Short Men: Why Women Aren't Attracted Enough to Date Them

[Slowhandluke]

Women are attracted to men who have sorted themselves and know their value, regardless of their appearance.

Agreed. Fashion trends change throughout the years and based on regions. At certain times in history, women like guys in bell bottoms, guys that wear jeans, guys that wear high heels (during the Renaissance), fat guys (different eras in china), skinny guys (Korean boy bands), etc...

HOWEVER, regardless of the fashion they're will always be the top 10% percent of men women go bonkers for.

Please Master Miyagi, define what a top 10% means for all of us.

Easy. Line up 10 men. On average, 1 out of those 10 men will be chosen by the majority of women as being in the top 10%. I don't choose the top 10%. Women do. These men are mostly the ones getting all the sex, the relationships, etc.. if you are getting a lot of sex, congratulations you are most likely part of this group. If you are not, you are mostly likely not the 10% of men who women are most attracted to.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Agreed. Fashion trends change throughout the years and based on regions. At certain times in history, women like guys in bell bottoms, guys that wear jeans, guys that wear high heels (during the Renaissance), fat guys (different eras in china), skinny guys (Korean boy bands), etc...

HOWEVER, regardless of the fashion they're will always be the top 10% percent of men women go bonkers for.



Easy. Line up 10 men. On average, 1 out of those 10 men will be chosen by the majority of women as being in the top 10%. I don't choose the top 10%. Women do. These men are mostly the ones getting all the sex, the relationships, etc.. if you are getting a lot of sex, congratulations you are most likely part of this group. If you are not, you are mostly likely not the 10% of men who women are most attracted to.

https://medium.com/@worstonlinedate...ably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a.

Maybe it’s top 20%.

 

[Hal9000]

I'm 6'3" and have been rejected by a 6'0" female because she had a 6'5" minimum requirement. I kid you not. Does she know how many men are 6'5" or taller? Gonna be a long wait.

 

[I_have_BDE]

During ww2, the average height of the typical soldier was 5'8". During the Renaissance was probably 5'6".

It's not about total height, it's about height relative to other men in the same time period. The 10%'ers.. average women, want only the "best" men while in the past, they were OK with going out and dating average men.

My dad was a Nam vet. He was about 6-0 but slim, lean muscle. The guys back then in the photos were nowhere near as jacked or as tall as they're today. Today they'd be called stick figures since most men and women are heavy. I mean they were in shape, but smaller bone frame and very lean. They didn't look like they incredible hulk on roids like they do now in the military. That seemed to start in the mid 80s.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Lets say I have barely any sex, how can I become a top 10% of guys?

That's not the right question. The right question is "how can we make more men (especially the average ones) have more sex and relationships?"

If you just want to be in the top 10% of guys, you just need to replace a top 10% guy, with yourself. Be warned, its not easy. These 10% guys are 10% for a reason - genetics, the right connections, superior social skills.... etc... heck, even people don't agree what attributes makes up a 10% guy. What we do know is that women chase these guys.

In all honesty, being in the 10% of men is hard. These men are mostly smart and tough. It's like an average girl asking how she can be a "stacy" because Chad is not giving her the LTR commitment. The average woman can try, but Stacy is Stacy for a reason. Not impossible... but not realistic for most people.

 

[I_have_BDE]

All those pumped up Schwarzenegger muscles are not going to help you much in physical combat.

That's what most of them have now in the military, especially marines and army

 

[MatureDJ]

Godamn! I'm 5ft8 bald but in Very good shape. Big muscular build, I do not look weak.

Guess it's game over for me lol

It's OVER for ShortGymCels.

 

[MatureDJ]

You can do all of that, but if you still aren't in the top 10% of men, it doesn't matter.

