Rich BUT still fail with women(myth?)

[HalfAddict]

Neil Strauss anyone?


Remember he wasn't always style, and started out a rich nice guy wah wah couldn't get laid.

 

[KoalaKing]

to complete the sentence I would say "they end up fvcking the pool boy". This way they can have thier cake and eat it too in the end.

You must be a fan of "Desperate HouseWives". :yes:

 

[~attrACTION~]

Actually, I disagree. I go to the club, looking nice as ****. I get solid eye contact from plenty of women. But still, I come home alone. I got money too, believe it. The last time I got close to bringing a girl home from the club, when they got to my house, they were like "damn, you have a big house," but to be honest, being 'rich' is not all it's cracked up to be. I'm not saying I'm 'rich' necessarily (although the definition of 'rich' is subject to opinion) but I am quite well-off compared to my peers and honestly, I think money has absolutely nothing to do with it.

I used to pull women a lot better when I had barely any money. Rakish, no offense, but you are full of ****.

 

[dynamicallyidle]

I have read some posts on here that claim that you can be rich and still fail with women. This is absolutely stunning to me. Not to make fun of anybody who this has happened to. But how is this even possible? Have you seen Larry Kings wife? I saw a show on Vh1 about sugar daddys. Basically just old guys who get to lay hot chicks just because they are rich.
Women LOVE wealthy men. I think this whole thing is BS. Next thing we will hear is that athletes don't get laid by the hottest chicks. Or even rockstars. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sure you can be rich and fail with women: men who win the lottery. Men who have huge inheritances. These are men who did not have to use positive social attributes to earn their wealth. It is the positive social attributes required to get wealth which usually attract women as well.

If my little bro won the lottery tomorrow, he would still not be a king pimp. First of all, most girls his age are too immature to understand the value of money. But secondly, he's too farking young.

 

[DJDamage]

Listen not too get off the topic. But to all the sosuave members check this girls user cp out. She is a good looking girl. She is pretty cute, and by the way she posts she is smart also. She also posted how her boyfriend is 4 inches shorter than her, is broke, and is asian.

Its a picture, that could be any girl. Its not about the picture that counts on sosuave but the quality of advice.

Is this what you refer to as a smart advice??

Money isn't the most important thing I look for in a man. While I would never say that "money doesn't matter" (because, in the long run, it does to an extent) I would never date a guy just because of his paycheck. Personality is the first thing I look for. Case in point: my boyfriend is from the ghetto and very poor, but hardworking and can hold his own. I'm not with him because of the money (or lack of); I'm with him because we click.

Sounds like another rehearsed banter coming out of 99% of women out there. If you believe that personality is the first thing this girl was looking for and really understand what attracted her to her man then my friend I got some magic beans I would like to sell to you.

 

[DJF or John]

LookYoung what I am about to say is not intended to be a flame, it's just intended to assist you in your growth.

You said,

"Check this girls user cp out. She is a good looking girl. She is pretty cute, and by the way she posts she is smart also. She also posted how her boyfriend is 4 inches shorter than her, is broke, and is asian."

Okay, I didn't check out her user cp, but what's your point....

"What the hell is she doing with a short, broke, asian guy?"

Well, Lookyoung, what I've been trying to help you with for a while, especially in our previous flame war, was that the all the "QUALIFICATIONS" that you read on this site and others about what a guy MUST HAVE in order to get laid all the time is wrong.

They will tell you:

1. You must have money
2. You must be cool
3. You must workout
4. You must have great looks
5. You must walk this way
6. You must talk this way
7. You must dance this way

The list goes on and on.

What I had been trying to tell you, was that YOU PERSONALLY can do whatever you want to do, and be the person YOU WANT TO BE. You don't have to change AS A PERSON.

You just need to ADD something to your PERSONALITY, or to your "PERSON". And that is a sexual, seductive, subtle, mindset, that puts you in a natural sexual state and seductive mood around women. This "mood" brushes off on women and makes them naturally horny after you.

