Sex & Christianity

[bbestar]

I was a bastard born into a catholic family
Grew up in it, attended mass every sunday, baptised catholic, and communion



Now I realized the truth....

Now Im no longer Catholic



Im a believer

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by frivolousz21
really?

im right....so how am I stupid.

you believe in something that was written by humans with IQ's of 70.

im the stupid one?!

Yeah, you are, and if you're going to be like that, delete me off of your AIM list. Cut the crap, kid.

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by blueangel83

I do believe in God and Jesus Christ, follow the teachings of the bible, and continue to attend mass in church every sunday BUT also continue to commit fornication. But I'm guessing that as long as I remain humble and respect everybody that God would forgive me.

That's... not what the Bible says.

http://www.carm.org/index/Jesus_saves.htm

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by Drow
Please reply to this thoughtfully and seriously...

Having sexual intimacy (of any kind) before marraige is preached against.

Christianity (the Bible) admonishes everyone to "Flee from sexual immorality" citing that "the body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord".

The Bible has very strong warnings and urgings to flee from sexual immorality of any kind. Jesus says, "everyone who looks at a women with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

"For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality; that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in passion of lust, like the Gentiles who do not know God."

But I ask you guys, what are your thoughts about these teachings? Please don't reply if you don't have something thoughtful to offer.

This is an important question because, obviously, this site is geared towards getting women, but what about the sexual issues? should you wait until marraige? can you be enslaved to sex? what about lust?

What are ya'lls thoughts, in general, about what Christianity teaches about sex?

I agree on it. I am saving sex until marriage myself, and besides the Bible saying it, there are good real world reasons. Less drama, no unwanted pregnancy, no STDs, and sex between you and your wife will not involve comparisons in your head between her and your exes. It will be a full spiritual, physical and emotional connection between only you and only your wife.

And if you are a virgin, MARRY a virgin. Don't marry a chick who's been had by some other dude!

 

[JonJack]

Choose to follow the words of others, or choose to follow your own. As a child, we needed to do the former. As an adult, I decided to choose the latter.

It doesn't matter whether your choices are right or wrong to others. What is important is how convicted you are in your choices. That is the reason why I do not respect those that say they believe in saving it for marriage but can't bring themselves to do it. It is hypocritical and a cop out, and it doesn't say much of the person's will and self control.

 

[pimpfromdayone]

Re: Re: Sex & Christianity

Originally posted by MetalFortress

And if you are a virgin, MARRY a virgin. Don't marry a chick who's been had by some other dude!

Good luck finding one of those.....well, a hot one at least. They're uhhh, sorta hard to find these days..... just like truly good people.

uniassign, religion is not science. It will never be proven. It is based solely on FAITH: belief in something, in absence of evidence. The answers to your questions will never be discovered. If Christianity is the right way (and I will assume it is, just because it is better safe than sorry, as they say), the whole purpose of NOT having answers to the questions would be so God can test who will be obedient and follow his rules. Faith is really the ultimate test. You're given a choice, and there is NO evidence supporting the religion..... will you still believe?
That is the only way I can explain it.

Once again, abstinence has advantages for society as a whole, and I think pre-marital sex should at least be limited to relationships. I also find it really hard to believe someone can be dam-ned to hel-l for all eternity for looking at a woman and wanting to fu-ck her..... that just doesn't make sense. We are pre-programmed to reproduce and we heavily desire the opposite sex, so there is no reason why we shouldn't be able to lust all we want. God even told the first people to be fruitful and reproduce. Is it even possible to have sex without first lusting? I think not. That's the only thing I haven't figured out..... but once again, I think the test is to resist these urges when possible, not to completely eliminate them.

 

[Bible_Belt]

A post of mine copied from:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82048&perpage=20&pagenumber=1

I think the Bible gets a bad wrap because of all the nutcases out there. It does not say to avoid premarital sex and anything fun. Jesus said not to be sexually immoral, but that is it. Neighborhood orgies and gayness are out, but that's all, imho, unless you include the prohibition on doing your mother/sister/livestock. These rules are not difficult to follow.

