She Broke NC - After 7 weeks

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Dash, women hit their SEXUAL peak at 30 - not their sexual PRIME. This is directly proportional to their DECLINING FERTILITY. Thus, they are by definition NOT AS SEXY. It's quantity over quality at that point. Older women have to try harder to get pregnant.
she is throwing breadcrumbs, no more, no less....
The term breadcrumbs comes from the whole "I was so hurt I have to protect my heart" BPD forums. It's defined as "her breaking no contact without explicitly saying she wants a sexual relationship again".

Needle off record. When do women EVER risk rejection that way? A woman will put feelers out and test you, she will explicitly send "breadcrumbs".

The main way to know it's not "breadcrumbs"? She keeps the conversation going. It's simply not easy (and not recommended) to have a long text conversation with a girl who is not interested.

No, 90% of the time, especially if it's been over a month (meaning you are no longer a habit), when she reaches out, she wants you to ask her out.

 

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It's common knowledge most >50% women hit their sexual peak in their mid-30's. Read: http://www.hidingthetruth.com/do-women-really-hit-their-sexual-prime-in-their-30s/. As a woman approaches her 30’s and ages into her 30’s, hormone levels are at all time high levels, which does in fact play a major part in her sexual inclination.
Nonsense. As if sexual peak equates to sexual market value. By that logic men peak at 15 years old as 15 - 18 years old is when their hormones (T levels) are at their highest naturally. Only a clown would make an assertion, however.

Sexual peak just means she is hornier...as if I care. What I care about is when she looks her best. A woman is at her most physically attractive in her early 20s and therfore her most valuable. There is no debate on this. Except from post wall women or men forced to settle with them through indoctrination or lack of options. So which one are you then brother/sister?
 
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Nonsense. As if sexual peak equates to sexual market value. By that logic men peak at 15 years old as 15 - 18 years old is when their hormones (T levels) are at their highest naturally. Only a clown would make an assertion, however.

Sexual peak just means she is hornier...as if I care. What I care about is when she looks her best. A woman is at her most physically attractive in her early 20s and therfore her most valuable. There is no debate on this. Except from post wall women or men forced to settle with them through indoctrination or lack of options. So which one are you then brother/sister?
Look...

I've been in the dating game a lot longer than you and I'll leave it at that. I can say based on my experience in dating women, and once again, most common knowledge among mature DJs, that they do hit sexual peak later than men. Ciao.
 

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Nonsense. As if sexual peak equates to sexual market value. By that logic men peak at 15 years old as 15 - 18 years old is when their hormones (T levels) are at their highest naturally. Only a clown would make an assertion, however.

Sexual peak just means she is hornier...as if I care. What I care about is when she looks her best. A woman is at her most physically attractive in her early 20s and therfore her most valuable. There is no debate on this. Except from post wall women or men forced to settle with them through indoctrination or lack of options. So which one are you then brother/sister?
He likely implied Sexual Experience... where a women has the top shape, physical energy and the EXPERIENCE to take it all out on you.

Indeed, women get their speak in the 30's and the sex is the best... but they look might start to suffer (for some of them: some do stay hot)
 

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Look...

I've been in the dating game a lot longer than you and I'll leave it at that. I can say based on my experience in dating women, and once again, most common knowledge among mature DJs, that they do hit sexual peak later than men. Ciao.
Ok then Granny fvcker.

@Von If I wanted experience I'd date a hooker.
 

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She's a slvt.
Why am I not surprised that the former bartender's girl @BeExcellent, now pushing 50, liked this?

What kind of woman calls another woman a slvt? One her daughter's age?? I'm her age and I have never used derogatory terms to describe a woman.

So to review:

1) BeExcellent claims to be here to help men.
2) When my girl when through a divorce (something BeExcellent has lots of experience with), and she pulled back, and I reached out to her, BeExcellent had steam coming out her ears at the very thought of a man her age dating such a young beauty, and she gave zero useful advice. She simply showed her bitterness from her very first response.
3) Later she threatened to make my private message public "to make me look bad" - when all she did was read a confession of my girl's love. After claiming I was being used for money.
4) She later stomped her foot and said "Your girl never loved you! She USED you!!!" Because she just doesn't want to see me get hurt.
5) Now, when my girl came back to me less than 2 ovulations later (kudos to @sazc who begrudgingly admitted that was likely), BeExcellent calls her a slvt. A woman 27 years her junior. Unbelievable. Like I said, @BeExcellent is probably not the girl in her avatar. A girl that pretty would be sweet, like the girl I'm trying to win back.
 

