she called me twice just now, dont know why. didnt answer. what to do?

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When women don't know something they speculate, and that speculation feeds their curiosity and drives them crazy (or crazier). You become a drug to them. If you easily give them what they want you are no longer a drug and they don't crave you. You should not give 100% accurate information. You disguise the information in a way that makes them want more of it.

Her "You have girlfriend..."
You "Can't text right now busy fondling breasts."

Her "You have girlfriend..."
You "You forgot the s"

Her "You have girlfriend..."
You <no response which leaves her in turmoil>

damn... you're right! i was trying to figure this out last night before i sent it, but i gave 100% accurate information instead of disguising it in a way that would make her want it more.. noted. i'll remember this if it ever happens in future.

giving the 100% accurate info just satisfies her attention craving and her curiosity will have been fulfilled now i guess since i said 'no i dont have a girlfriend.'?

i know her last ex cheated on her with other girls so i think she has a complex.

the thing is i cant hide behind this persona and pretend that she's suddenly interested, she's not.. for the 2 'dates' we had she didn't show me an ounce of proper interest.. just seemed to rather play with her phone and have a text convo with her friends. after dropping her off she blew a kiss at me and i drove off. then she texted me an hour later that night asking if i got back ok. she just wants to see if she still has me that's all.

i will not contact her again only respond if she contacts me first.
 

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Dude you're thinking about this way too much, like someone else said it's not rocket science. There is no fool prove plan for you to get in this chick's pants. You're also way too outcome dependent so what if you lose this girl, like take your balls out of your fanny pack and get on with your life, talk to other girls. Like you're putting this p#ssy on a pedestal. Also like another person suggested it feels like you're walking on eggshells and I guarantee that is how you are going to come across to her. Piss her off, who gives a phuck. She already said that nothing is going to happen with you two so your already at 0 you can't do any worse only better.
 

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The fact that you're only taking advice with how many "green dots" someone has boggles my mind, btw.
 

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PHAT Rabbit said:
I totally disagree with this...texting is great when done right. The problem is not many men actually know how the fvck to text. I've gotten many dates off of texting girls...it's easy as fvck too.
Look, I'm not saying I've never gotten a date via texting. However, that's about the only thing I'd use texting for. The problem with most of these guys is they want to use texting for everything else - i.e. building up her interest, regular communication - and they end up shooting themselves in the foot.

That's why I keep saying "texting KILLS relationships." Guys end up communicating with these girls too much, revealing too much, saying the wrong things, and looking too desperate and available. They need to learn how to not be so available and to communicate with girls via talking and/or seeing them in person.

Plus, asking for a date via text just makes a dude look like a chicken. Like the OP said at one point, he gets nervous and wants to text her so he can pre-think about what he's going to say. Problem is, he can't do that on a date - but since he has no practice actually talking to her on the phone prior to said dates, he's probably coming across as nervous and awkward on the dates as well since he can't pre-think out what he's going to say like he did with her when texting.

Anyway... and, to the OP, it's really, REALLY not this hard. If the girl likes you, she'll contact you and find reasons to hang out with you; if she has low-to-no interest, you'll get excuses that result in her NOT spending time with you. Find a girl with interest, and I promise you she won't be doing all this stuff. I mean, c'mon - would a girl who likes you say she's NOT going to kiss you?? She just told you indirectly she doesn't see you in that way - you should be thanking her for not dragging it out!
 

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Just tell her you were too busy fvcking to answer her...that should at least be good for a laugh with the response she gives
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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Young Juan said:
You care too much. You playing not to lose when you should be playing to win. Give it your best shot and laugh it off if it doesn't work. If it doesn't work, it doesn't necessarily mean you did anything wrong either. Every b!tch is replaceable.
TRUE and
MARMEL75 said:
Just tell her you were too busy fvcking to answer her...that should at least be good for a laugh with the response she gives
YES
 

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I ask girls out all the time over text and it hasn't had any ill effects. I meet them in person, lean back, act cool, then strike like a viper when they come within striking distance...

The prey of the best predators never see them coming until its too late...
 

