Hello Friend,

If this is your first visit to SoSuave, I would advise you to START HERE.

It will be the most efficient use of your time.

And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.

Thank you for visiting and have a great day!

Saudi Arabia Ditching America for China

Stuffnu

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 2, 2014
Messages
540
Reaction score
739
Age
42
California has had stricter emissions standards than the rest of the USA
Is your high environmental standards and leftist ideologies one of the reasons for all the tent cities popping up?
but well over 50% of new cars sold in Norway are already electric
Respectfully it’s funny how Norway is electrifying but accumulating great wealth from your oil and gas reserves in the North Sea.
Bit of a double standard isn’t it?

Not being argumentative, just trying to visualize the costs of compliance.
Lower standard of living or continued prosperity by tapping the thing we’re trying to avoid (or other natural resources)
 

Zimbabwe

Banned
Joined
Aug 29, 2021
Messages
2,382
Reaction score
3,095
Age
28
You forgot we're talking about millennials here :)
Are we going to ignore all the jobs that depend on interstate travel? You disrupt the supply chain and it will have a domino affect.

Food doesn't just magically appear in the supermarket
 

zekko

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 6, 2009
Messages
16,150
Reaction score
9,000
Are we going to ignore all the jobs that depend on interstate travel? You disrupt the supply chain and it will have a domino affect.
Hey, I'm just making a joke. I'm not the one trying to get rid of gas and oil. Which is mostly wishful thinking.
 

Serenity

Moderator
Joined
Aug 19, 2013
Messages
5,117
Reaction score
4,990
Age
33
Location
Eye of the storm
Great in theory. Does not work in practice. People either won’t understand or don’t want to. That is the human condition.
Should have mentioned that this also isn't done over night, have to do better with the newer generations and wait for the older generations to die before this will take effect. Your solution eventually leads to authoritarianism, which we also know doesn't work. You have far too little faith in people.

Respectfully it’s funny how Norway is electrifying but accumulating great wealth from your oil and gas reserves in the North Sea.
Bit of a double standard isn’t it?
No Norwegian is going to deny that, but we try not to make it worse than it already is. We export the oil, our energy comes almost entirely from hydroelectric plants, it's very convenient to electrify our country. It still is a bit of a double standard, but hey, it's the greenest and most ethical oil on the planet, lol.
 

EyeBRollin

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 18, 2015
Messages
10,707
Reaction score
8,637
Age
35
Are we going to ignore all the jobs that depend on interstate travel? You disrupt the supply chain and it will have a domino affect.

Food doesn't just magically appear in the supermarket
This would be a strawman argument. Getting off oil does not prohibit interstate travel or the distribution of food.
 

Kotaix

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 29, 2019
Messages
2,284
Reaction score
2,886
Age
47
All those items make citizens more dependent on government ……
Coincidence?
I honestly think it's just incompetence. Most of these politicians can't see past their own nose, probably because they're too busy trying to remember all the lies they've told so they don't make clowns of themselves. All the political class needs to be removed from office, they don't have our best interests in mind, only theirs.

The only reason this is happening is because the united states collectively decided to virtue signal about this and throw a massive wrench into the machine of the global economy by cancelling Russia, and all tto cover up the giant pile of dirt that we have in Ukraine for a few more months thanks to our corrupt politicians and media.
 

zekko

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 6, 2009
Messages
16,150
Reaction score
9,000
What is wishful thinking about getting rid of oil as a power source?
It's intrinsic to almost everything we do, and we don't have anything that can replace it that is as cheap and effective.
And even if we do, up and coming industrial countries are just going to take our place as users.
I'm all for finding clean and renewable energy sources, I just don't think anything I've seen suggested by the climate control crowd seems realistic. And it's hard to take their leaders serious when their own carbon footprint is bigger than mine.
 

EyeBRollin

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 18, 2015
Messages
10,707
Reaction score
8,637
Age
35
It's intrinsic to almost everything we do, and we don't have anything that can replace it that is as cheap and effective.
And even if we do, up and coming industrial countries are just going to take our place as users.
I'm all for finding clean and renewable energy sources, I just don't think anything I've seen suggested by the climate control crowd seems realistic. And it's hard to take their leaders serious when their own carbon footprint is bigger than mine.
There is not a single benefit to being a high carbon emitting country. I’m not sure why so many seem to have an emotional attachment to oil. Oil is a toxic dependency and its effectiveness is specific to the application. From a vehicle propulsion standpoint, an ICE is considerably less efficient than an electric drivetrain.
 

zekko

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 6, 2009
Messages
16,150
Reaction score
9,000
There is not a single benefit to being a high carbon emitting country. I’m not sure why so many seem to have an emotional attachment to oil.
There's no emotional attachment to oil. Switching over is expensive, and disruptive.
 

BillyPilgrim

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 9, 2021
Messages
4,974
Reaction score
3,839

zekko

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 6, 2009
Messages
16,150
Reaction score
9,000
I understand the sentiment, but this is not a logical argument for clinging to oil.
People use oil because it's practical, and relatively inexpensive. At least until recently - and the prices do not need to be this high. If they wanted to encourage more oil production, they could. Not many people can afford an electric car (if you can even find one).
 

EyeBRollin

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 18, 2015
Messages
10,707
Reaction score
8,637
Age
35
People use oil because it's practical, and relatively inexpensive. At least until recently - and the prices do not need to be this high. If they wanted to encourage more oil production, they could. Not many people can afford an electric car (if you can even find one).
Economy of scale my friend. There’s not much difference in price between an ICE vehicle and an EV. Over the life of the vehicle, the EV is significantly cheaper in total cost.
 
Top