Raped... kick his ass?

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Krassus - Because it's not your job to do it!

I have been told by girls/women why they tell guys this. I have been told by girls myself this. It's to manipulate you.

Women aren't weak FFS - There are laws in this day and age, we're not ****ing King Arthur out to protect our princess. Girls use this misguided notion of chivalary to control us and use us.

If she means something to you (a LTR, wife) then sure take it as honest and decide your course of action, but take it as manipulation if it's from a girl you hardly know.

Don't be a smuck. Never trust her until she has earned your trust.
 

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Krassus said:
Now why would you say something like that? Do you really believe that all those who disagree with you are idiots? Listen. This universe is perfectly just. If you harm someone, it always and i mean ALWAYS comes back to you in some shape or form. Now, raping a girl is a horrible fvcking thing to do. For that, some serious justice needs to be dealt out. And i would be perfectly content, even happy, to be the one who delivers it. Defending (and if it's too late to defend, avenging) the weak is our responsibility, it's in our blood.


There is the law. I would always question the intentions (and veracity) of ANY woman that gives "rape" story to a boyfriend...especially if that "rapist" was never reported to the authorities. Now telling the story to a family member? That's another thing.

Only a FOOL and a MORON would act under these circunstances. In fact, the chances of that FOOL and MORON being rape in prison are greater.

And concerning the "Defending (and if it's too late to defend, avenging) the weak is our responsibility, it's in our blood" remark...why, instead of writing about it in this page, why don't you volunteer and fight in Sudan and defend those killed (genocides). I will tell you why: because you are full of $hit.

Save your machismo for those that don't understand what tough is really about.
 

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If she means something to you (a LTR, wife) then sure take it as honest and decide your course of action, but take it as manipulation if it's from a girl you hardly know.
I still wouldn't do anything. The title of LTR or wife does not change anything nor make a woman less manipulative.

EVEN if it is truth...then why didn't she report that to the authorities? Hmmmm...

My job as a man is not to avenge her for something she got involved years ago prior to meeting me. My job as a man is to protect her NOW.
 

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**** Latinoman - You're even more cynical than I am.

I'm assuming that you "might" just trust a LTG or Wife. If you don't then why would she be your LTG or Wife.

She wouldn't report it because she would be scared to and/or there was no evidence. Rape is quite common and most don't get reported as they are done by people she knows and it's a case of his word versus mine, therefore she doesn't want to put herself through that. It take alot of courage to acuse someone you know of rape, it's easier to try and bury the memory.

Also it is normally not quite clear cut, she thinks it was rape, he thinks she wanted it etc. She "feels" like it was rape but might not have said no etc.
 

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There are very few good reasons to commit a violent act and this is definitely not one of them. You don't even know for sure what happened. By now if the police have never been involved then she isn't going to be able to prove it because there is no forensic examination that is going to tell whether two people had sex weeks or months hence.

The only police involvement there will be here is going to be about you if you decide to do this. I know people with felony convictions because of stupid macho crap like this and can't get even get a decent job because of it.
 

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apparently some of you don't realize you could get thrown in jail or have lawsuits against you all for some dime a dozen chick

are some of you that stupid or do you just have absolutely nothing to lose so you don't mind jailtime?
 
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DonJuanForever said:
It's crazy because me being a black guy, most of the stuff we do to women would be considered rape, lol.

Like when I go up to a girl it's usually very aggressive, I smack her azz, and when I am fvckin her or about to fvck her, I literally pick her azz up, throw her on the bed, and go very hard on top of her. Seriously. All this really without her saying, "yeah baby, come fvck me."
Hey DonJuanForever, I was hoping to get some advice to you.

If I see a girl in public, especially a black girl with a bubble butt, do you know what I'm talking about, and there is some minimal rapport, do you think it's cool to give her one good grope up her butt? I've never done it before, but I was thinking of doing it this one time with a girl in the gym. But she was with another female and guy friend nearby, but she was eyeing me, and smiling at me, and we had a small converasation. I wanted to get her number, but I just folded and left the gym.

I thought that if you groped a girl, that they would call the cops on you, make up a stir, or just go crazy, insane, and go ballistic, and besides their butt could also stink too, but other than that, I have entertained the thought of giving some people some good gropes and doing them right on the spot (ie washroom, back of my car, or discreet alleyway).

So you go up aggressively and smak women up their butt - are you working? do you have anything to lose if some freak calls the cops and lays a charge that you groped her? Could you really grope someone and they will like it?

Believe me, if it was socially acceptable, legally acceptable and encouraged to grope, then lots of people will be groping people. You honestly mean to say you grope people as an approach. I mean, I'd like to smack some people very hard on their butt on an approach, and say ' I"m sorry, I saw a fly there and had to kill it, can I have your phone number?' but I'm a bit of an AFC I suppose.
 

