Redpilled POV is hard

[jhonny9546]

Redpill opens our eyes to understanding why marriages often fail, why the job security promised by companies is largely illusory, and so much more. I could elaborate on numerous other examples, but that would only add unnecessary length to this discussion.

The point is this: when you begin to question everything you once believed and adjust your core values to align with a more realistic worldview, it feels as though you become more aware of these truths. However, you may find that you can no longer enjoy life as fully as you once did.

To illustrate this, I will share an example of a friend who found himself in a challenging situation—one that I imagine you may have experienced as well. He is very much a blue pill person; he never knew about the red pill. Through his "faith", along with self-help books, he "self-conditioned" himself and managed to overcome his difficulties by creating a profession he believes in. What I want to convey is that the red pill offers us a new perspective that challenges the beliefs instilled by society. It restructures our value system but also diminishes the strength that the blue pill provided—namely, the strength derived from "self-conditioning."

You know how when you read a self-help book, you recognize it as a blue pill concept? Yet at the same time, it benefits you because it inspires change and reinforces the self-conditioning that leads you to believe in your potential for improvement. Adopting the red pill may give you what feels like the right knowledge, but it can lead to a more miserable existence. In contrast, embracing the blue pill might make you somewhat naïve and prone to mistakes; however, without awareness of those mistakes, you might actually enjoy life much more.

It would be awesome to hear your take on this.
If someone had this issue also

 

[plumber]

What is the root of happy and satisfaction?

Have you read "The 48 laws of Power" by Robert Greene ?

I only know of one tool that can counteract evolutionary drivers. Red pill is simply an explanation of the rules of evolutionary drivers for humans and many other creatures.

Another very interesting read is "The Red Queen" by Matt Ridley.

A blue pill man is different than a blue pill man with a red pill core. What is really really ugly is a red pill man with a blue core. Doing enough work to become enlightened is a very large task.

I also love fairy tails and fables. If I had one wish I would make many of them true.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I was Blue pilled. Divorce made me Red/Black pilled. However. I’m happy.

 

[jhonny9546]

I think we were all Blue-Pilled at some point, and then we experienced that plot twist.

The thing is, once you come to know certain truths, it's hard to maintain that "Blue-Pilled irrational force" that once drove you where the Red Pill alone could not.

There should be a version of ourselves that can rediscover this force, even with all that knowledge.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I think we were all Blue-Pilled at some point, and then we experienced that plot twist.

Not everybody grew up with Disney. The original fairy tales are far darker that the sanitised Disney version.

 

[Gamisch]

The R(eality)pill is indeed hard. But you will swallow it either way. When dealing with women an ( to us men)entirely different world opens up. We don't bleed every month. We don't get protected nor attacked due to our sexual assets. So once you get close to a woman you will be part of ALL of her..whimpering. the good the bad and the ugly..you wanna play with these h0es don't yA, well there a price to be payed!

That's why a lotta men don't deal with it. The only way to keep a society bluepill is by forcing laws on the people( Sharia law, orthodoxy Christian rule).

It's an interesting phenomenon that once a society makes progress, that a large portion of men becomes invisible to women. On the other hand you can argue that humanity always used men as disposable and women never had a steady team as in they ended up with the conqueror/winner. Atrocities seem to be tye first thing on the minds of the conquering party, even today you keep hearing how women in modern wars get abused by soldiers.

Vikings already went passport bro-ing. When the situation got stale...they went away looking for better elsewhere. The entire dynamic how we became what we are is drained with abuse, grape and such. Perhaps an explanation why women want the badboy. If it wasn't for a badboy she wouldn't be alive today because the weak boy got slaughtered end of story.

Now add the phenomenon of Internet and voilà, we are where we are today. Seeing things for what they are is also redpill. I guess we haven't figured out a way to adjust yet.

Personally I believe that in MY life is all about how I move ,feel ,the energy that I give ect. But I'm clueless how society as a whole should move.

 

[jhonny9546]

So once you get close to a woman you will be part of ALL of her..whimpering. the good the bad and the ugly..you wanna play with these h0es don't yA, well there a price to be payed!

A total waste of time. You can tell right away if she's very materialistic and likes to do high status things, or things she sees others do. No thanks. I'm more for the "weird" but normal girl. Who gets really turned on and feels intimate if I pick her up and take her with me, alone, by the sea, to watch the sunset.

I'm not the type who likes to scream hysteria at you while we're stuck on the highway, headed to New York City for our vacation together.

 

[Gamisch]

A total waste of time. You can tell right away if she's very materialistic and likes to do high status things, or things she sees others do. No thanks. I'm more for the "weird" but normal girl. Who gets really turned on and feels intimate if I pick her up and take her with me, alone, by the sea, to watch the sunset.

I'm not the type who likes to scream hysteria at you while we're stuck on the highway, headed to New York City for our vacation together.