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If you love someone, you wouldnt leave them and go fuk someone else for a month then just come back like you please...thats quite disloyal and also very disrespectful.
 

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If you love someone, you wouldnt leave them and go fuk someone else for a month then just come back like you please...thats quite disloyal and also very disrespectful.
I don't know that she f*cked anyone else. Just that she reconnected with a 21 year old guy who can't pay the rent, who she knew since age 13. She might have had a period of being abstinent, or faithful to someone, which would be a step in the right direction. This girl went through a lot and I helped her reconnect with her family. She also needed to resolve high school issues so I gave her infinite space. If that's the end, I'm ok with that. I don't call her a sl*t (while worshipping women with rich families like some members posing as blonde women do here).

When I have HB9+ 21 year old women who I adore be 100% faithful to me from day 1, I'll choose them instead. In the meantime, this is 2017 - I won't act like a guy on a porno set whining that my girl isn't a virgin.
 

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Anyhow, bitter men and women notwithstanding: here are the keys:

Getting Your Ex Back

1) Give them space and wait (forever if necessary) for them to reach out.
2) Improve yourself in the meantime and work out.
3) Be the man she fell in love with to begin with (shout out).
 

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Personally, I don't think you should want your ex back. I prefer to look forward rather than backwards.
No contact isn't to bring them back, it's to help you move on.
Generally speaking, of course.
 

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Personally, I don't think you should want your ex back. I prefer to look forward rather than backwards.
No contact isn't to bring them back, it's to help you move on.
Generally speaking, of course.
Everyone at least wants the option of having their ex back. The steps outlined above never hurt your position.

There are several reasons I would consider dating her again (assuming she puts some effort in toward that end):

A) She is no longer married. I never dated a married person and this obviously was a major issue.
B) I proved to her that I will give her total freedom (I'm probably the first man in her life to do that) and she appreciated it and offered to make it up to me.
C) I proved to her that I will never stalk her or threaten her (something all women fear, and something she needed to break up with me to really know for sure).
D) I proved to her how strong I am by walking away. She knows she can lose me now, so she respects me more.
E) She proved to me that our relationship wasn't about money (I've had stripper relationships break down and they often aren't pretty).
F) The time apart proved to me how much she meant to me, and how hard it is to replace her, so I respect her more now.
G) The time apart followed by her reaching out proved that she won't forget me.
H) We had incredible sex on our first date and our last date. If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results, I'd have to be insane to assume we won't have more great sex if I see her.
J) The odds of incredible makeup sex are extremely high.
K) She was always a sweetheart, even when the mask came off. I never saw her be a b!tch. I never saw her break down and snap and say something like "I USED you!! I NEVER loved you!" like many female members here have, when their masks came off.
L) She always told me about the other men she was seeing, and we never had a commitment, so she never cheated on me.
M) It was one year ago today (later realizing that was the second time I saw her) that I fell in love with her in one glance. No girl ever struck me the way she did, not even close. She was always the most beautiful girl I ever saw.
N) Her needing to go back to work proves that her new man can't pay the bills.
O) A series of fateful coincidences happened which has added to what was already a great romance.

What are the cons? That it might hurt to lose her again? I'm not sure the pain of not having her will ever go away.

That said, I would need to start over and maintain the upper hand. The process of photographing her had me pedestalize her and I lost some control.
 

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Sexual peak just means she is hornier...as if I care. What I care about is when she looks her best. A woman is at her most physically attractive in her early 20s and therfore her most valuable.
I kind of feel like how horny a woman is is probably a lot more important

there are still good looking 30 year olds, but there's no use in having a model girlfriend who doesn't want sex as much as you do

granted, intentionally going after women in their 30s because of the "Sexual peak" is pretty fvcking stupid and it makes way more sense to find a 20 year old whose sex drive is way higher than average lol
 

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Everyone at least wants the option of having their ex back. The steps outlined above never hurt your position.