It's like telling average women to dress better, act more sexy, be more "attractive". If they do all of this, they will get an exclusive LTR with the top 10% of men. Sorry average girls, the top ten percent of men are usually reserved for the top 10% of women. Collectively, nothing that the average woman can do will make the majority of them have LTR with the top 10% of men. Its mathematical impossible. It's a zero sum game. The average woman will lose. Same with the average man.

Obviously, you have no idea what the term "harem" means.

 

[vman]

Hey short guys
Iam 168cm, 170 wearing shoes, I weigh 80kgs (muscle bulk but not ripped) and I guess iam good looking, I never have problems attracting females or being in relationships, so don't think because your short you can't pull, and iam talking about good looking women with option's, just make sure if your short you workout!!!

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Hey short guys
Iam 168cm, 170 wearing shoes, I weigh 80kgs (muscle bulk but not ripped) and I guess iam good looking, I never have problems attracting females or being in relationships, so don't think because your short you can't pull, and iam talking about good looking women with option's, just make sure if your short you workout!!!

My height as well. But I'm about 70kgs. The key to your success is, as you say: "I guess I am good looking." It's not that you work out. It's your face. Our heights are dreadful. But looks override that.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Obviously, you have no idea what the term "harem" means.

Harems are not stable. There is a tendency for the average man (who don't have women) to gang up with other average men and kill the owner of the harem.

Besides, in a society, the best family structure is one man and one woman raising a family. When one man has multiple wives (never mind harem), his kids does not get his full attention. It is divided by the multiple wives and kids. And the infighting between different wives and their offspring

 

[MatureDJ]

Besides, in a society, the best family structure is one man and one woman raising a family. When one man has multiple wives (never mind harem), his kids does not get his full attention. It is divided by the multiple wives and kids. And the infighting between different wives and their offspring

Of course monogamy is the best - that's why human societies had developed it early on. However, monogamy requires the combination of control of young female sexuality and a social zeitgeist that shames young women who rebel against it (e.g., by burning them as witches, etc.). Those days are OVER.

 

[MatureDJ]

Hey short guys
Iam 168cm, 170 wearing shoes, I weigh 80kgs (muscle bulk but not ripped) and I guess iam good looking, I never have problems attracting females or being in relationships, so don't think because your short you can't pull, and iam talking about good looking women with option's, just make sure if your short you workout!!!

Are these chicks fat?

 

[MatureDJ]

All those pumped up Schwarzenegger muscles are not going to help you much in physical combat.

It could in very close combat.

 

[I_have_BDE]

No disrespect, but men grouped together tend to get into physical competitions, whether it's armwrestling or lifting weights. This is most obvious in prison, where many inmates take to exercise to kill time and stay healthy (or just be an impressive ****er in case you need to lean on someone). The military is another group that consists mostly out of men and so it stands to reason that they're going to compete.

I trained in close-quarters combat and the more dangerous guys were the scrappy ones.

Then why were they so small back then? Not just the US, but the brits and the German soldiers were also not ripped 6-3 chads like they're now you see. I think roids play a part too.

Even baseball players in the 60s were nut juiced up like they're now.

 

[I_have_BDE]

Sure, but it's also a cultural change and a situations change. Nam was a lot of jungle fighting where being wiry and light on your feet would be better than built like a tank. From my experience, the most impressive fighters don't look physically impressive.

Ww2 as well. Men in general will not bulked up until the 1980s. Just like women were not fat as well. Look at photos and that from the 1950s.

I'm wondering if gym equipment and roids do play a role. Didn't have as many gyms back then. Today it's easier to workout.

 

[typical]

You can do all of that, but if you still aren't in the top 10% of men, it doesn't matter.

It's like telling average women to dress better, act more sexy, be more "attractive". If they do all of this, they will get an exclusive LTR with the top 10% of men. Sorry average girls, the top ten percent of men are usually reserved for the top 10% of women. Collectively, nothing that the average woman can do will make the majority of them have LTR with the top 10% of men. Its mathematical impossible. It's a zero sum game. The average woman will lose. Same with the average man.

