She stopped initiating contact after 3 months of dating

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I texted her on sunday so after 7 days telling her that it is better to not see each other anymore and wished her good luck. I lost interest.
This is a lie. I recommend you to be honest with yourself first, you can lie to members in this forum, but you shouldn't do it to yourself.

The real reason you texted her to end things, was because the anxiety was eating you inside, you couldn't handle her distance after you being "so great to her with those great dates", you should date somebody to give, not to expect any kind of loyalty of reciprocity.

Now, she picked up that you texted her because you couldn't handle the anxiety of not hearing from her. Most men are like that, women are masters of detecting that $hit since they get bombarded with messages of desperate guys. Another thing gives it away is that you're counting the days that she hasn't texted you, and lastly, a person who doesn't really care about the other one, doesn't need to "hey I'm texting you to end things, don't call me okay" cause if you were having so much fun with her, the only thing that she did "wrong" was giving you distance, and if you really didn't care for her, you would have ghosted her or being very indifferent when she texts you.

I doubt you can pick things back up with her after this. Live and learn my friend, you're young and ahead of most men by just being in this forum. Good luck
 
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You said it yourself she was good to you, you enjoyed spending time, having sex etc, when she asked for a bit more effort, why not make that effort?
This is bad advice, women don't think like men. He was taking her to great dates, and I guess paying for all of them, what more effort does he need to make to a girl of 4 months? And if a girl with whom I'm having fun ends things with me for only the sin of "not initiating often" she gave me the best gift, dodging a big fvcking bullet.

Sorry to whomever asked if she cooked and cleaned for you? Good lord, she's a woman you're dating and banging NOT your maid. Or your wife! Lol
She's certainly not, but good girls give without expecting anything in return, they have their life in order. Making a meal or helping him clean his house to the guy you're having fun with, its something that sets them apart from plate forever to girlfriend material, they don't think like a bunch of feminist do, doing something nice for a man is bad. Sorry to tell you, but if you keep thinking like that, you'll be another plate forever. Are you a feminist?

I'm female by the way
Yeah I figured
 
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Sorry to tell you, but if you keep thinking like that, you'll be another plate forever.
I've never been a "plate" in my life, and never will be but appreciate the warning.

Also read posts. She complained he wasn't texting enough, she needed a bit more effort, she even cried to him about it.

What does he do? Nothing. He ignored and continued to "keep frame" as you preach with his once a week calls.

He lost the girl.

Nuff said..
 

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Why would a plate (which by definition is a low quality woman who most probably has multiple guys she has sex with and doesn't take more than 1-2 dates to add new guys to the roster) act the way you describe for a random guy like OP? If he were a celebrity/millionaire, then what you say would begin to make sense.
By not acting like a robot. Having a personality, making things intriguing because he is in fact, intriguing; being confident in being himself with her, outcomes being irrelevant because he is secure in himself. All this adds up to laying the pipe with authority, which is extremely important but can be overcome by being confident.
 

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He lost the girl.
Every day there is a new girl turning 18, so its no big deal.

Btw, a word of advice, you're not the first girl who joins a forum full of guys and then start to stir drama between members, not saying you are, but be aware
 

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Btw, a word of advice, you're not the first girl who joins a forum full of guys and then start to stir drama between members, not saying you are, but be aware
There is no reason why a contrary opinion should cause drama, I'm certainly not here to cause drama and my responses were to the OP, you chose to respond.

But thank you for the advice, I'll keep it in mind when posting. :D
 
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This is a lie. I recommend you to be honest with yourself first, you can lie to members in this forum, but you shouldn't do it to yourself.

The real reason you texted her to end things, was because the anxiety was eating you inside, you couldn't handle her distance after you being "so great to her with those great dates", you should date somebody to give, not to expect any kind of loyalty of reciprocity.

Now, she picked up that you texted her because you couldn't handle the anxiety of not hearing from her. Most men are like that, women are masters of detecting that $hit since they get bombarded with messages of desperate guys. Another thing gives it away is that you're counting the days that she hasn't texted you, and lastly, a person who doesn't really care about the other one, doesn't need to "hey I'm texting you to end things, don't call me okay" cause if you were having so much fun with her, the only thing that she did "wrong" was giving you distance, and if you really didn't care for her, you would have ghosted her or being very indifferent when she texts you.

I doubt you can pick things back up with her after this. Live and learn my friend, you're young and ahead of most men by just being in this forum. Good luck
This ^^^

Our OP got his feelings hurt and then lost any shred of respect from her by sending a whiny text like that, which makes it obvious that he in fact was anxious about her lack of outreach and was thinking about it A LOT.

Folks. Always consider the consequences of any action or inaction. Understand that doing nothing is in fact doing something. Furthermore, always consider how any action or inaction will be percieved by others and consider how it will reflect on you.

