reddit: Crazy how a single company can essentially force you to become an incel

[Bingo-Player]

There are other bottom of the barrel methods. Structured singles events (singles mixers and speed dating) and Meetup.com group events are two other truly bottom of the barrel methods. Quality women do not go to structured singles events and Meetup.com group events.

Do you agree on the other bottom of the barrel methods I identified?

No because if you're in a big metro area you will get a huge variety of new arrivals and immigrants going to them and it is possible to find some gems

Local women yea generally will probably be lower quality if they are going to these things

The gym is a good place for a woman who knows what she wants , if done correctly you can build rapport which can build into attraction

Other than that you just need to get very lucky in your day to day life

and of course nightlife is the most popular avenue but extremely physically draining

 

[SW15]

if you're in a big metro area you will get a huge variety of new arrivals and immigrants going to them and it is possible to find some gems

Local women yea generally will probably be lower quality if they are going to these things

Dallas, Texas is one of the biggest metros in the USA and gets a lot of new arrivals from smaller towns in Texas, other parts of the USA, and some international arrivals. I mentioned this in the initial post of the "Observations of Dallas' Scene".

I'll agree with your point on local women at singles events.

It's possible to get lucky with new arrivals but it's still going to take big effort.

The gym is a good place for a woman who knows what she wants , if done correctly you can build rapport which can build into attraction

Gym can be good. It has the earbud issue. Fitness classes (either within a gym or a standalone studio concept like SoulCycle or Title Boxing) solve the earbud problem and offer great ratios but women aren't very sociable before/after class. It's likely many have existing boyfriends but aren't disclosing that.

Other than that you just need to get very lucky in your day to day life

and of course nightlife is the most popular avenue but extremely physically draining

Agree!

 

[Bingo-Player]

It's likely many have existing boyfriends but aren't disclosing that.

Think you will struggle to find any woman in this hyper connected world that isnt linked in some way to an ex or an orbiter or a FWB

there was a chick in my gym last year who was giving me very hot / cold signals , some days she would be red hot then she would vanish for weeks

One day we were training together she just announced she was actually single and some guy she had been seeing had ghosted her

Alarm bells were ringing then so I just pulled back

Sure enough 3 weeks later she shows up to the gym with a dude , and then about another week after that announces on instagram they are back together

 

[MatureDJ]

I've been in Istanbul and Bodrum, but I think that in Turkey there's a big difference in a 'dating scene' in the cities than in the villages and the more remote regions.

The Netherlands is a tiny country, but even we have twelve 'provinces' with totally different characters, from the west that is urban and congested to the east which is agrarian and the south hugging Belgium/Luxembourg/Germany. Amsterdam has a completely different dating scene from Zwolle or Tilburg or Groningen.

It must be nice to go out and sarge one night, and if you strike out, you just go to a window girl ...

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

They aren't really into you though thats proved by the terrible response rate on these apps and people pretend men are doing it too but I bet if you crunched the numbers it will be women mainly ghosting men ,

there's this attitude of like " eh this guy seems alright lets see if he can impress me " which most of the time he never can ...

Nah bro. In a lot of these apps, if you have the right pics and hit off, especially once you get her number and get her off the apps, it becomes a breeze. I just remember back to when I had Hinge and how I could get a date a week. A part of me is not discounting cold approach but it should always be done in conjunction with online dating or IG game, never as a main source of leads. You are going to be miserable if that is what you do.

 

[itouchyou]

cold approach is simple

1) be attractive
2) don't be pushy/needy

 

[MatureDJ]

cold approach is simple

1) be attractive
2) don't be pushy/needy

You forgot "don't be short".