Well ,here's the thing tho; ARGUABLY all of the examples you've given are typical typical female behaviors. So ARGUABLY it's just part of being with "her". Starting with the materialism. I try to understand both sides when listening to an argument. And TONS of women argue they are materialic for good reasons.

The men I described in another thread ( beta simps on years long dryspells who recently got into freaking marriages) are all men who WILL get the hysterical Karen when they go on a trip ,sit at home ect. But they will say " oh well, women gonna women!"

The woman you described might not exist...long term.

 

[jhonny9546]

The woman you described might not exist...long term.

Why not? I trust your experience

 

[Gamisch]

Why not? I trust your experience

I have yet to encounter or even just hear about one woman who is like your description. Yes, a woman can be great in a social setting, but once the curtains close...especially if you have to deal with her everyday. And hey, if you as a man don't mind then go ahead.
All I know is that accepting a woman's flaws will come back to bite you later down the road.

Even when her attraction to you is the highest it can be, you will still deal with bs. If attraction is low but it more of an arrangement...then I wish you best of luck.

Most people don't accept themselves but still want/ demand others to accept them for who they are. So I rather be with women who keep on their "6 months best behavior " mask then to wait it out untill the wheels fall off.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I have yet to encounter or even just hear about one woman who is like your description.

Then again, you're not in Italy.

Why not? I trust your experience

You shouldn't. And not because @Gamisch isn't speaking the truth. He's speaking his truth, but his truth isn't yours. Even if you were similar, you still move in different circles. You should listen to his experiences, but you have to be able to relate them to who he is and where he is.

Neither should be trust my experience. We might both be West-European, but Italian culture and society differs too much from Dutch culture and society that whatever you might learn from my experience would most likely not be applicable in your situation.

 

[Ricky]

I think its good to be aware of human nature, but being a positive energetic person in spite of it all is more fun.

Be a great seducer but also be someone that can be not just a pick up artist, but a pick me up artist. Boost the moods of others. It can be a dark world out there and a lot of people may be in need of that boost. I think its part of my purpose. Sure i can spend time being a deep thinker and being pessismist, but when i can and where i can i work on being upbeat and positive. It can depend on the day and the hour, we can't possibly always be upbeat but its way better to spend as much time upbeat as we can instead of wallowing in the mud.

Believe you can do it. There is a world of opportunity out there.

 

[plumber]

The woman you described might not exist...long term.

they do exist. we do not select them. they do not excite us, they do not turn on our drivers. they usually will try VERY hard doing everything and anything. its almost like a flip of the whole situation. they doing everything they can while we look over the fence.

have had it both ways, same ending.

no solution to this.

maybe arranged marriage with rules is the solution. or no legal arrangements and openly monetize all of it. or more of a tribal arrangements.

 

[jhonny9546]

So I rather be with women who keep on their "6 months best behavior " mask then to wait it out untill the wheels fall off.

You say this because you gave up?
So you only feed on the first phase, the most beautiful, love bombing?

You should listen to his experiences, but you have to be able to relate them to who he is and where he is.

Neither should be trust my experience. We might both be West-European, but Italian culture and society differs too much from Dutch culture and society that whatever you might learn from my experience would most likely not be applicable in your situation.

This is what I do. Mostly like AI: you give it a big set of data and end up with a "median" answer to your question

no solution to this.

From what I've understood, you're saying you had two LTR with two different unicorn which didn't worked?

 

[Gamisch]

You say this because you gave up?
So you only feed on the first phase, the most beautiful, love bombing?

This is what I do. Mostly like AI: you give it a big set of data and end up with a "median" answer to your question

From what I've understood, you're saying you had two LTR with two different unicorn which didn't worked?

I go with the natural flow. Thorough analysis showed me that around the 6 months mark is when shyte gets stale.

If it was up to me I would pick one from the girlfriend shop and start a nuclear family TODAY. Unfortunately reality has his own ideas and whatnot

 

[jhonny9546]

I go with the natural flow. Thorough analysis showed me that around the 6 months mark is when shyte gets stale.

Have you ever been this close to finding a great mate for an LTR or mother of your kids?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Have you ever been this close to finding a great mate for an LTR or mother of your kids?

 

[jhonny9546]

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Beautiful women, are those your plates?

 

[zekko]

Have you read "The 48 laws of Power" by Robert Greene ?

I tried reading this back when I first got into the manosphere, because it was one of the recommended books.
Honestly, although I'm sure there is material in there that can be used, it's just too manipulative and cynical for my taste.
I couldn't live my life like that.

 

[jhonny9546]

Honestly, although I'm sure there is material in there that can be used, it's just too manipulative and cynical for my taste.
I couldn't live my life like that.

It's good to know those things, but then I'm the same track of you!
It's not that you cannot do that, apply to your life.
But it's like not living "well" for me. It starts from within