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CaptFinnBad

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Most guys have been there at some stage including me. So the situation is serious but not hopeless. How old are you? And what was your former profession? Is the living situation with the relative stable? We need a bit more info to work with. You ve got some good and wise people on this thread. We ll support nobody is going to 'should' on you. I would say that one of the benefits of the internet is anonymity. You ll get better results if you're strictly honest with yourself and us.

And remember people can be good. You ve got a bunch of strangers here with nothing to gain giving their time to help you out.

From what I ve read so far the issue sounds like how to provide enough structure and enjoyment of life while you work through some economic and inner issues.

To provide some immediate value I d suggest a couple of things. Men do best in a routine and when they feel useful. Nobody can stop you getting fit (running and bodyweight) or helping people with your time or going to the library and learning something. E.g. https://www.coursera.org/learn/dog-...utm_source=linkshare&utm_campaign=SAyYsTvLiGQ or starting a doggy blog

Sounds like you're stateside. Why not learn Spanish. From the stats that wave is building and plenty of guys swear by Latinas at least most of them cook!

Is there an animal shelter you could volunteer at?

I know saying volunteer is counter intuitive when you re trying to earn.


What we re trying to do is build routine, a feeling of being useful, focusing on other people instead of your problems and the habit of hard work. E.g. at 5.30 I get up and walk my dog while listening to stoic philosophy or dog training podcasts. Monday is legs day. Tuesday I work at the shelter. At the shelter I m the first in and the last to leave and keen to learn more and do more every week. And later on maybe I can ask my supervisor there for a reference. And you might meet some less self absorbed girls at the animal shelter over time. If you do for god's sake don't fvck them no sh1tting where you eat.

Meditation will definitely help with anxiety and emotional control. But meditation can feel like laziness when you first start. So build it into your routine. It's hard for your bad inner voice to say your being lazy at 6.30 in the morning after you ve been for a run.


Honestly any time I ve been between jobs is the hardest I ve worked in my life. You can't let your days drift. And you want to feel that when you do give yourself a day off it's the reward for all your hard work.

I think the dog walking idea is great. You could staircase that and build up a business over time.

And please consider this is a recovery process. You're going to have good and bad days and days when nothing works. You have to remember it's just a bad day everyone has them. For those days see if the library can get you this book

Trust the process. Thousands of guys here have pulled themselves back from the brink. You re a smart guy if Joe schlep can do it you can too.

If you have the odd tinder episode no drama. Consenting adults with an itch to scratch. But I really wouldn't put much time into it. Now your time needs to be going into building yourself up. Becoming that happy, positive, disciplined guy who people will want to be round and give opportunities to.

And Tinder's a sugar hit. You don't want to get addicted to that. Women can be a reward or a trap. You choose.

Nobody gets anywhere without learning to delay gratification.
Yeah man I have an addictive personality. Not even a week since I've been dumped and I've already lined to four pretty girls. I don't know what's wrong with me?

Avoidance behaviour mabye ?

Feel good through the dopomine rush of chasing women. Forget and zone out of solving my real issues.

I'm 37. My real career is in the aerospace industry, basically a mechanical engineering technician. My experience is in military stuff.

Been away a long time. Will be rediculously hard to get back into it.


I've actually just started a blog. It's about another one of my passions ultra light fishing. More to tell stories about my fishing trips than anything else (not been fishing for a while as there isn't much about this time of year).

I'm earning a bit of side money from matched betting and taking advantage of loop holes in online casinos. All total legal and above board.

Been infornt of a screen doesn't help me though. It just puts me in my own head.

Reading a book called the mindful attraction plan. Basically it's a book about making a plan in line.

I need a plan.

I do the right things , yoga , meditate, strength training.

My biggest worst enemy is insomnia. That's a cycle I need to break. I'll fall asleep at a ridiculous time or not sleep at all.

Then I'm screwed the next day. So I'll go into destructive patterns.

Like I said I do the right things, but I completely lack discipline and I'm lazy, so constantly burning the house down.

Which could be because I'm lost and don't know my path.

Thank you so much for your detailed answers by the way. I really appreciate it.
 
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That's interesting. You should be physically tired and calm with the good self maintenance you re working on. What triggers your insomnia episodes?
 

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Yeah man I have an addictive personality. Not even a week since I've been dumped and I've already lined to four pretty girls. I don't know what's wrong with me?

Avoidance behaviour mabye ?

Feel good through the dopomine rush of chasing women. Forget and zone out of solving my real issues.

I'm 37. My real career is in the aerospace industry, basically a mechanical engineering technician. My experience is in military stuff.