Maturity will come as you learn to master the above.

OP is much too concerned about this girl; he has given her much too much power in his psyche. Let it all go, learn & move on.
 

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That is an irrelevant, off topic unnecessary insult that contributes nothing to the discussion. Furthermore it's untrue. I was there; you were not.
I didn’t expect it to land softly but it’s not an insult, off topic, untrue, or noncontributory.

You have mentioned many times that your first husband had significant character flaws including inability to employ himself effectively or raise a family, or control his vices. You speak of him as an inferior and nobody here would disagree.

You speak now of your husband as immature, unfocused, subordinate and that he moved in with you, and that he knows where the bread is made and who makes it.

The reason this is relevant is because you counsel men here on the virtues and importance of alpha men while you diminish the value of your own husband and the one prior.
 

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Our OP got his feelings hurt and then lost any shred of respect from her by sending a whiny text...
I'm lost, what "whiny" text did he send? Would someone clarify?

He wrote this (below) in his initial post

I haven't texted her for a week know since our last date so see if her behaviour would change, but still no text.
She had complained she needed more effort (more texts in between dates) he did nothing.

Neither did she.

Ĥe texted later and ended it.

Yes, i just told her that we shouldn't see each other any more and wished her good luck.
Where's the whiny text?
 
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At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

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I didn’t expect it to land softly but it’s not an insult, off topic, untrue, or noncontributory.

You have mentioned many times that your first husband had significant character flaws including inability to employ himself effectively or raise a family, or control his vices. You speak of him as an inferior and nobody here would disagree.

You speak now of your husband as immature, unfocused, subordinate and that he moved in with you, and that he knows where the bread is made and who makes it.

The reason this is relevant is because you counsel men here on the virtues and importance of alpha men while you diminish the value of your own husband and the one prior.
My current husband has ASD. He is an "Aspie". So are many successful alpha men. He heads a global team in tech for a Fortune 500 company, makes a solid 6 figure income, is an elite level athlete in an adventure sport, is an elite level skier as well, is tall, fit, stylish, very intelligent and extremely handsome. Does he struggle some socially because of the ASD? Yes he does. At dinner last night one of my friends and I were laughing about the adventures of being married to the spectrum. Her husband is a very handsome man who happens to be one of the top cardiac surgeons in our region...and also on the spectrum.

My husband is the furthest thing from a whiner imaginable, and I share openly here about some of the struggles that arise from the spectrum. That doesn't make him any less "alpha".

Perhaps you are not aware of the history with my first husband.

My first husband was a very successful nightclub owner running the most popular and well known venue in a city famous for nightlife when we met, dated, and married. His business partner was a friend he grew up with and knew since he was 10. The father of the friend and my first husband's father flew fighter jets together and were elite instructors for the military. My first husband's father was the pilot; the friend's father was the backseater. When the boys were 12 a low altitude training accident happened. The wing tore off the fuselage and the plane immediately flipped and spun. The friends father punched out a split second before my first husband's father, whose emergency eject trajectory sent him into the ground. The friend's father survived. The wing was found 3 miles away from the fuselage and the maker of the jet settled with my first husband's family.

Those two men had a strong bond (or so my first husband believed). My first husband had been through a tragedy losing his father; had seen the legal battle to do with responsibility, and had built himself into a successful businessman in spite of all that. THAT was who he was when we married. He NEVER saw the friend's treachery coming because they had known each other so long and been through so much.

After my first husband and I were married and expecting it became evident that the friend was mismanaging the books at the club. The ensuing business fiasco was ugly and my first husband was screwed out of the business in a very shady deal. My dad (a bad ass attorney) forced the partner to fairly compensate my first husband as the dust settled, but he never recovered from the betrayal of that friend/partner. He became depressed, lost motivation etc., but it wasn't that way when we married. He didn't drink at all when he had the club; thought it was bad form. Because he wasn't that way when we married I kept trying to help/be patient/encourage/etc. I thought he would pull out of it (the depression etc.) but he never did.

So take your potshots as you wish @Divorced w 3 but understand you are taking things entirely out of context.

Obviously I divorced my first husband as a result of his behavior after it became obvious there was nothing else I could do, and I was not going to let the example of how to be a man stand for my children by staying.

The truly salient thing is that my son has developed into an alpha male himself. He was in leadership at his ROTC unit in college, has commissioned as a military officer himself, has gotten married to his high school sweetheart, they are expecting, and he has already started building wealth. He is respected everywhere he goes and amongst his peers and his elders. He following in the footsteps of his grandfathers, and sees his father's life as a cautionary tale.

He is 22. His wife is 21.

So if I've been able to raise a solid young man with the same principles I promote here I'd say my contributions might have some weight.

Very few here share as transparently as I do. No relationship is perfect and people all have their flaws. I share so others may benefit from my life experiences.