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yeah you guys are right, i have severe oneitis and it's due to my lack of options and inability to get new options easily.

if i had options i wouldn't be as desperate and overthinking all of this. that was my goal yesterday before she called me. instead of sarging in the mall yesterday with my buds i spent the whole time fretting about what to say/send later and inadvertently c0ckblocked myself from approaching. the priority is getting new girls not retaining something which probably wont happen. major faux pas.

im ok in person on a date IF she shows some interest, otherwise i panic.. im just nervous on the phone, had it since i was a child, gotten better recently but that's just cos im C+F as it's the only thing i know what to do otherwise i supplicate.

anyway she's not interested, it was made pretty clear.. there may be a possibility with all this frustration of me walking away sooner than she thought that i can make this happen but i anticipate she'll flake once she knows i've agreed to a time or place. therefore i will not meet her again unless she's inviting me to her place for drinks and phones are off. i will make it hard for her to get me to agree to anything.

last thing i want is if im over there and shes on the phone again, i'll have to get up and leave.
 

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Harry's right. I've been telling you guys that texting kills relationships for years.

All this preaching about "I use texting very effectively" mostly indicates that men have no idea how dangerous it really is.

Nothing under the sun has more potential to ruin things with a woman than texting. In the hands of a man who knows how to use it (like myself, I humbly note) it can be very effective. I use it sparingly, and with the precision of a surgeon. Even then, there is the risk of starting a wildfire that you can't put out. You're dealing with a woman's perceptions and interpretation of what you text, not to mention her mood of the hour, so once the genie is out of the bottle you just end up observing the smouldering embers if it goes bad.

Finally, you should be too busy with life for texting. You should position yourself as accommodating her if you text her back, like you're doing her a favor. She should perceive you as too busy to be texting.

Why? Because excessive texting turns you into her girlfriend. It makes you common, just like all her girlfriends who she chatters away with all day about nothing. You need to avoid being lumped into that pile of vapid female chatter.

If you ever find yourself discussing anything serious at all, you need to stop in your tracks. For a man, texting should be like a sniper who only has 10 bullets. Each one is of extreme value and MUST hit its mark. Every shot must be made deliberately with as much certainty as possible that it will accomplish its purpose. A sniper carefully loads the rifle, observes the wind and temperature, makes his calculations, and fires at the exact right moment. Each shot REVEALS HIS POSITION, and he might well have to move to a different location to rtain invisibility.

Let me repeat that, because I know that flew over some heads:

Each shot reveals his position.

You are a mystery. You are formless and largely invisible. She LOVES to wonder where you are and what you're doing. When she pictures you sitting in a chair with your legs curled up, typing with your big fish stick fingers into that tiny, "cute" little keypad, it's not a good picture.

You're a man who deals with the business of life. You don't have time to sit around texting women. Texting is a women's pastime and is nothing more than a representation of her dull, boring mundane life. Women lead amazingly boring lives and a big part of her boring life is tapping away in inane, meaningless conversation with her equally boring friends.

Don't put yourself in that pipeline.
 

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I've posted on this subject in your other threads about this girl, and imo I would just flat out ignore her for a while other than a text here and there if she texts you first. She plays games with you, that much has been proven. And you have so far proven to be incapable of playing those games right back at her.

Therefore, your only real course of action is to just disappear for the most part. That way A) you can't screw up and B) it gives you a slight chance to prove to her that you have moved on and are over the entire thing, which gives you the frame back.

So I suggest no phone calls. If she texts, text back with short, relaxed, no drama sentences. And don't get into a texting war with her. Just one or two and leave it alone. Then, after a period of time, if she more or less says "lets go sexing" you can reevaluate and go from there. Don't think about or obsess over the girl either. Pretend she is gone from your life. That way you cannot be disappointed. Find other girls to date as well. If you can get this one, you can get others.

Treat it like this. "Sun Tzu: If your enemy is superior, evade him. If angry, irritate him. If equally matched, fight, and if not split and reevaluate."
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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I disagree...I've had women I've been texting tell me to come to the house and fvck them having never spoken to them or met them before. Clearly getting them turned on and horny via text isn't hurting me...
 

