Danger said:
Health care is more expensive in the US due to litigation. Nothing to do with competing companies. There is no bureacracy created from competing companies. Not sure where you got such a notion.
Uh, I got it from the facts? I see you’ve really been chowing down on those right-wing talking points.
No, health care is not expensive because of litigation. Litigation accounts for about 1% of all health care costs in the US, while bureaucracy swallows up 25% - but only for the private insurance companies. Medicare, the public program, only spends 2% of its expenses on paper-pushing.
One can call anythign a right. Higher Education is not a right, it's an obligation of th eperson that wants to go somewhere in life. There is a huge difference in mentality there.
Of course things are ‘rights’ because we say they are. Same goes for freedom of speech, freedom of religion, a fair trial (which costs money) and on and on. Don’t you realize that society is better off as a whole when everyone has basic rights like this, and is healthy and well-educated? Don’t these riots show you the danger of extreme inequality and social stratification?
As for education -again, you’re ignoring my point. Any economist will tell you that it’s not physically possible for most people to get educated under such a system because the expense means that a very large number of people will have to default on their student loans.
That could be said of any place on earth. Your point is moot.
No, you can’t say that about places like Sweden or Japan or other countries which have fully-supported welfare states. Poverty IS solveable; it's only a lack of effort on the part of society that keeps it in place.
Are we resorting to insults now? I understand you are frustrated in fainge an ego investments that is proven wrong.
Was that sentence in English? I'm not being snide; I really don't know what it's trying to say. 'Fainge'?
There are jobs available, but nobody wants to do them. I see the jobs everyday. Hell half of the places where I live have help wanted signs. But too many students feel it is beneath them.
LOL the classic 'there can't be unemployment - I saw a 'help wanted' sign! They just don't
want to work, that's all!'
Please elaborate. What are these decent jobs that lazy stupid poor people just won’t take? You ignored my point about falling wages, by the way.
Most of the people I know who are affluent did labor their way to everything. Not every labor is physical. Much of it is mental. To more succinctly answer your question, the vast majority of those who are not embedded in politics have earned their money more than fairly.
And most of the people i know who are affluent also worked hard - but they also had every advantage in life.
I’m not suggesting rich people don’t work (though many of them, especially people in the financial sector, do not) but they’re taking for more of the spoils than they are entitled to. A CEO of a company might have 500 employees; is he really entitled to make a thousand times what any of his employees do while cutting pay and benefits for everyone else? How is that fair? Is he working a thousand times as hard?
Absolute truth. On this we agree. I have to wonder though.....do you consider the rich to only be the criminals that run our nations? Or do you consider all of the "rich" who are not embroiled in the politics?
Politics? politics is controlled by the rich, of the rich, for the benefit of the rich. To be rich is to be represented. Perhaps it's always been so, everywhere, but it's becoming disgustingly obvious lately.
I am sure they are, and they should be prosecuted as such. However, that does not mean that all rich people stole their money.
Maybe, but it's also foolish to think that they earned every penny on their own. They needed other people's help to do it, but more and more they (the rich) are demanding all the credit, and smaller and smaller crumbs for everyone else.
In your world a person is supposed to graduate from college with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, pay off his student loans, provide for his own health care, and pay for it all with a crappy job that has no state-guaranteed benefits or even job security? If he gets sick, boom - he's done for.
It’s a pipe dream, and I mean that literally in the sense that it’s something you would think of while smoking opium. We’ve been trying it here in the US, it doesn’t work.
You seem to think it’s all about individual initiative. It isn’t. Even the strongest-willed person is not immune to larger socioeconomic forces.
