Sh1t tests do NOT exist

[pipeman84]

Well, you asked this:

Look at the shvt Tom Brady went through for example. Why don't these rich powerful men have dime piece wives then?

And my answer was that he went through the shyt because despite his money and status as a sportsman, Brady apparently doesn't know how to screen and handle women. Otherwise he wouldn't have gotten that actress pregnant just before breaking up with her and wouldn't have married a ran through model (I mean, c'mon man, how high value are you really as a man when you marry DiCaprio's leftovers? Not to mention all the other guys she's been with).

 

[HaleyBaron]

On the Tom Brady thing, too many celebrity and athletes take Ls. They may be good at their profession but it does not mean they are good at getting women. Same for rich people. Need to stop holding them on a pedestal. They suck just like the average man. Sometimes I am still surprised to find how naive these high status men are. They fail the easiest tests. You may get access to hotter women and having status and money gives you more times to screw up. But you are still making the same mistakes.

 

[Bigpapa]

a lot of guys here talk that sh1t test is not the way to go, but the vast majority of them bang bottom of the barrel

the truth is that yeah sh1t test means that she is not 100% into you, but again why would a woman that is minimum a real 7 be into a guy from the get go? For sure she has a lot of solid options

if you want to bang quality, expect it to not be a smooth ride

but banging a true cutie equals an infinite number of sub par women

 

[Bigpapa]

On the Tom Brady thing, too many celebrity and athletes take Ls. They may be good at their profession but it does not mean they are good at getting women. Same for rich people. Need to stop holding them on a pedestal. They suck just like the average man. Sometimes I am still surprised to find how naive these high status men are. They fail the easiest tests. You may get access to hotter women and having status and money gives you more times to screw up. But you are still making the same mistakes.

true celebrities are quite blue pilled, if we talk About this

They just have it easier than most guys due to their extremely high status ( in the beginning at least )

Remember the depp sh1t show where that crazy woman took a sh1t in the bad and he still did not broke up with her

or the brad Pitt divorce, a lot of crazy stuff came up to the light about how Angelina was treating him

 

[CornbreadFed]

Well, you asked this:

And my answer was that he went through the shyt because despite his money and status as a sportsman, Brady apparently doesn't know how to screen and handle women. Otherwise he wouldn't have gotten that actress pregnant just before breaking up with her and wouldn't have married a ran through model (I mean, c'mon man, how high value are you really as a man when you marry DiCaprio's leftovers? Not to mention all the other guys she's been with).

My point is that no matter what knight and shining armor you present a woman, she will still find a reason to fvck it up or complain. If we are going by looks, money, and status then Tom Brady is clearly a 1% man based on those metrics. If this guy still has to jump through countless hoops to please a woman then it is pointless to have any confidence that a woman will never sh1t test a guy with a higher smv than her. In addition, Red Pill guys bvtch about sh1t tests and games too, so wtf is this magical man? The saying that no matter how hot the girl is, there's a guy that is completely sick of her bullsh1t is complete facts.

 

[Ricky]

if you have a higher smv than her, why would she test…that’s exactly what a girl wants

I think women still test because even though your smv is higher than theirs, they always have this subtle thought that they can do better.

its the basis of monkey branching or hypergamy with women and why they also entertain orbiters

 

[SmoothSmooth]

I think women still test because even though your smv is higher than theirs, they always have this subtle thought that they can do better.

its the basis of monkey branching or hypergamy with women and why they also entertain orbiters

Women test, but as I mentioned, if they’re really into you then it’s just done in a very careful and innocent way. It’s never directly confrontational and never causes disrespect or inconvenience to your life. furthermore, they will seek rapport and display a Sense of ‘spark’ before they even think of doing a little test. They wont START by ignoring you or demeaning you or playing games. They might ignore a text just before a date or act flakey once, but when they do reply or when you see them, their body language and demeanour is always warm. There is always a warmth in their demeanour with you, even when testing.
Healthy women act respectful and overly comply with men they find attractive because these are the men capable of giving them children with superior genetics, just like you would be extremely graceful and kind to someone who could potentially offer you a job with a million dollar salary.
I’ve had 4 same day lays (sex within 30 minutes of meeting someone) before. These were just regular college girls and all were at least 7s. I’ve seen a side to women many men haven’t. And let me tell you that women don’t need to vet men as much as PUAs make it seem. When they like someone, they know it pretty instantaneously. Because they’ve had so much experience dating and options that they can identify the men they are sexually attracted to as quickly as we can identify women we find hot. So they just need to test u for thirst/neediness here and there, which is biological. If you get thirsty they move onto a different hot guy.

now there is a percentage of women who view men as a THREAT just off the bat. These tend to be women who are extremely jaded, looking for a beta provider or sociopathic/psychopathic/narcisssitic/borderline(they have a legit mental disorder, attachment and identity issues, and a man can completely shatter their sense of security/identity/self esteem). These women are extremely complex and hot/cold and act MORE testy and difficult with more attractive men because these men have the most potential to hurt them emotionally. For example a narcissist woman who believes she is the most beautiful girl in her city will have her delusion shattered if she ia rejected by a handsome man. So these girls keep these men at bay and ‘test’ them insanely to see if the men would be willing to tolerate their abusive behaviour down the line (eg cheating). These women always end up with beta chumps down the line, or if they are extremely hot will seduce HVM that have mommy issues or mental issues themselves (eg Kanye and Kim Kardashian/Will smith and Jada Pinkett/Amber Heard and Johnny Depp).

