she showed interest, she is cold and hot, anti-slvt defense is stopping us

[hop On hop Off]

udpate

Just ran into her. She is avoiding me. I said hi to her with a smile, she was caught off-guard, she didn't know where to look. And then quickly ran away. Oh you silly duck, I am just saying hi.

She dressed nicely. I sense danger whenever a girl does that, it leads to one thing---trying to get guys. This is the only thing I am scared of right now.

This is the thing I see. You persist, for she will surrender, but while doing so, she takes your persistence as a currency to boost up her MV.

Despite how much she avoids me, tells me she's not going out with me, she enjoys my attention---that someone cares for her in the house. In fact, I don't think she will move out early.

She keeps on neg-ing me, and that keeps my interest high. But one day, I will lose patience. One day, I will drop her. She will regret, she will come back crying. It will be all too late.

 

[Alvafe]

are you a ****ing retard?

you want to win this game? find another girl who are interested, woman like male attention even more when you give it for free, so drop her now and move on, before she call the cops on you.

course you can be trolling and trying to see if any newbie fell for this, then youa re more annoying then you look.

 

[hop On hop Off]

Just delete her number. She is dropped.

Thanks SS. Time for me to focus on important things.

 

[hop On hop Off]

She moved out

I got home, found out she moved out today. So quietly. The same shoe rack is now empty. Those kitchen ware are on the shelf, as if you will come back.

Not a word of bye. I actually saw you yesterday morning.

SoSuave, was I really a threat to her? Was she really scared?

You know I was being quite nice to you. I brought you to museum, church, shopping(you didn't come). If you were indeed scared, I'd rather have you walk all over me. If you are not scared, then why don't you even dare to look at me in the eye.

Some of you will call me AFC, and press me to forget NOW. But how many of you can let go of loved ones without pain. Let that person be your gf, parents, or relative.

Anyways, she is gone, let her be gone. I came, I saw, I conquered. I KINO and escalated. I have no regrets, but your childish thinking. What you've done is self-inflicted wound, but girls never think logically.

I know you are caught off-guard by my ways. You ran away. AFC is not supposed to be scary, you know that.

Goodbye, may your life be an exciting journey. One day, you will realize you lost a great guy. You will come back, just like many of my high school friends before you.

But I ask them: where were you when I was chasing you so hard?

 

[LiveYourDream]

I got home, found out she moved out today.

Not a word of bye. I actually saw her yesterday morning.

Was I really a threat to her? Was she really scared? You know I was being quite nice to you. I brought you to museum, church, shopping(you didn't come). If you were indeed scared, I'd rather have you walk all over me. If you are not scared, then why don't you even dare to look at me in the eye.

Some of you will call me AFC, and press me to next NOW. But how many of you can let go of loved ones without pain. Let that person can me your gf, parents, or relative.

Anyways, she is gone, let her be gone. I came, I saw, I conquered. I KINO and escalated. I have no regrets, but your childish thinking. What you've done is self-inflicted wound, but you never think logically.

I know you are caught off-guard by my ways. You ran away. But, wouldn't you like to have a AFC?

Goodbye, may your life be an exciting journey. One day, you will realize you lost a great guy. You will come back, just like many of my high school friends before you.

But I ask them: where were you when I was chasing you so hard?

As I see it:

Your View: You thought you were being an ultimate DJ with game, pursuing and escalating.

Her View: She thought you were being a creepy housemate stalker!

She felt that you made; every smile, conversation, pass in the hall, closing of her door, not freaking out when your hands touched, to then be SIGNIFICANT MEANINGFUL indications that she was into you.

She wasn't into you! You were projecting! She was just being a housemate! Your obsessive view of her every move WAS CREEPY to her!

You continued to pursue and be creepy even after lots of indications to back off from her and advice here.

You would be well served to practice seeing "what is actually occurring" for others, as opposed to projecting. Truly engaging a woman is far more than a series of steps to mechanically follow.

 

[hop On hop Off]

it hurts

LiveYourDream,
Would you have added your housemate on snapchat or whatsapp if you know he was stalking you?

Would you delete him immediately after you move out?

You are right, it's all me. I live in this illusion, I created a bubble, I lived in that bubble. Who cares that I slipped a paper under her door, who cares she added me on whatsapp right away.

She has nothing, I have everything----from cars to friends. She's new here, I am not. But I didn't care.

In the real world, we belong to two different leagues. I will never talk to you. You are lucky that we are housemates. I have already stepped down to approach you. You don't have what it takes to reject me. You know it.

I am not the bravest soul. I indeed stopped when the other poster told me she could call the cops on me. I didn't even care if that is true.

Anyways, I am shocked that she left without a word. Without a bye to me!?!? You let me find out by asking others, by wondering why your lights are off.

She must have felt good hurting me this way. Real good. But I ask her: what good does it do to you?