Check this out, the women don't really even have to like you at all. They don't have to like your lifestyle, your friends, your favorite t.v. show, your car, your job, whatever....but this sexual mood brushes off on them and makes them horny after you.

This is why a guy gets laid all the time. It's because he's added this concept to his personality.

That's why you see a different variety of guys getting laid. You'll see ugly guys, jerks, thugs, bad boys, fat guys, asian guys, black guys, business professionals, high school drop outs, a guy working at Burger King, a guy owning his own liquor shop........all I'm saying is that the guy can be whatever he wants because, WHO OR WHAT the guy is DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHY A WOMAN FVCKS A GUY....

Maybe now you understand what I was trying to say to you?

 

[Doggystyle]

When a rich person is in a bar, shops, gym etc... there isn't much separating him from a guy that is average in the wealth department. The only way you can tell is if he tells you and even then anybody could do that even if it wasn't true. Or wearing a big **** off diamond necklace, but that is over compensating a bit so will probably have the opposite effect on the attractiveness scale.

There is also a difference in people that have sweated blood to become wealthy and those that have been born into it and maybe spoiled a bit too much, not used to the realities of life. The difference is there mind set. The 1st person will be a lot more confident and have a lot more drive to achieve his goals, and that mind set is attractive. He will also be more motivated to achieve improve his looks and appreciate what he has more so is more likely to be happier.

 

[girl_in_a_boy_forum]

Sounds like another rehearsed banter coming out of 99% of women out there. If you believe that personality is the first thing this girl was looking for and really understand what attracted her to her man then my friend I got some magic beans I would like to sell to you.

Is it so difficult for you to believe that there are people out there who go for personality, not status, money, etc? Goodness, you must think of us as incredibly shallow creatures.

 

[DJDamage]

Is it so difficult for you to believe that there are people out there who go for personality, not status, money, etc? Goodness, you must think of us as incredibly shallow creatures.

Shallow is a socially contrived word to make both sexes feel bad on the mate selection they make so others who selected lower value mate will feel better about themsleves. This word does not exist in my world.

You did not look for personality. There were other factors at play here that you do not realise (and I am not talking about status) that made you attracted to your man and you are just trying to rationalise it in your mind ("oh boy personality! that is why I am attracted to him!").

Maybe this website is not for you, may I suggest you go to some mainstream Eharmony forum where you can dish out advice to guys and they will listen to you and will find themseleves walking in the dark and forever clueless.

 

[orlandorr]

Two words: Michael Jackson.

 

[lookyoung]

LookYoung what I am about to say is not intended to be a flame, it's just intended to assist you in your growth.

You said,

"Check this girls user cp out. She is a good looking girl. She is pretty cute, and by the way she posts she is smart also. She also posted how her boyfriend is 4 inches shorter than her, is broke, and is asian."

Okay, I didn't check out her user cp, but what's your point....

"What the hell is she doing with a short, broke, asian guy?"

Well, Lookyoung, what I've been trying to help you with for a while, especially in our previous flame war, was that the all the "QUALIFICATIONS" that you read on this site and others about what a guy MUST HAVE in order to get laid all the time is wrong.

They will tell you:

1. You must have money
2. You must be cool
3. You must workout
4. You must have great looks
5. You must walk this way
6. You must talk this way
7. You must dance this way

The list goes on and on.

What I had been trying to tell you, was that YOU PERSONALLY can do whatever you want to do, and be the person YOU WANT TO BE. You don't have to change AS A PERSON.

You just need to ADD something to your PERSONALITY, or to your "PERSON". And that is a sexual, seductive, subtle, mindset, that puts you in a natural sexual state and seductive mood around women. This "mood" brushes off on women and makes them naturally horny after you.

Check this out, the women don't really even have to like you at all. They don't have to like your lifestyle, your friends, your favorite t.v. show, your car, your job, whatever....but this sexual mood brushes off on them and makes them horny after you.

This is why a guy gets laid all the time. It's because he's added this concept to his personality.

