks department and such.
With regard to my type, my tastes have changed to favor Asian girls (or even better part Asian part White) but also find Middle Eastern (too difficult though), or Latin American girls attractive as well. For some reason I'm no longer attracted to American women (they seem to be less cultured although not all, less ambitious, tend to let themselves go, put on weight too easily and start looking old faster...). I'm also late 20's and can friend women of any age, but am only really attracted to the 18-25 range now. That's part physical but I feel girls over 25 are always talking about their past relationships and how they're looking to settle down be less adventurous, etc... too old for xyz... Like I missed out on the good part and they're someone else's leftover, major turn off. My point is I find girls that go clubbing are the ones full of energy and are looking to have fun not becoming boring and let themselves go.
And on a good night I've come close - a few months ago for example. I found a Thai girl maybe a 7.5 - 8 (and I've never rated any girl more than 9.5 even celebs) at the club, said hi talked to her a little, tried dancing with her (didn't ask just started being touchy), she wasn't so into it, so I walked away hung out with my friends. Came back a little later saw her again then really started dancing with her and she was into it at that point. Then she said she was going to the bar to get a drink, but I gently took her hand to go with her (even though I was unsure if she wanted me to), but she seemed to be receptive. I bought her a drink and we started making out - she initiated it. Then bought her a rose as the they walk around selling them and took note of us I guess (kinda cheesy but I was a bit tipsy and it was kind of automatic). But through all this her friend was in a bad mood and we were still hand in hand heading to the coat check as if we could have left together, her friend yanked her away and I didn't bother to follow as I didn't want to deal with the drama... Without the **** blocking I think I'd have a decent chance. oh well. Ironically I may have lost another opportunity about a week ago, was at a really classy bar (more mature place) and managed to infiltrate a pack of 3 girls (1 chinese-american, 2 Thai) and naturally started conversing with the c-a one, but the Thai one (which was actually the hottest of the group maybe an 8) asked where I lived and if I could give her a ride home. I hesitated a few seconds to think logistics (since I was driving 3 of my friends - who later said they would have gladly taken a cab for me given the situation) and by the time you could count to 1 and half seconds she rescinded and said "I think I'll just get a cab with my friends". I was driving a Mercedes that night and everything (which she didn't know), but I probably could have set the mood and had a 50/50 shot... But I didn't peruse her too much because I viewed the c-a girl as possible dating material (if I took her friend home for a ons, I'd loose that opportunity). The c-a agreed to lunch but I'm still waiting to hear back from her on the logistics, wish me luck guys.
But that story aside, I think I'd agree that clubs isn't the best place to meet women (classy bars more so but the women tend to be older then me, again turn off). But I disagree that these are a different type of women. I think the girls you meet in the library and such also like to go clubbing, it's just better to meet them in say another situation where a guy like me with strengths in the brains, career, culture & travel and humor departments can shine a little better.
So let's not necessarily associate the types of women with the types of places for a second and maybe focus on the types of men and which places they can shine the best at.
1. Guys that are 8-9 in the looks department or are driving a $100k+ car and wearing a top notch Rolex may do best at a club.
2. Guys that are funny, established, good career - maybe a classy bar.
3. Guys that are very charming and the most clever at conversation, maybe a library, coffee shop, etc...
Somebody should look into this a bit more and put it in one of the books or something. Not sure if that's covered in the game. But I'm suggesting maybe guys should go to the places where they can best exhibit their strengths. I mean Seal would have never landed Heidi Klum on his looks at a club, but put him in a setting where he can perform his music... You get my point.
I'm in grad school now, which I thought would be a great opportunity but find there are very few women that are single here and attractive and while there are a couple I've already ended up in the friend zone with them. The undergrads are a different story, but I think you have to be careful how you approach them when you're not the same age (some of my friends pull it off without a problem though).
On another note, my friends seem to be very good with women. Most have slept with dozens and one is mostly likely in the 100's by now (based more on his charm then looks). One of my closest friends has had a long list of girlfriends say 5 - 6 relationships several of which lasted for a few years but he said he doesn't have the guts to approach women he lets them come to him (and do they ever he's been with several model types). He say's I'm great at approaching them and talking and wishes he could be (yet he's succeeding and I'm not, I really don't get it).