 

[hop On hop Off]

goodbye message and a story I heard

Just message her through chat, wishing her farewell and good luck. Let's see if she defriends me, replies me, or no response. I will report back.

I think the awkwardness begins at home when you live with your plate. We see each way too much.

Knowing the other person lives down the hall, and you can find them every night, removes all the chemistry. She has moved out. In a way, this is good.

This has been a rough week.

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bf chasing gf story
I had dinner with other housemates. One girl was talking about her bf of 7 years. He chased her for 3 years in college. He asked her out Freshman year, she was shocked. She ran away, never talked to him, always scared to see him. But they are in the same major, so throughout college, she had to run into him.

She said she was ready graduate, and apply to grad school. The guy applied to all the school in the state she applied to. lol. She was touched, she called him to meet up and talk. When he arrived, she said she changed her mind. The guy was crushed, told her they should just be friends. She agreed, and they began holding hands. They went out for 4 years until he recently died in an accident.

Conclusion
If you really like your plate, and don't mind being AFC. You will get the girl. I don't endorse it, but for the oneitis and desperate, this is an option.

 

[VikingKing]

Hip hip off. Your best bet is to let it go, and starting meeting and spending time with more than one woman at a time.

This will help you not appear so desperate, and also you will be able to more easily tell the difference between interest and disinterest. When you see an interested one, you try and have sex with her.

A woman who is interested in you will make it easy for you, and desire to be alone with you.

 

[hop On hop Off]

saw her for the last time

She came back to pick up everything else in the house. Every time I see her, it's a scar in my heart.

So, I came home late with my housemate. She was home. Almost done moving her stuff, ready to take off. I saw her shoes in the rack, I thought "dam, she's back, what am I gonna do? I thought I won't see her EVER again. Don't do this to me."

She was saying last min words to the landlord at the living room. I made my way to the living room to get food, maybe I should avoided.

Part of me was wondering what will happen if we see each other? But I already know the answer.

She saw me coming to the living room from the front door. She looked away, she was nervous. She walked back to the living room. I was nervous. I walked back to the door. My housemate was confused. lol.

I thought "I won't ever see her again, whatever, I'm gonna go in". So, I made my way back to the living room, she was walking out from the living room toward the door. She did not look at me. She has a nervous look on her face.

Yesterday, I left a message to her saying bye. And asked why she didn't even say bye. Today, she sees me, does not say bye.

I want her to give me a nasty look, so I know she hates me. I wouldn't mind apologizing for my mistakes. But, all I got was avoidance.

I want to feel guilty. I want to think that I am the reason you are moving. But, all I got was avoidance.

I do not know what you are thinking, though I have good guesses. I just want to communicate with you. But you gave me avoidance.

What does the word "avoidance" mean? I don't know. I will never find out, perhaps that's your game, perhaps that's how you keep me as an orbiter.

Goodbye now, good luck. Perhaps we will see each other next life time!

 

[hop On hop Off]

Hip hip off. Your best bet is to let it go, and starting meeting and spending time with more than one woman at a time.

This will help you not appear so desperate, and also you will be able to more easily tell the difference between interest and disinterest. When you see an interested one, you try and have sex with her.

A woman who is interested in you will make it easy for you, and desire to be alone with you.

It is always easiest to next and spin plates. You don't get hurt. You avoid any responsibility.

But remember, relationship takes time and effort. Maybe that's why there are many divorces today. We give up easily, we spin plates, we leaves others hurt, we only care about our own interest. My feelings is the only thing matters. That is not right.

Call me an AFC if you want. I help others. I try to put others' interest before mine. I believe that if you help someone, they will help you. Love comes around and goes around.

 

[LiveYourDream]

The quicker you choose to move out of "playing victim," the quicker you are back in your power, and your life is your own again.

Drama Queen, Victim, Powerful Male...Choice is yours.

 

[hop On hop Off]

The quicker you choose to move out of "playing victim," the quicker you are back in your power, and your life is your own again.

Drama Queen, Victim, Powerful Male...Choice is yours.

HAhahah, I love you, bro. No matter what I say, you can always put a negative spin on it. That's all good.

 

[LiveYourDream]

HAhahah, I love you, bro. No matter what I say, you can always put a negative spin on it. That's all good.

I am simply holding a mirror, to give you the opportunity, to see yourself and your actions more clearly. If you see it as negative, consider that as insight into yourself.

 

[hop On hop Off]

she replied on chat

Few hours after she completely moved out. She replied me on on chat, telling me, she just saw my message from yesterday, thank you and wish you the best.

No defriend. I thought my action was severe. She should avoid me like a plague.

I am not gaming, because it is over, or at least I am the underdog. But I will play devil's advocate for my curiosity, and how will this play out? Where do I stand to her exactly. What is she thinking? It's a silly question, but her action will tell me her mind.