The men of the Bible are mostlys DJs. They do not take any flack from their women. There is a scene in Genesis where Joseph's wife and mistress are arguing about who gets to have sex with him when he comes back from the field. It's like a porno plot. There's more sex and violence in the Bible than on network TV.

My point is to ask all of you to not hate religion because there are so many ignorant religious people. Form your opinions about the Bible, good or bad, by reading it.
http://bible.gospelcom.net/
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I might add that the exact definition of what Jesus meant by "sexual immorality" is what I consider to be one of the unresolved questions of Christianity. I think part of the church's war on sex relates to their desire to have power over people.

 

[frivolousz21]

how am I talking crazy?

im not saying im athiest.

if we decided to write a bible now..and pass it on it wouldnt take long for people hundreds of yrs from now to buy into it.

wasnt Jesus hated once?

now he is the most famous human to ever live?

because it was passed on for him to be???


regardless......
the origional poster should follow his beliefs

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by Bible_Belt
A post of mine copied from:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82048&perpage=20&pagenumber=1

I think the Bible gets a bad wrap because of all the nutcases out there. It does not say to avoid premarital sex and anything fun. Jesus said not to be sexually immoral, but that is it. Neighborhood orgies and gayness are out, but that's all, imho, unless you include the prohibition on doing your mother/sister/livestock. These rules are not difficult to follow.

The men of the Bible are mostlys DJs. They do not take any flack from their women. There is a scene in Genesis where Joseph's wife and mistress are arguing about who gets to have sex with him when he comes back from the field. It's like a porno plot. There's more sex and violence in the Bible than on network TV.

My point is to ask all of you to not hate religion because there are so many ignorant religious people. Form your opinions about the Bible, good or bad, by reading it.
http://bible.gospelcom.net/
************
I might add that the exact definition of what Jesus meant by "sexual immorality" is what I consider to be one of the unresolved questions of Christianity. I think part of the church's war on sex relates to their desire to have power over people.

Read any other translation besides the NIV, and "sexual immorality" becomes "fornication". So yes, the Bible does prohibit premarital sex. That is no unresolved quesiton. That is just a misconception and a justification provided by those who tend to read the NIV exclusively.

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by frivolousz21
how am I talking crazy?

im not saying im athiest.

if we decided to write a bible now..and pass it on it wouldnt take long for people hundreds of yrs from now to buy into it.

wasnt Jesus hated once?

now he is the most famous human to ever live?

because it was passed on for him to be???


regardless......
the origional poster should follow his beliefs

And I quote...

"you believe in something that was written by humans with IQ's of 70."

Originally posted by pimpfromdayone
Good luck finding one of those.....well, a hot one at least. They're uhhh, sorta hard to find these days..... just like truly good people.

You just have to know where to look.

 

[pimpfromdayone]

Originally posted by MetalFortress

You just have to know where to look.

Indeed you do.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Read any other translation besides the NIV, and "sexual immorality" becomes "fornication". So yes, the Bible does prohibit premarital sex. That is no unresolved quesiton. That is just a misconception and a justification provided by those who tend to read the NIV exclusively.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/pornea.htm

I think it is important to understand that most of the discussion of "sexual imorality" was from Paul, and he was writing to people who engaged in wild sex-orgy/pagan ritual parties. That was what Paul meant by "fornication." Also, we define "marriage" as the issuance of the certificate by the government. Yet, Jesus was anti-government, and the Bible is pretty down on the works of men. I think it is what is in your heart (1 Samuel 16:7) that matters, whether or not you see some realistic possibility of being with the girl long-term. It's the times that I was just banging some ho that I regret, but looking back, the pre-marital-yet-still-within-a-LTR sex was still the right thing to do. Sex is a gift, but use it, don't abuse it. The Song of Solomon 2:3 tells women to swallow, btw. This is a great verse to pull out and show a gf who suddenly gets religion.