Granted some "average" man can break through and become part of the top 10% of men, but then another man must leave the top 10% of men category. Zero sum game where collectively trying to be better does not improve the whole segment of average men.

You basically will have the same number of "winners and losers".

Then give up and stay an average loser for the rest of your life as self improvement and getting a better life and relationships with women is too hard for you because "All the women want a top 10%" man.

I've been here since 2005, I've slept with about 20 women on average each year over the last 20 years or so.
I started off as a young teen lurker on the forums with heavy "Oneitis" for this chick in school. No outlook on life and only my workaholic old man as a proper male figure in my life. Caught up in the late 90's and early 2000's metrosexual revolution of "Real men wear pink" and other rubbish psych crap.

Today I'm 39 I've represented NZ in multiple sports at World Championship level and could have easily been in winning America's Cup teams, I have dabbled in steroid use to gain the upper edge on my competition during the off season. I own my own construction and software development company and I'm in a semi LTR with a 28 year old nursing grad.

Yes I'm 183cm tall (just under 6 foot I think) and no where near to being a "Top 10% Man" !!! BUT I've outworked my competition and my siblings and I'm worth a decent amount today. Went from a lost 17 year old to a proper "Man" with his head screwed on right in just over 2 decades ....... not bad eh ???

I've met pessimistic people like you my entire life ... the type of person filled with "Yes but" and bullsh!te excuses and theories galore.

Success takes time and effort and a solid work ethic and self belief and self discipline, something too many people lack and THUS will remain failures !!!

If I can do it from the a$$ end of the world why cant you ? You're all looking for a magic solution or excuse to cover up your own lack of a particular skill or inability to focus on the long term goal !!!

The SoSuave "System" and advice from proper "Men" that you might know in real life WORKS.
As I've said countless times before the "System works" the Man is the only thing that might fail due to his inability to focus.

 

[BadBoy89]

Maybe it's time to stop reading psychology today magazine.

Who said I was reading psychology magazine.

I googled “How to attract hot women not being 6’1.” That was the first link that popped up.

 

[MatureDJ]

Then give up and stay an average loser for the rest of your life as self improvement and getting a better life and relationships with women is too hard for you because "All the women want a top 10%" man.

I've been here since 2005, I've slept with about 20 women on average each year over the last 20 years or so.
I started off as a young teen lurker on the forums with heavy "Oneitis" for this chick in school. No outlook on life and only my workaholic old man as a proper male figure in my life. Caught up in the late 90's and early 2000's metrosexual revolution of "Real men wear pink" and other rubbish psych crap.

Today I'm 39 I've represented NZ in multiple sports at World Championship level and could have easily been in winning America's Cup teams, I have dabbled in steroid use to gain the upper edge on my competition during the off season. I own my own construction and software development company and I'm in a semi LTR with a 28 year old nursing grad.

Yes I'm 183cm tall (just under 6 foot I think) and no where near to being a "Top 10% Man" !!! BUT I've outworked my competition and my siblings and I'm worth a decent amount today. Went from a lost 17 year old to a proper "Man" with his head screwed on right in just over 2 decades ....... not bad eh ???

I've met pessimistic people like you my entire life ... the type of person filled with "Yes but" and bullsh!te excuses and theories galore.

Success takes time and effort and a solid work ethic and self belief and self discipline, something too many people lack and THUS will remain failures !!!

If I can do it from the a$$ end of the world why cant you ? You're all looking for a magic solution or excuse to cover up your own lack of a particular skill or inability to focus on the long term goal !!!

The SoSuave "System" and advice from proper "Men" that you might know in real life WORKS.
As I've said countless times before the "System works" the Man is the only thing that might fail due to his inability to focus.

If you're telling the truth, you are a GigaChad.

 

[MatureDJ]

Who said I was reading psychology magazine.

I googled “How to attract hot women not being 6’1.” That was the first link that popped up.

Wow someone could be in the category and still mog me by over half a foot.