Short Men: Why Women Aren't Attracted Enough to Date Them

[manfrombelow]

What explains why these current people under 30 are so much taller than my age bracket?

Don't know about the West, but in Asia, the most likely answer is nutrition. People now are able to eat better than their parents and grandparents.

 

[typical]

A couple of generations of good food, healthcare, and a after lifestyle has caused many immigrant ethnicities to reach their genetic potentials which they hadn’t been able to previously.

Well look at what was done to Black Americans over the last few centuries, they took mediocre stock and bred them into being leaner meaner and stronger workhorses for the farm labour they were purchased for ............... fast forward today and boom they are massive in all sports !!!

I've got centuries of Viking blood in me, hence why I'm good in water based sports BUT even then we didn't breed people for a specific goal like they done in Slave generation America !!!

 

[typical]

I don’t think men are looking for the magic solution or have the inability to focus. Men all know success requires time and effort and hard work.

The problem lies is when men get there, the hot 19 year old virgins aren’t waiting for them. The older divorced women in their mid to late 30s or older are waiting for them. And that’s no good.

This is where men are lost and lack ambition and motivation. The girl gave it up to the proverbial Chad at 16 and now he has to wait for several months when she is older and less attractive to get the same thing. On top of that she will likely want commitment with the option to get paid out if she wants of that commitment Not worth it.

Personally I think if women had to be virgins before marriage with no option to destroy the man in case of divorce, men would be a lot more motivated.

My counter to this is that I also was getting sex frequently in my teens I started at 14 simply because my North European genes allowed me to grow taller and broader by the time I hit 14. Went through a rough "Brainwashed" patch in my late teens early 20's were things dried up a bit.

What we need is more mature masculine men teaching our young lads how to be proper men from an early age so that they can be successful at any point in their life because if you look at women and their daughters you can see that they are conditioned into using their feminine skills to get what they want from a very early age !!!.

We've had nearly 3 generations that have been raised by their mothers and these men don't have a clue about life and women at ALL, hence the outrage and anger and excuses for "I'm bald" "I'm fat" "I'm short".

This is what needs to be fixed !!!

 

[I_have_BDE]

Don't know about the West, but in Asia, the most likely answer is nutrition. People now are able to eat better than their parents and grandparents.

At the same time our population in the US is a lot fatter than 25 years ago!

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Yes they are. Women seem to be done with effeminate men. I do frequent two OLD platforms and more and more my matches are getting younger - several I’ve met in person said “finally a masculine man!” Whether or not we ended up in the sack.

That’s my experience anyway.

The hipsters are on their way to the exit.

 

[Bigpapa]

Most really hot girls I see are not and don't go for masculine men. They go for good looking "boys" who match what they see on social medias. Or men with money, who can afford to pay for everything.

It always was the case

If you think about it, military guys are very masculine but yet they have one of the worst dating life out there

Being masculine is mainly about not supplicating and having your own journey, not whatever most people think

 

[I_have_BDE]

Most really hot girls I see are not and don't go for masculine men. They go for good looking "boys" who match what they see on social medias. Or men with money, who can afford to pay for everything.

When i was in college, university level 2011 to 2013 thr cute girls a lot of them were with the skinny guys, you know video game, video production majors, into anime, hipster stuff. Not fat lazy video game guys but the soy boy hipster types. Again, division 3 school so no 6-3 athletes. Most men normal size. Large urban area private college.

sucks I was too busy with studying and taking it seriously. I was in my late 20s, bit older but everyone thought I was younger. It wasn't a party school as well and less fat girls. I kick myself for not socializing more and going to functions. Probably easily could got an hb 7.5

 

[DonJuanjr]

I'm unapologetically masculine.

Can you go into detail about what makes you unapologetically masculine?

 

[DonJuanjr]

And I sure don't apologise for my masculine traits.

What do you consider masculine traits?

 

[DonJuanjr]

Which are you curious about: hegemonic, complicit, marginalized, and subordinate masculinities?

All

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Not my experience while I was serving and certainly not my experience since serving. It’s also not niche, women like men who are leaders, strong, capable, in shape, confident, dangerous and clean cut; all things that a veteran can be and often is.

I don’t have to even identify myself as such, people often ask. I’d say most well adjusted women are attracted to the attributes listed above. Many have thanked me for my service to my country, serially…

In any case I’m seeing a change, may not be the case elsewhere, but it is here.