A lot of PUA culture was actually catered towards men with mommy issues that are looking to seduce a woman similar to their mother - dysfunctional women that want a man that is a dancing monkey. That’s why a lot of pua is about ‘game’, overdoing the replies and constantly entertaining the woman - because narcissistic women are constantly looking for supply and instantly looking DOWN on the men they talk to (as a protective mechanism, since in reality the men are threats to them).
Normal healthy women don’t require that much mental gymnastics, because these women will be TRYING to build rapport with you. They will be asking YOU questions, texting YOU with interesting info and displaying open body language, even doing you favours etc so it’s easy to establish a natural back and forth. Most healthy women are just going to go for men that are superficially as attractive as them - looks and lifestyle wise. It’s just like how we pick friends. They aren’t going to go for a guy based on his ‘game’. They aren’t constantly looking for emotional stimulation but can actually appreciate a man for his genuine qualities, they also like to chase rather than be lovebombed. Whereas a lot of PUAs over emphasised game and downplayed being as physically and socially attractive as possible

 

[kavi]

You have to separate hookups, ONS, FWB from actual relationships because in the womans head these are two completely different things and her behaviour is going to be different to each guy.

Because of this theres alot of guys out here with high lay counts but little actual knowledge of women or Game.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I don’t think sh*t tests happen. If a girl likes you, she’ll make it known. Attraction & desire are primal. Most women aren’t conniving schemers. plotting tests and making men jump through hoops. If she wants you. Her emotions & her vag will conspire to make it clear.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

To be fair, "Sh.it tests" is a complete buzz phrase that has no real definition.. so it's hard to say there aren't shi.t tests or they don't exist.. because its literally a buzz word that a variety of people might associate with different things.

There's definitely things women do on a psychological level to test a man-- and that goes without saying. Women's concept of reality is different in men in the sense that they utilize their psychological tactics to figure out things --where as men just go into things head on and use our assumptions to carry us, until proven otherwise- or we simply ask questions and try to figure things out. Women rely on the subtle arts of utilizing actions,
Also, nice to see you made another post. I remember when you joined you had alot of posts that kept falling flat as people would disagree in droves.. then you'd keep making new posts and same thing would happen lol. But, Keep trying man maybe you'll convince someone of your perspectives, or might have some people who agree. However claiming you have 13 yrs of cold approach and are some chad, just to say you get "REJECTED MOST OF THE TIME" at the end of your post-- something doesn't add up..

To be fair to OP. Even an experianced Chad will get rejected more often than succeed doing CA. Most women (particularly attractive ones) are already in a relationship. And. Having been CA’d myself by women. It is jarring as most of us wander about in our own world. Being approached, unexpectedly by a stranger, even an attractive one, who expresses sexual (even if low key) interest, can be intimidating. As powerful emotions are at play.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

If they dont exist why are you referencing them here?

They are very real and the issue is this.
Most normies CANT RECOGNIZE them in the first place.
You can read a hundred examples here on SS.

I think in a relationship. you are correct.

 

[RazorRambo24]

To be fair to OP. Even an experianced Chad will get rejected more often than succeed doing CA. Most women (particularly attractive ones) are already in a relationship. And. Having been CA’d myself by women. It is jarring as most of us wander about in our own world. Being approached, unexpectedly by a stranger, even an attractive one, who expresses sexual (even if low key) interest, can be intimidating. As powerful emotions are at play.

Nah man im not even a chad but I am pretty handsome and have high self esteem, and I do not get rejected "most of the time". I close at least number close 50% of girls I approach.. if youve been doing CA for longer than a decade..or in his case 13 years.. you at least should have learned early on how to vet who to approach.

If a girl is not single, its not considered a rejection anyway..rejections are when a girl simply does not accept any of your advanced because shes not interested in you.

 

[Bigpapa]

I close at least number close 50% of girls I approach.. if youve been doing CA for longer than a decade..or in his case 13 years.. you at least should have learned early on how to vet who to approach.

fair point, I even number close girls with boyfriends that we both know it will not go anywhere besides the discussion we had in that particular moment

Not even chicks will boyfriends will reject you per se, just that it will be very likely that things will not progress

 

[SmoothSmooth]

Nah man im not even a chad but I am pretty handsome and have high self esteem, and I do not get rejected "most of the time". I close at least number close 50% of girls I approach.. if youve been doing CA for longer than a decade..or in his case 13 years.. you at least should have learned early on how to vet who to approach.