If you think that deserves ridicule? By all means please proceed.

Again. I was there. You were not.
 
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I'm lost, what "whiny" text did he send? Would someone clarify?

He wrote this (below) in his initial post



She had complained she needed more effort (more texts in between dates) he did nothing.

Neither did she.

Ĥe texted later and ended it.



Where's the whiny text?
Yea i texted her and told her that it is better to not see each other anymore.

Here is the exact text i sent:

“hey it is my turn to send a long paragraph but luckily it is the only one i will send .

i have told you in the beginning that certain behaviours of yours would only push me further away from you and cause me too lose interest.

and i have reached the point that it is enough for me.

i think it is better to not see each other again.

i wish you good luck in the future :).”

Did i care about her? We had fun, had good talks, so yes of course i was invested in some way into her because we spend the last 4 months together. That is normal.

But it is not that i am crying or anything lol. Just wanted to learn and understand why it ended like this and how to prevent it in the future

I just wanted to clarify things and end things on a good note.

i dont want to see someone who doesn’t put in the effort. It is about respect for me.
 

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Bottom line, you're incompatible.

She needed more effort from you (which she asked for) YOU needed more effort from her.

That's called a "stalemate," ending things was for the best.

Life goes on.
 

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Yea i texted her and told her that it is better to not see each other anymore.

Here is the exact text i sent:

“hey it is my turn to send a long paragraph but luckily it is the only one i will send .

i have told you in the beginning that certain behaviours of yours would only push me further away from you and cause me too lose interest.

and i have reached the point that it is enough for me.

i think it is better to not see each other again.

i wish you good luck in the future :).”

Did i care about her? We had fun, had good talks, so yes of course i was invested in some way into her because we spend the last 4 months together. That is normal.

But it is not that i am crying or anything lol. Just wanted to learn and understand why it ended like this and how to prevent it in the future

I just wanted to clarify things and end things on a good note.

i dont want to see someone who doesn’t put in the effort. It is about respect for me.
And now that you got the ‘last word’, do you feel any better?
 

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My current husband has ASD. He is an "Aspie". So are many successful alpha men. He heads a global team in tech for a Fortune 500 company, makes a solid 6 figure income, is an elite level athlete in an adventure sport, is an elite level skier as well, is tall, fit, stylish, very intelligent and extremely handsome. Does he struggle some socially because of the ASD? Yes he does. At dinner last night one of my friends and I were laughing about the adventures of being married to the spectrum. Her husband is a very handsome man who happens to be one of the top cardiac surgeons in our region...and also on the spectrum.

My husband is the furthest thing from a whiner imaginable, and I share openly here about some of the struggles that arise from the spectrum. That doesn't make him any less "alpha".

Perhaps you are not aware of the history with my first husband.

My first husband was a very successful nightclub owner running the most popular and well known venue in a city famous for nightlife when we met, dated, and married. His business partner was a friend he grew up with and knew since he was 10. The father of the friend and my first husband's father flew fighter jets together and were elite instructors for the military. My first husband's father was the pilot; the friend's father was the backseater. When the boys were 12 a low altitude training accident happened. The wing tore off the fuselage and the plane immediately flipped and spun. The friends father punched out a split second before my first husband's father, whose emergency eject trajectory sent him into the ground. The friend's father survived. The wing was found 3 miles away from the fuselage and the maker of the jet settled with my first husband's family.

Those two men had a strong bond (or so my first husband believed). My first husband had been through a tragedy losing his father; had seen the legal battle to do with responsibility, and had built himself into a successful businessman in spite of all that. THAT was who he was when we married. He NEVER saw the friend's treachery coming because they had known each other so long and been through so much.

After my first husband and I were married and expecting it became evident that the friend was mismanaging the books at the club. The ensuing business fiasco was ugly and my first husband was screwed out of the business in a very shady deal. My dad (a bad ass attorney) forced the partner to fairly compensate my first husband as the dust settled, but he never recovered from the betrayal of that friend/partner. He became depressed, lost motivation etc., but it wasn't that way when we married. He didn't drink at all when he had the club; thought it was bad form. Because he wasn't that way when we married I kept trying to help/be patient/encourage/etc. I thought he would pull out of it (the depression etc.) but he never did.

So take your potshots as you wish @Divorced w 3 but understand you are taking things entirely out of context.

Obviously I divorced my first husband as a result of his behavior after it became obvious there was nothing else I could do, and I was not going to let the example of how to be a man stand for my children by staying.

The truly salient thing is that my son has developed into an alpha male himself. He was in leadership at his ROTC unit in college, has commissioned as a military officer himself, has gotten married to his high school sweetheart, they are expecting, and he has already started building wealth. He is respected everywhere he goes and amongst his peers and his elders. He following in the footsteps of his grandfathers, and sees his father's life as a cautionary tale.

He is 22. His wife is 21.