 

[MackJr]

Here's what I think about Christianity and its ideas about sex: they'll hold you back.

I suppose if you only want to use DJ tactics on your wife to keep her happy, they will. But you might have trouble getting a wife in the first place, and if you got a wife as an AFC, it's very possible that she's running you around and wearing the pants in the house.

If I were still Christian, there'd be no way I'd be looking this site, because some of the concepts, like "try before you buy" are completely incompatible with orthodox or even liberal schools of that religion.

One of the problems is that the message it sends is that sex is 'bad', which makes no sense because procreation is necessary, on a species-level. Even in marriage, they make it sound like it's just a matter of curbing filthy urges.

If you're really deep into it, it takes a lot of belief removal before you can get to be a DJ, because religion is a giant AFC-generating machine. It creates submissive people, which is bad for men.

I think though, if you want a realistic view of the way women and men interact, so that you can make better choices, then you'll get a lot if you stick this site and the other seduction sources you'll find on the web. It's the lost art.

 

[frivolousz21]

"you believe in something that was written by humans with IQ's of 70."

well I was attacking him back.

for saying I was wrong....that was probably overboard.

which I apologize for.

 

[illmatic20]

I have met a hb8 who is a christian who saving herself for marriage and how she explains it to me is she want her viginity to be a gift towards her husband. She wants to be able to tell her husband he is the first she ever been with. She told be about a experience she had with a guy and how they slept in the same bed, but didn't do anything and now he she will never be able to tell her husband he was the first guy she slept in bed with.

Being the sosauve guy I am. I decide to neg hit her by stating out that I felt bad for her future husband, because she was going to suck in bed (she laughs). She later points out she is willing to learn how to please her man.

I myself use to be athiest. I turned my back and walked out on god. Through my journey I always looked for a way to find that fulfillment that comes with having god. I would have sex in hopes that it fulfilled it or try to ignore the loneliness by staying busy. I am now a christian and never been happier. yet, I still read this site, because it provide much more then just a way to getting laid. It teaches how to attract women and that a tool you can use for the rest of your life, no matter if you choose to have sex or not.

 

[manuva]

Mr T would whup Jesus in a fight.

 

[Bible_Belt]

You and the HB8 should read the Song of Solomon together. Try the NIV. I don't see how a Christian girl can read that and not put out - or at least be enthusiastic about doing everything but.

Personally, I can't deal with a girl who won't put out. It's the power issue. The dynamics of the relationship just feel wrong to me. Men are the dominant gender, and the more power that a woman wields in a relationship the less natural it seems.

 

[frivolousz21]

Isnt it grand that my GF was a virgin..catholic girl..only sleeping with 1 man in her life.

lucky me.


I do believe in a higher power.....wether its Infalliable or not is for debate.

regardless Humans have free will...we should appreciate god...not use god as a crutch for decisions like so many people do.

 

[frivolousz21]

I will say if you want a trustworthy loyal women...get one who does love god..and practices her love for god..


they are the best chance for a honest strong women

 

[illmatic20]

Originally posted by Bible_Belt
You and the HB8 should read the Song of Solomon together. Try the NIV. I don't see how a Christian girl can read that and not put out - or at least be enthusiastic about doing everything but.

Personally, I can't deal with a girl who won't put out. It's the power issue. The dynamics of the relationship just feel wrong to me. Men are the dominant gender, and the more power that a woman wields in a relationship the less natural it seems.

Well, you have to realize what you both want out of a relationship/goal and see if it the same. I have known guys who have been in a relationship with a girl thinking that her not putting out was a front. Only to realize 2 years later she wasn't bluffing. If you want sex then find yourself a girl who wants the same thing. I never understood trying to change someone, for the most part you are wasting your time. People only change if they want to.