That's why you see a different variety of guys getting laid. You'll see ugly guys, jerks, thugs, bad boys, fat guys, asian guys, black guys, business professionals, high school drop outs, a guy working at Burger King, a guy owning his own liquor shop........all I'm saying is that the guy can be whatever he wants because, WHO OR WHAT the guy is DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHY A WOMAN FVCKS A GUY....

Maybe now you understand what I was trying to say to you?

Thanks for trying to help with your advice. I disagree and agree with you.

1. Money will help you get laid.
2. Working out will help you get laid.
3. great looks will help you get laid.
4. Being a great dancer can also get you laid.
5. The most important thing to get someone laid is confidence.

I don't believe in changing as a person. Always be yourself. Always stand for what you believe in. But the main thing is I believe in self improvement.


Money, working out, great looks are small components that give you the confidence to be successful in life as well as woman. When you workout you look good, feel good, and feel a sense of achievement. Money helps you do the things you want to do to enjoy yourself, which gives you confidence. Great looks help people be more open towards you, and they treat you better. All these things = confidence which is the most important thing in being successful in life, and with woman.


The seductive and sexual mood comes with confidence. A guy that is not confident is never going to be in that mood around woman.


There are many things to help a guys confidence with woman.
1. Money
2. Looks
3. Past success with woman.
4. Lots of friends.
5. Hobbies.
6. Good family.
7. Good body.
8. Intelligent.


Get my point the list goes on and on. There are probably 100 things that shape a guys confidence and these are some of them.

DJF- CONFIDENCE IS KING WITH WOMAN. everthing else runs a distant second.

I always say it doesn't matter what you say to a girl but How you say it. Remember guys confidence.

 

[DJF or John]

Look Young, excellent post, and just to supplement and add to, and expand on what you just said,

"1. Money will help you get laid.
2. Working out will help you get laid.
3. great looks will help you get laid.
4. Being a great dancer can also get you laid.
5. The most important thing to get someone laid is confidence."

Confidence is a strong word, but just to add to this, I believe that a confident person is a comfortable person......however certain things in life do make for us at times to be "uncomfortable." While I certainly agree that money, a great body, great looks, and great dancing will ASSIST in getting you laid, I do believe that confidence is also an ASSIST and not the actual shot.


"When you workout you look good, feel good, and feel a sense of achievement. Money helps you do the things you want to do to enjoy yourself, which gives you confidence. Great looks help people be more open towards you, and they treat you better. All these things = confidence which is the most important thing in being successful in life, and with woman."

Actually LookYoung, I know a lot of guys with great bodies and no love for themselves and no confidence. I know guys with money and with no sense of self worth. I know people with great looks but are shy and insecure. All of these things IN THEIRSELVES, should just make a guy EXPERIENCED IN THAT FIELD...but these things don't really LEAD to confidence with women, they lead to confidence in that particular area. If I have money, I KNOW how to go out and make MORE. If I have a great body, I know how to go out and KEEP IT GROWING. If I have great looks, I know how to LOOK GREAT. But these 3 things don't ness. equal = confidence with women, they equal confidence in that particular area. Women actually is another separate area.


" DJF- CONFIDENCE IS KING WITH WOMAN. everthing else runs a distant second. I always say it doesn't matter what you say to a girl but How you say it. Remember guys confidence."

Confidence LookYoung is a SINGLE SOLE, TAILORED, "AREA." What do I mean by that? See, if I've been successful in business, I am CONFIDENT in business. Why am I confident? Well, because I KNOW how to succeed in business, so I can relax, be comfortable, and know that I HAVE everything under control.

Confidence with women comes from being successful with women, and one is only successful with women once he KNOWS what works and why it worked. Only then can that man be truly confident, and truly comfortable. Success with women comes from the sexual and seductive mindset and mood, one does NOT have to be totally comfortable and confident UPFRONT to project this attitude and carry this attitude. One could totally, FAKE COMFORTABLENESS. Basically, if they focused solely on being sexual, they would forget they weren't so confident eventually! Then what happens, yes, now the guy starts to KNOW what works with women, and automatically relaxes.

Confidence does not = success, wisdom in an area equals success. Confidence comes as a result of "comfortableness" in an area, and one will only be comfortable, once they know that they "have it under control."