So if I've been able to raise a solid young man with the same principles I promote here I'd say my contributions might have some weight.

Very few here share as transparently as I do. No relationship is perfect and people all have their flaws. I share so others may benefit from my life experiences.

If you think that deserves ridicule? By all means please proceed.

Again. I was there. You were not.
I was waiting for you to reference your son. Whatever you did with the hand you were dealt, you did a great job and taking a lesson from you on parenting in a total rebuild would be something I would be interested in reading any day. Please tell him that some d1ckhead on the internet thanks him for his service to our country.
 

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I was waiting for you to reference your son. Whatever you did with the hand you were dealt, you did a great job and taking a lesson from you on parenting in a total rebuild would be something I would be interested in reading any day. Please tell him that some d1ckhead on the internet thanks him for his service to our country.
When he is thanked for his service he always says:

You're worth it.
 

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I'm lost, what "whiny" text did he send? Would someone clarify?

He wrote this (below) in his initial post



She had complained she needed more effort (more texts in between dates) he did nothing.

Neither did she.

Ĥe texted later and ended it.



Where's the whiny text?
“hey it is my turn to send a long paragraph but luckily it is the only one i will send .

i have told you in the beginning that certain behaviours of yours would only push me further away from you and cause me too lose interest.

and i have reached the point that it is enough for me.

i think it is better to not see each other again.

i wish you good luck in the future :).”

Here it is. Texting this to a woman who clearly moved on is whiney at BEST.

It's a big what if whether more effort would turn into better results..I agree with @New_Journey that a woman needs to show some form of effort. As you see all of the things he described were free things such as cooking cleaning ect..small gestures that will enlighten our hearts.

You really try your best to speak " our language " so my advice to you is don't be insulted by this. We don't want a "slave or a maid" but we do know we will have to pay most of the time and more importantly: if another man is threatening you we might have to put out life on the line to protect you. So all we ask in return are simple gestures. And bigger ones like loyalty and love.


We can speculate all we want , at the end if the story she didn't liked him like that and she went Casper on him. He'll learn to deal with it.
 

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He is an "Aspie". So are many successful alpha men. He heads a global team in tech for a Fortune 500 company, makes a solid 6 figure income, is an elite level athlete in an adventure sport, is an elite level skier as well, is tall, fit, stylish, very intelligent and extremely handsome.
This sounds like you're trying to convince yourself that you married a winner.

I were laughing about the adventures of being married to the spectrum.
You making of fun of your husband for having a condition says a lot about you, you appear having a successful life, but a wife who respects her husband won't fun of him, and much less with another female. Congrats, you married a trophy hubby so you can present him to everyone like he's the Chad with all the great qualities, but in reality is an outcast of society with zero social skills, you are the equivalent of a male millionaire who marries a trophy wife cause she's hot, but in reality she is a retard.

hey it is my turn to send a long paragraph but luckily it is the only one i will send .
Cringe

i have told you in the beginning that certain behaviours of yours would only push me further away from you and cause me too lose interest.
What behaviors did she do in the beginning for to communicate that?

and i have reached the point that it is enough for me.
Not hearing from her for 1 week put you in a spiral haha wtf

But it is not that i am crying or anything lol.
Why not? Clearly you fell in love with her, do you think crying is shameful? Or you want to appear stringer than you really are?

Just wanted to learn and understand why it ended like this
You ended it, you ended cause you couldn't handle the anxiety of not hearing from her. Its good that you end it, she needs to find a strong man.

i dont want to see someone who doesn’t put in the effort.
Again, she made the effort, she went out with you. She just gave you distance and you crumbled like a house of cards, then sent her that whiny text

It is about respect for me
For people to respect you, you gotta be worthy of respect. A guy who can't wait more than 7 days from a girl to reach out to him doesn't deserve any respect whatsoever
 

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Yea i texted her and told her that it is better to not see each other anymore.

Here is the exact text i sent:

“hey it is my turn to send a long paragraph but luckily it is the only one i will send .

i have told you in the beginning that certain behaviours of yours would only push me further away from you and cause me too lose interest.

and i have reached the point that it is enough for me.

i think it is better to not see each other again.

i wish you good luck in the future :).”

Did i care about her? We had fun, had good talks, so yes of course i was invested in some way into her because we spend the last 4 months together. That is normal.

But it is not that i am crying or anything lol. Just wanted to learn and understand why it ended like this and how to prevent it in the future

I just wanted to clarify things and end things on a good note.

i dont want to see someone who doesn’t put in the effort. It is about respect for me.
Not sure what the purpose of that text is but it makes you sound butt hurt simply from feeling like you needed to send that text.
 

Create self-fulfilling prophecies. Always assume the positive. Assume she likes you. Assume she wants to talk to you. Assume she wants to go out with you. When you think positive, positive things happen.

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