I know I am acting "normal", I'm not gaming, not spinnin'. I am tired right now. I want to just be myself. I want to enjoy some good days without thinking too much.

I going to have AFC behavior, but I am also going have a backbone. I will say no. I will show love, but I will not let her walk all over. I will just be myself. These things are mutually exclusive---being one does not affect the other.

All in all, I am happy, and I don't regret. I think that's enough to ask for. Thank you for everything!

 

[hop On hop Off]

I am simply holding a mirror, to give you the opportunity, to see yourself and your actions more clearly. If you see it as negative, consider that as insight into yourself.

I don't know if I can agree "playing victim." I gave a lot while chasing her, some here called me AFC.

I expressed my feelings. I can hide from you, but can't hide from myself. If it's there, I will say it. It's more important to recognize that vulnerability, and face it with confidence. That's the way to improvement.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

J
bf chasing gf story
I had dinner with other housemates. One girl was talking about her bf of 7 years. He chased her for 3 years in college. He asked her out Freshman year, she was shocked. She ran away, never talked to him, always scared to see him. But they are in the same major, so throughout college, she had to run into him.

She said she was ready graduate, and apply to grad school. The guy applied to all the school in the state she applied to. lol. She was touched, she called him to meet up and talk. When he arrived, she said she changed her mind. The guy was crushed, told her they should just be friends. She agreed, and they began holding hands. They went out for 4 years until he recently died in an accident.

Conclusion
If you really like your plate, and don't mind being AFC. You will get the girl. I don't endorse it, but for the oneitis and desperate, this is an option.

This is the absolute worst advice anyone could have given you in this situation. It was a woman? How is this not a surprise. She was trying to make you feel better, rather than giving you solid advice.

Read through your three threads: You have to learn a very important word------>Calibration. Be aware of your surroundings, and act accordingly.

You are not in the friend zone, you are in the creep zone. And it is well deserved.

But remember, relationship takes time and effort

There was no relationship to begin with. Every time you tried to interact with her, you just further repelled her, rather than further attracting her. She's not the one for you. Judge by actions. This chick despises you. Next step restraining order, then jail.

 

[BraddH]

So, this is the girl I went to the museum with last week.

We touched each other's hand while exchanging things. Next day, we were out, I took her hand in my car, tried k close. She avoided k close. But she let me hold her hands firmly in the car. She took her hand back when we got back to the house.

I have escalated, but I see her leaving my car with a guilty face. She immediately messaged me she will be busy, can't go out anymore. It's the anti-slvt defense. How do I break that?

Few days ago, A guy housemate wanted to go shopping. I will be the driver. He asked everyone. She said yes.

Today, the guy backed out, leaving 2 guys 2 girls including me and her. The girl is suddenly not coming. I think she doesn't want to be too close to me.

So, a housemate decided to ask her again. Then, I decided not to walk over, but to call her. I called 3 times. It was a bad move.

How should I ask her out again? I am confident she is interested in me, but she is feeling guilty with her anti-slvt defense.

I dont understand what the **** you are trying to say with your shattered stupid heart.

But still, i did understand something like she didnt want to come whenever you were coming. I might be wrong. But if this is the case, move on. Either she wasnt interested or was way too shy to open up to you. In both cases you cant do anything than tell her: if you dont want anything with me, I understand. Then you dont need to contact her again, and go hit other girls. Anything else you try to do to win her will just repell her away.

 

[hop On hop Off]

This is the absolute worst advice anyone could have given you in this situation. It was a woman? How is this not a surprise. She was trying to make you feel better, rather than giving you solid advice.

Read through your three threads: You have to learn a very important word------>Calibration. Be aware of your surroundings, and act accordingly.

You are not in the friend zone, you are in the creep zone. And it is well deserved.

A few of you has used words similar to creep. I am quite offended. By that, do you mean I am showing too much love? Going too far?

The friend does not know about me and my plate. Have you read my later posts, specifically the ones right before this one.

Judge by actions. This chick despises you. Next step restraining order, then jail.

Are you an undercover cop? I am always paranoid about to posting here. You know restraining order goes on your record, right? Let's not joke here.

 

[BraddH]

^^

OP, you must understand that when you push something way too much, you are pushing it away.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

The friend does not know about me and my plate.

I had dinner with other housemates. One girl was talking about her bf of 7 years.

So this housemate didn't know that you were "dating" the other housemate?

Have you read my later posts, specifically the ones right before this one.

This one?:

She replied me on on chat, telling me, she just saw my message from yesterday, thank you and wish you the best

Yeah, that's her way of telling you to get lost. She didn't tell you in the house because she didn't have bodyguards around her.

Are you an undercover cop? I am always paranoid about to posting here. You know restraining order goes on your record, right? Let's not joke here.

You doing a troll job?