- John

 

[lookyoung]

DJF- Good point. :rockon: I totally agree about confidence being Seperated into different areas.

Your right a guy could be confident in business and not know a thing about getting a girl or vice versa.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

Listen not too get off the topic. But to all the sosuave members check this girls user cp out. She is a good looking girl. She is pretty cute, and by the way she posts she is smart also. She also posted how her boyfriend is 4 inches shorter than her, is broke, and is asian.


Now an honest question for the girl in the boy forum??? What the hell are you doing with a short, broke, asian guy? Don't mean to flame just kind of curious?????????

1. she is cute yes based on the one pic I saw of her. Im assuming the pic is real.

2. although MOST women dont care about money, some do (the gold diggers or really shallow women who have an ego/reputation to maintain)

3.her BF is asian..... Its unusual for a white woman to go for asian men, which is why it is obvious that girl in a boy forum is not your typical woman, and is not representative of the female population. The fact that she has an interest in posting on this site is another example of why she is not your typical woman, most women would luagh at this site and would have no interest in posting on it. So I suggest you guys DO NOT use girl_in_a_boy_forum as a model to compare other/most women to, it would be a horribly innacurate model.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

Sounds like another rehearsed banter coming out of 99% of women out there. If you believe that personality is the first thing this girl was looking for and really understand what attracted her to her man then my friend I got some magic beans I would like to sell to you.

I agree with you on that.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

"What the hell is she doing with a short, broke, asian guy?"

Well, Lookyoung, what I've been trying to help you with for a while, especially in our previous flame war, was that the all the "QUALIFICATIONS" that you read on this site and others about what a guy MUST HAVE in order to get laid all the time is wrong.

They will tell you:

1. You must have money
2. You must be cool
3. You must workout
4. You must have great looks
5. You must walk this way
6. You must talk this way
7. You must dance this way

The list goes on and on.

post your evidence proving why it is wrong now!! you know better than that, posting controversial claims without having evidence to back them

What I had been trying to tell you, was that YOU PERSONALLY can do whatever you want to do, and be the person YOU WANT TO BE. You don't have to change AS A PERSON.

You just need to ADD something to your PERSONALITY, or to your "PERSON". And that is a sexual, seductive, subtle, mindset, that puts you in a natural sexual state and seductive mood around women. This "mood" brushes off on women and makes them naturally horny after you.

You just contridicted yourself. 1st your say you dont have to change, then you say you have to add something to your personality. Well, if you added something to your personality, then it would be different than it was before you added something. Therefore it was a change. So which is it? you do need to change your personality or you dont?

Please stop posting as if you know what you are talking about, you dont.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

Is it so difficult for you to believe that there are people out there who go for personality, not status, money, etc? Goodness, you must think of us as incredibly shallow creatures.

I dont think anyone out there is challenging you when you say some people arent shallow. Atleast I dont. I understand that women are different, some are shallow, some are not. Some require looks, some dont. some like em tall, some like em short, some like big noses, some dont, etc.

But when we say things like "women require a guy to be good looking" we are speaking about the typical woman, the type of woman who makes up majority of the population. we are not actually implying that ::ALL:: women are this way. I mean, It is true that the typical woman is shallow to some degree. We might not be making this clear when we make such general statements, but for future reference, this is what we mean. Atleast, this is what I mean when I make generalizing statements like that.

 

[Abbott]

Money as a source to women will only attract gold-diggers & trophy wives. Think about that.

Aren't all women like that?


Plus I sincerely think that Bill Gates and Warren Buffett can get any woman they want, just because they have lots of money.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

Aren't all women like that?


Plus I sincerely think that Bill Gates and Warren Buffett can get any woman they want, just because they have lots of money.

LOL, no not all women are gold diggers. some are though. Im sorry you are naive.

 

[persiangino]

LOL, no not all women are gold diggers. some are though. Im sorry you are naive.

I'm sorry you're naive. If you have money and have the pimp/player aura women will flock to you. Unless you are very ugly and or short or have no style.