There are several reasons I would consider dating her again (assuming she puts some effort in toward that end):

A) She is no longer married. I never dated a married person and this obviously was a major issue.
B) I proved to her that I will give her total freedom (I'm probably the first man in her life to do that) and she appreciated it and offered to make it up to me.
C) I proved to her that I will never stalk her or threaten her (something all women fear, and something she needed to break up with me to really know for sure).
D) I proved to her how strong I am by walking away. She knows she can lose me now, so she respects me more.
E) She proved to me that our relationship wasn't about money (I've had stripper relationships break down and they often aren't pretty).
F) The time apart proved to me how much she meant to me, and how hard it is to replace her, so I respect her more now.
G) The time apart followed by her reaching out proved that she won't forget me.
H) We had incredible sex on our first date and our last date. If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results, I'd have to be insane to assume we won't have more great sex if I see her.
J) The odds of incredible makeup sex are extremely high.
K) She was always a sweetheart, even when the mask came off. I never saw her be a b!tch. I never saw her break down and snap and say something like "I USED you!! I NEVER loved you!" like many female members here have, when their masks came off.
L) She always told me about the other men she was seeing, and we never had a commitment, so she never cheated on me.
M) It was one year ago today (later realizing that was the second time I saw her) that I fell in love with her in one glance. No girl ever struck me the way she did, not even close. She was always the most beautiful girl I ever saw.
N) Her needing to go back to work proves that her new man can't pay the bills.
O) A series of fateful coincidences happened which has added to what was already a great romance.

What are the cons? That it might hurt to lose her again? I'm not sure the pain of not having her will ever go away.

That said, I would need to start over and maintain the upper hand. The process of photographing her had me pedestalize her and I lost some control.
Playing with a BPD = chasing the dragon. Both are addictions that play out the same way. You keep looking to recreate the magic of that first time but it's never quite the same.

You just keep going until you either OD, die, or to rehab. Even with OD'ing or going to rehab like most addicts chances are high you'll fall off the wagon again.

You already went to rehab on this girl why go back to that addiction?
 

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So....

1) Your cluster B has come hoovering, predictable as clockwork

2) you havent changed at all, you are still entirely dependent on external validation.

Best case scenario is that it goes "ok" for a few weeks before she devalues you again.

Get your camera ready because you will be going overdrive on that weird "grade this chick" site, in a few weeks.
 

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Bro while I applaud your weight loss, the autism is still strong within you. I saw your recent pics, you are no where close to a body building physique. It is impossible to get that in 3 months.

Cmon.

I strongly recommend that you watch this autistic "body builder". The similarities between you both are striking personality wise.


And I don't get the hang up over this girl. 21. Dating you while married AND another guy. Leaves you for the other guy. And you want her back?


Is your self esteem that low?
It wouldnt matter if he'd managed to look like prime arnold in these last 3 months.

His problems are in his head, and he has shown ZERO interest in admitting that or in change.

He's not going to be helpable unless he hits rock bottom. And that's fairly likely with this girl pulling his strings.
 

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I haven't changed? I lost about 25 pounds of fat and gained about 10 pounds of muscle in the 3 months since I saw her. I didn't look as good as her body builder ex husband before, but now I look better. So yes, I'd like to see how the chemistry feels with her now.
You keep looking to recreate the magic of that first time but it's never quite the same.
The sex got better and better for 9 months. I'd like to see how the makeup sex feels.

It wouldnt matter if he'd managed to look like prime arnold in these last 3 months.

His problems are in his head, and he has shown ZERO interest in admitting that or in change.

He's not going to be helpable unless he hits rock bottom. And that's fairly likely with this girl pulling his strings.
If rock bottom means earning the most and dating the best, I must have hit it. Man, nobody makes f*cking your dream girl for 9 months (and walking away and her reaching out) seem worse than SS members. Indeed, get ready for photos that are rated higher than your women will ever rate, even though you're in your prime and I'm nearly an old man.

For my fans: I'm trying to get her to do a photo shoot with the other Alpha from the last photo shoot. Also, a new model will pose next week.
 

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@bigneil she doesnt want your old wrinkly balls slappin against that prime piece of punani...she would rather have a broke 21 year old virile testosterone filled aesthetic young buck fill up her sugar walls then your old azz get it right dude she only cares about your $$$ other wise guess what, she wouldnt have left you!

welcome to reality, harsh as it may seem. but you are deluded like richardthefrog and sometimes you need a reality check because you like to flaunt that you have all this money all the time, guess what sparky money cant buy you love and it definitely cant pay for you to make some self realizations about the game and about life.
 

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@bigneil she only cares about your $$$ other wise guess what, she wouldnt have left you!
Fat girl my age, is that you? But wait, you contradicted yourself here, my money was always available, plus she came back.

This breakup proved she didn't care about money, otherwise she would have asked for money and I would have given it to her. In the time without her I earned $100,000.

Think her 21 year old can take me in a fight? How is he better again? Youth only makes women intrinsically hotter. Worst case, I'll date one of the other young models chasing me.

Meanwhile, Julian has yet to have one date since he joined.
 
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