Been away a long time. Will be rediculously hard to get back into it.


I've actually just started a blog. It's about another one of my passions ultra light fishing. More to tell stories about my fishing trips than anything else (not been fishing for a while as there isn't much about this time of year).

I'm earning a bit of side money from matched betting and taking advantage of loop holes in online casinos. All total legal and above board.

Been infornt of a screen doesn't help me though. It just puts me in my own head.

Reading a book called the mindful attraction plan. Basically it's a book about making a plan in line.

I need a plan.

I do the right things , yoga , meditate, strength training.

My biggest worst enemy is insomnia. That's a cycle I need to break. I'll fall asleep at a ridiculous time or not sleep at all.

Then I'm screwed the next day. So I'll go into destructive patterns.

Like I said I do the right things, but I completely lack discipline and I'm lazy, so constantly burning the house down.

Which could be because I'm lost and don't know my path.

Thank you so much for your detailed answers by the way. I really appreciate it.
Are you from UK? My mates and I hit matched betting stuff on a pretty industrial scale, some elected to leave their jobs for it a few years back when casino bonuses were still rife.

It's been going downhill for years though, casino pretty much gone, sports too.
 

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Are you from UK? My mates and I hit matched betting stuff on a pretty industrial scale, some elected to leave their jobs for it a few years back when casino bonuses were still rife.

It's been going downhill for years though, casino pretty much gone, sports too.
Yeah man. I'm in the UK. Not great money, it's useful though to earn a bit when my financial situation is dire though.

It's something.
 
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I don't think you hit rock bottom but good that all this is a wake up call for you though.

What kind of dog do you have?
I have a German Shepherd. I'll eventually get another shepherd (working line ) or a Mali.
 

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I have a German Shepherd. I'll eventually get another shepherd (working line ) or a Mali.
Nice, a working dog.. takes patience and dedication.
 

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So I was in a relationship for 8 years, that blew up.

After the relationship I had nothing keeping me in the area and so I moved back to my hometown where friends and family were.

So jobless living with a relatively I needed to sort my life out. I felt an itch and decided to have a look at online dating.

Wanted casual. A damaged women (didn't know at the time), hooked me. I fell for her, she's super into me e.t.c.

I tired to to resist her but we "fell in love".

She convinces me it's real. Gives me exactly what I think I need.

I become secure and invested.

She starts showing her true self. She's deeply troubled. That's okay because love
conquerors all! Haha am I right?

I kinda put my life in hold for her. Blah blah blah.

Fast forward.... I now know what , emotional witholding means, I understand what gaslighting is, I understand how a trauma bond feels, i know what it feels like to be in an emotionally abusive relationship e.t.c.

Don't know if she did it consonantly or not, I suppose it doesn't matter, she basically put me through blender.

I'm no longer with her, she's left me beat up and broken. Stepped on my self esteem, dignity and self respect on the way out.


Back to square one. Ground zero. This time I've had my ass kicked for 10 rounds.

Social circle is fuxed. Been away for so long, people have moved on (been trying to build friends and failing).

No job, finding it supidly hard to get hired (I wouldn't hire me) intelligent professional that has huge career gaps, the latest being "he hasn't worked in three years and it's blantenly obviously to all due to laziness". I have side income from property own/rent.

I had a choice work and bank the extra income. I picked live like a poorper and jerk off all day .

You could count my friends on one finger (mabye two).

Things I have going for me. I'm a member of a club/activity (Thursday afternoon and all day sat / sun, I can be busy and social with that ) .

I have a dog that loves me.

All my own teeth.

I'm not ugly haha.

I can be charming and carasmatic (not at the moment though, but it's in there).

I'm very likable. Usually, when I'm not self destructing.

Actually I'm alright at getting women. Which is a blessing and a curse.

Temptation to get my **** wet is real. I've already lined up a few. I want the sex and the destructive reason, I want to feel validated.

Arranged to meet medical professional next week. Unfortunately not for theory (can't afford it ), I'm meeting the pretty women to date and have sex with.

I've also lined up a needy single mum, Validation purposes.

There are others too. All the wrong reasons. It's nearly Christmas and I feel lonely AF. Need a dopomine boost hense throwing myself into these women.

Help a lost soul out.
If you a man are left broken, she did it right abandoning a sunken ship.

Step your game up. Level up. Get on your purpose. Get hotter younger girls. Never let women break you. It's pathetic.

Start lifting. Clean up diet. Meditate. Sleep 8 hrs and busy yourself.
 

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Remember this always.

Nobody can take from you what you haven't freely given them.

Your respect, your self worth...those are things you possess that nobody can take from you unless you allow them to.
 
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