If a girl is not single, its not considered a rejection anyway..rejections are when a girl simply does not accept any of your advanced because shes not interested in you.

bro is talking about number closing hahaha that’s how I know you’re not a chad or even remotely intelligent about gender dynamics
I can get numbers and social medias more than 50% of the time…numbers and follows mean nothing…absolutely nothing.
A pua will fake their results by showing you their number closes….and then selling you a course.
Success = you had sex
Most women I approach do not end up having sex with me.
Anyone that claims they sleep with most women they approach are delusional.
Hence, most women reject me.

chads get rejected most of the time. But they score big and win big enough times to have an abundant dating life.

I’ve had 4 same day lays in my life (women I’ve banged within minutes/hours of meeting). I’ve dated a few stunners. I’m attractive tall and successful. my girlfriends have been extremely feminine/cooperative and low body count. I still get rejected most of the time. Women send me choosing signals all the time and sometimes I get approached by women. Still most of the time, it doesn’t lead to sex.
Knowing that I am preselected due to so much positive feedback from women, has given me insane social confidence which means I approach more than any guy I know and rejection doesn’t feel bad to me, because I am convinced of my smv and worth

A girl can go on 5 dates with you and it means nothing. All that counts is did you have sex. And in my experience a girl knows within 10 seconds if she wants to potentially f0ck you. All you gotta do is not mess it up.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

fair point, I even number close girls with boyfriends that we both know it will not go anywhere besides the discussion we had in that particular moment

Not even chicks will boyfriends will reject you per se, just that it will be very likely that things will not progress

yep because a fundamental part of the dating game is women do not reject men that are providing them with validation.They’d rather string you along and squeeze you of as much attention as possible

 

[pipeman84]

Man, you're making some good points, but then there's this:

I’ve had 4 same day lays in my life (women I’ve banged within minutes/hours of meeting).

A girl can go on 5 dates with you and it means nothing. All that counts is did you have sex.

Boasting you fvcked a girl within minutes/hours of meeting is like boasting you visited a brothel or got an escort to come to your place. Girls doing that are either of sex worker caliber or so dumb they get drunk and expose themselves to rape, getting pregnant and so on.
On the other hand, going on a few dates with a girl and realizing you 2 are not compatible and parting ways without having sex is a perfectly normal interaction between responsible adults.

 

[kavi]

You guys would have completely different experiences if dealing with girls from social circles. This is the thing about women there are different perspectives, when dealing with women in social circles you can for sure get 'sh1t tests' but this is a catchall term for all types of obstacles and issues that come in your way and are reflected in the womans behaviour.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

Man, you're making some good points, but then there's this:


Boasting you fvcked a girl within minutes/hours of meeting is like boasting you visited a brothel or got an escort to come to your place. Girls doing that are either of sex worker caliber or so dumb they get drunk and expose themselves to rape, getting pregnant and so on.
On the other hand, going on a few dates with a girl and realizing you 2 are not compatible and parting ways without having sex is a perfectly normal interaction between responsible adults.

you haven’t seen the side of women that’s willing to jump into bed with the right guy at the right time.
Every woman will escalate fast with their ideal man (unless she has a religious objection)

 

[Smok1nAce]

You know what you do with a sh!t test, crumple it up and use it as toilet paper and move on.

When I was in my early 20s I succumbed to the "**** test" theories and idea to combat them with overthinking every move i make and making sure I got the upper hand. This in return actually cost me more sex.

Now in my 30s they basically amount to a woman's insecurity's coming to the surface.

Everything else is just overthinking the situation.

If you ever find yourself doing something funny or out of character your ***** whipped.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

When a woman likes you, and sees you as high smv, she views your attention like gold
So anything you do/say is usually taken in the best possible light
You make a silly joke and she will laugh
You move too fast and she will forgive you
So you will never really have to overthink your response times, replies, game/flirting etc
She will slow things down when they move too fast, but will STILL appreciate the fact you tried to escalate or TRIED to flirt etc etc
She won’t look negatively on you being sexual or anything you did that was an attempt to be flirty etc

The bar for her positive feedback will be very low. You could literally say some mundane **** and get effort from her back.

if you think a woman is testing you based on the CONTENT of your communication, that means she doesn’t value the SOURCE of the communication

an interested woman just appreciates that you are in her life and potentially interested In taking her out. To create this effect on a woman; it has very little to do with what you say after you’ve met her. It’s based on the first 10 seconds, her instant assessment of ur value based on HOW you met, WHERE you met, how important you SEEM and what you LOOK like

an analogy - when someone meets their fave celebrity, or a respected person, they cling onto every word they say