It always was the case

If you think about it, military guys are very masculine but yet they have one of the worst dating life out there

Being masculine is mainly about not supplicating and having your own journey, not whatever most people think

 

[Crissco]

Ill shine in one this since im 5'5, 5'6...Yes it is harder, but I never had an issue. I had sex with about 150 women in my 20s, given I was muscular / athletic, but i also carry myself well with confidence. All of my dads side of the family is 6'0 plus, tallest being 6'6 so thats the world i grew up in, I act like im 6'2 personality wise and how i walk(most of the time except on days im feeling down)...It also comes down to the woman feeling safe around. you. Ive had a lot of women tell me how safe they feel around me. They know I will fight anyone no matter the size IF NEEDED. So im sure that aura helps me out.

One thing i noticed its getting worse in the past 5 years. I was in a relationship for 4 years, got back on tinder and bumble and not getting as many matches as i did 5 years ago when i was single.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

There’s no having a discussion about this because it’s a positive for those who have served and most here have not.Therefore, the group will tear it down as untrue or irrelevant. Never mind most of the kids here where brought up to believe that soldiers are just white guys that want to kill brown people in the desert - and therefore it makes their precious little heads blow up to think those evil guys could be attractive to women, when they themselves aren’t.

It’s much like all the skinny-fat dudes refusing to start working out and getting jacked, they don’t want to so they start the whole “women don’t like jacked physiques” discussion line.

Frankly? IDGAF what these kids think - I can only relate what my experience is and sometimes how I got to this place. I hope some of my posts have even helped ONE man here to understand.

No matter how effeminate society becomes, capable masculine men in authoritative uniforms will always be attractive to women. Combat veteran, airline pilot, secret service agents... And since much of that is in the attitude, most women recognise the combat veterans out of uniform as well.

Even with the transient life in the professional military, most professional soldiers have no trouble finding women and binding them to them, and that won't change in a hurry.

 

[BadBoy89]

im 5'5, 5'6...

I had sex with about 150 women in my 20s,

150 women / 10 years = 15 women / year

15 women / 12 months = 1.25 women / month

You slept with a new woman every month for 10 years with your height? I don't think Leonardo or Brad could do that in their heyday.

We got some serious players in here.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

That’s not out of the question if you’re doing hookups. Like not remotely, now sustaining it for 10 years? Well that’s up the the man. In my 50’s I’d say I average close to 10 new lays a year…some years better some a little worse: 9/2023 I’ve got 10 under my belt.


Why is this such an affront to you?

Is this the part where you say they’re all warthogs?

150 women / 10 years = 15 women / year

15 women / 12 months = 1.25 women / month

You slept with a new woman every month for 10 years with your height? I don't think Leonardo or Brad could do that in their heyday.

We got some serious players in here.

 

[Crissco]

150 women / 10 years = 15 women / year

15 women / 12 months = 1.25 women / month

You slept with a new woman every month for 10 years with your height? I don't think Leonardo or Brad could do that in their heyday.

We got some serious players in here.

Look at my post history for a couple of year ago, I was actually hesitant to post in this thread since there are way to many non believers and incel losers on the forum now a days. Anyway, no big deal, you can believe what you want. 1 woman a month is NOTHING, especially when online dating was booming 5-8 years ago. Also fyi no not everyone everymonth. Sometimes its was two in one day

 

[SargeMaximus]

I’m 6 feet on the nose and going through quite the dry spell. Had sex 26 times this year which is more than last year but still. Terrible compared to years pruir to then

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

I'm 6'3" and have been rejected by a 6'0" female because she had a 6'5" minimum requirement. I kid you not. Does she know how many men are 6'5" or taller? Gonna be a long wait.

AND she has to be competitive in that race as well, most women are not used to competing for a man's attention except the ones that always win, women don't handle rejection like men do.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Look at my post history for a couple of year ago, I was actually hesitant to post in this thread since there are way to many non believers and incel losers on the forum now a days. Anyway, no big deal, you can believe what you want. 1 woman a month is NOTHING, especially when online dating was booming 5-8 years ago. Also fyi no not everyone everymonth. Sometimes its was two in one day

Yes, there was a time when you weren't even reprimanded and could get laid off a single D pic, where as today you'll be banned and possibly added to some name/shame forum that exists, they literally have a forum on POF where women post pics of 'Creepy Dudes' and have lookout lists.

 

[Crissco]

Yes, there was a time when you weren't even reprimanded and could get laid off a single D pic, where as today you'll be banned and possibly added to some name/shame forum that exists, they literally have a forum on POF where women post pics of 'Creepy Dudes' and have lookout lists.

Yup exactly, 2013-2014 was prime, this was before tinder had paying tiers, I would swipe on 1000 woman in like 5 minutes with an app called tinderoid. Got so many matches from using that app it was crazy. I also used POF, okcupid, you name it I was on it. Also, I didnt have a steady job at the time so my whole day was focused on collecting numbers and getting laid. It literally became an obsession