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Weezy man remember YOU are the most important thing in your life.

YOU are #1
YOU are the one that needs to be satisfied.

This is not about making her happy (and never will be) this is about you finding something you are happy with. If you are happy she will be happy or you need to dump her arse, plain and simple.

What would I do? I would still communicate with her (because sex with crazies is awesome) but just take it very light hearted dude. Don't take anything she says seriously. Definitely don't take her anywhere you think she is capable of causing a scene at. Girls like that are usually satisfied if you just invite her over or go see her. Hang with her and don't even act like you like her, BE INDIFFERENT! Eventually she is going to become desperate for your approval and bang you. Be cool fool!

Remember make the stupid mistakes when you are young so your game is tighter when it matters. I would make a point of hanging with this psycho.
 

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Hi.
Sorry to be kind of rude but, this guys is nuts. Or he may just have some part of his brain not working properly.

THIS GIRLS HAD SOME intereset the first second she met you. After that second she got to know you and the tiny attraction she felt vanished inmediately. And you just keep destroying it over and over. Seriously, everything you do you kill it more. Someone said your at 0 now, in my opinion you're at -5. Change please.

Just stop. Forget this woman, that DOES NOT LIKE YOU, REALLY DOES NOT LIKE YOU, and go meet some other girl.

BUT, you should really change the way you think (quite difficult btw), because if you keep it the way you do now, you're gonna end up totally frustrated and banging your hand. You CANT BE thinking over and over every little detail, every word, every gesture, every second she talked to you...
that is just not sane.


Cheers.
 

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pyros said:
Hi.
Sorry to be kind of rude but, this guys is nuts. Or he may just have some part of his brain not working properly.

THIS GIRLS HAD SOME intereset the first second she met you. After that second she got to know you and the tiny attraction she felt vanished inmediately. And you just keep destroying it over and over. Seriously, everything you do you kill it more. Someone said your at 0 now, in my opinion you're at -5. Change please.

Just stop. Forget this woman, that DOES NOT LIKE YOU, REALLY DOES NOT LIKE YOU, and go meet some other girl.

BUT, you should really change the way you think (quite difficult btw), because if you keep it the way you do now, you're gonna end up totally frustrated and banging your hand. You CANT BE thinking over and over every little detail, every word, every gesture, every second she talked to you...
that is just not sane.


Cheers.

From the guy who takes 14 dates to sleep with a girl and then has her tell him she regrets it being so soon...lmao!!!
 

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I think you're reading another thread...
1)it took the number of dates it took because we wanted.
2) No one regrets anything.
3) You should learn how to read correctly.
 

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pyros said:
I think you're reading another thread...
1)it took the number of dates it took because we wanted.
2) No one regrets anything.
3) You should learn how to read correctly.
No, I in fact read it right and commented on it in your other thread. If you changed what you initially wrote I can't help that.
 

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pyros said:
Read it again.
No thanks, it was hard enough the first time...
 

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If you feel like calling her, call her. If you don't, don't. But whichever you do stop feeling guilty or you HAVE to do something. When you get in the mindset of "what's the right thing to do" you actually do the wrong thing. Just don't think about it and let your instinct guide you
 

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i think the problem here is that cos i avoided the 2 calls and text back that i was at the mall with buddies and i'd be home soon, my behavior was not congruent with how i have been with her so she's become supsicious.. plus if i was at the mall why wouldn't i be able to take the call.. im being shady like acting like a cheating bf.. that's why she came to the conclusion that i was with a gf cos her ex probably behaved in the same way and she's looking for an excuse to get rid of me.

obviously im not going to contact her again as it's pretty clear she isn't interested in me by how she acts in person and it seems weird how the second i remove my attention and walk away she's suddenly getting all jealous and stroppy.

i'll follow what's been advised on this thread and play it by ear.

i have to be honest on the 2 dates we went on it feels like im trying to force the attraction, i was the best i could be on the 1st date but it seems like she has this b1tch shield up that's unpenetratable.. she's just not attracted to me and i have to acccept that. every 2 secs she's on her phone texting whenever there is silent moment between us.. instead of sexual tension being built up she just goes to her phone.
 
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