Reminder: The importance of checking bad behavior the moment you notice it.

[Chow Mein]

I think it comes down to valuing yourself, realizing you are a rarity and dating you/being a friend of yours is a privledge.

Ofcourse that has to be true..
if you are crushing it in your career, crushing it in the gym and make an effort to be a good person you’ve already got 95% of men beat and you are infact worthy of a higher level of respect.

And more chances to date women out of your league

 

[jhonny9546]

if you are crushing it in your career, crushing it in the gym and make an effort to be a good person you’ve already got 95% of men beat and you are infact worthy of a higher level of respect.

Good point.
I can say effort are 100% on all ones, but since we are talking about opportunities, my career now look like ****.
This doesn't mean I don't put effort on it.
I'm just interested in so many things I am still in the tryout phase

And more chances to date women out of your league

After hitting the gym, this revelead me the women of my league.
Certain women just have a higher interest for me, while others don't.
I never chase.

 

[RangerMIke]

In my experience bad behavior does not get better with time. If I notice something I don't like about ANYONE, not just women, they are done. Too many people in the world to put up with those that make my free time more like work.

I've already raised children into adulthood.... I'm not spending my later years teaching some chick how to behave. She either behaves or she's done.

I've been alive for over 5 decades... let me share something that I've learned in all this time. Behavior is not an accident... behavior defines the person. You can not change or fix a woman who is doing things that you do not like. If a woman is 'misbehaving' one of three things is going on

(1) She doesn't know how to behave because she was raised by wolves, and/or is emotionally damaged by other men. You can not fvcking fix this.... only if she spends time and money in therapy will she become a normal human being... not your job to correct this.

(2) She doesn't really see you as an option, she misbehaves because she doesn't care or she is trying to run you off. (This BTW is the most common)

(3) She is not sane.

It's best to just move on before you get too emotionally attached to a difficult woman. It is better to be alone than to tolerate any one of the three types of women described above.

 

[jhonny9546]

@RangerMIke would you mind to share with us your LTR stories and actual situation?

I know a borderline woman (3) which is trying to improve (1) but in the meanwhile with two kids and his husband, I can see she have those high and lows. She love him then she have drama and want to end the LTR.
He is keeping her, disrespect from her, but we'll see how it goes.

 

[Barrister]

Another idea that's great in theory, but counter productive in practice.

I am a bit confused I must say as to what the sentiment of this forum is anymore. Is it for picking up women with the intention of sleeping with them, or finding long term wife / mother of children potential candidates?

If the latter, then this is a huge undertaking which many would consider a lost cause in the United States, and for good reason. There is only so much correction of train tracks you can mend before the train flies off the cliff, the entire railroad would need to be deconstructed and the land reformed in order for the train to get to this "final destination".

Every man would love to find a HB 9+ who wasn't crazy, did whatever he wanted, never sh1t tested him, and "fell in line." Unfortunately, this isn't reality.

I agree with OP's original post in principle, but I think the bigger point is that all of these relationships whether they are plates, STRs, or LTRs have a shelf-life of the woman bending over backwards for the guy. No LTR exists without its moments where the woman challenges the man. You MUST have tolerance if you want the LTR to last and be willing to compromise. You can perceive it as "disrespect", but the reality is this stuff is usually more about the woman's personal issues than it is about "disrespecting" the man. It is unrealistic to think a man is going to be a dictator with an iron first in a relationship forever just because he "corrects" her bad behavior. It won't last.

You can either keep mending those tracks or you can say the juice is no longer worth the squeeze. Personally, I prefer to exit if it becomes untenable. Some guys don't and will simply coexist in some type of semi-unhappy state with a woman for decades.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Every man would love to find a HB 9+ who wasn't crazy, did whatever he wanted, never sh1t tested him, and "fell in line." Unfortunately, this isn't reality.

I agree with OP's original post in principle, but I think the bigger point is that all of these relationships whether they are plates, STRs, or LTRs have a shelf-life of the woman bending over backwards for the guy. No LTR exists without its moments where the woman challenges the man. You MUST have tolerance if you want the LTR to last and be willing to compromise. You can perceive it as "disrespect", but the reality is this stuff is usually more about the woman's personal issues than it is about "disrespecting" the man. It is unrealistic to think a man is going to be a dictator with an iron first in a relationship forever just because he "corrects" her bad behavior. It won't last.

You can either keep mending those tracks or you can say the juice is no longer worth the squeeze. Personally, I prefer to exit if it becomes untenable. Some guys don't and will simply coexist in some type of semi-unhappy state with a woman for decades.

Right - you said it better and more thoroughly than I was going to.

Two things can be true because they are independent of each other; recurring behavior or any number of issues can be a decisive point for someone to exit… but what bothers OP doesn’t necessarily bother or have the same effect or meaning to anyone else here, and may actually be seen entirely differently and embraced by someone receiving that commentary from a place of personal security who is interested in working through conflict for personal growth.

Also, unmentioned is that OP is also not perfect. I am pretty sure I saw a thread a few days ago from this poster that went from 0->10 over a very short, introductory level text exchange, that some may have felt was a bit overblown.