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Here comes Captain Save-a-ho. Anything that happened before you met her is not your responsibility.

Also, women lie. Regretted sex is often rationalized as rape after the fact, especially where it is socially inconvinient to admit the affair was consensual, e.g a woman from a racist background hooks up with a black dude, but her dad finds out. Her word against his, he gets the shaft.

Also, women deliberately play the vulnerable role at times to stir up sympathy as a form of attention. I know this one calamiy-prone girl who would come running to me every time something bad happened to her, surgery, etc etc. Eventually I stopped giving a ****.
 

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Leave it to the authorities. Police and lawyers get paid to handle rape cases. Your viginatism does no one anygood and can result in you getting in trouble. Guys that rape usually end up getting raped in jail, that should be more then enough justice for you.
 

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I had a friend who was really raped before, and years after it she was still cutting her own wrists every night, once she bumped into the guy when she was shopping and she tried to kill herself by driving real fast on the freeway, etc.

THen i met 2 girls who told me some guy tried to rape her. Both still continued seeing the guy on dates. I didn't do anything but I thought "what a slimebag" and stopped being so friendly to the guy. A few weeks later she told me off for being so "mean" to him. THey were users and manipulators.
 

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d9930380 said:
I'm assuming that you "might" just trust a LTG or Wife. If you don't then why would she be your LTG or Wife.
I agree! Most guys here dont get that because they've never dealt with a long term partner who they trust so they measure all women by the small amount of girls theyve hooked up with or the large amount of women who have rejected them.

If you cant trust your long term girlfriend or wife you either have a bad relationship or you have some serious trust issues and insecurities!

About kicking his ass and seeking revenge I advice strongly against it! There was a similar thread to this not long ago and the avenging boyfriend got landed in jail. Try encouraging your girlfriend to report it and file charges instead.
 

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TheFlyingMan said:
I had a friend who was really raped before, and years after it she was still cutting her own wrists every night, once she bumped into the guy when she was shopping and she tried to kill herself by driving real fast on the freeway, etc.

THen i met 2 girls who told me some guy tried to rape her. Both still continued seeing the guy on dates. I didn't do anything but I thought "what a slimebag" and stopped being so friendly to the guy. A few weeks later she told me off for being so "mean" to him. THey were users and manipulators.
It's so sad that b*tches like those in the 2nd example cause many serious rape cases to go unbelieved and unreported! Any girl (or guy) who cries rape should face serious charges! If anyone said that about me, I'd not let it drop at that. I'd gather witnesses then sue them for slander!
 

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If the guy is harrassing either of you then the situation needs taking care of. However if its something in the past I wouldn't worry about it too much. I actually had to deal with this once between two mutual friends who were very close friends of each other though not as serious of a situation as you mentioned. One night friend1 cracked jokes about a lady he used to date while me and friend2 were in the room. We all had a good laugh. A week later friend2 hooks up with friend1's ex. Then for a hot second he was acting upset about the comments. He finally realized that friend1 is not psychic and a really cool dude. Friend2 married friend1's ex. Unless police were involved its all just rumour. Even if the police were involved they probably slapped some form of punishment on him or at the very least a restraining order.
 

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Is a seductionist any different from a rapist. Maybe he does it without any resistence, maybe he took advantage of her vulnerabilities and she probably thanked him afterwards... he just made a total ho out of her and got away clean...

Maybe after she's tried to contact him and all he does is ignore her, she feels cheated, shamed and in a way, some LSE chick could rationalise that they were raped....

I just dont think you guys are ready for relationship is you can't bear the thought of another mans **** violating the sweetness that you have right now.. even if it was done before you. Its like they got to her first and spat her out as seconds for you to come and scoop up the scraps...
 

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d9930380 said:
Krassus - Because it's not your job to do it!
Of course not, it's my priviledge :)

However, note that i did say that all of this applies ONLY if the fact that she actually was raped can be CONFIRMED.
 

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hmmm...

if you ever date porn stars or strippers, you'd probably be facing a pretty long line of people to assault, and probably a lot in their very own family tree. would you go after them one at a time or schedule a get together for a no holds barred 'battle royale' where you take em on all at once....

i'd stock up on your ointments and nunchucks and such whichever way you go...

oh... and they might have guns.

and that's an interesting point, if you INITIATE an assault out of nowhere, he might be able to kill you and claim self defense - he wouldn't even be in trouble with the law for that! wouldn't that be a stupid way to die? the details of it all would just sound so dumb as your friends talked about it for the years before they forgot you... "remember bill? guy who tried to beat up that guy who raped that girl 5 years ago? he got shot didn't he? in the face... dang..." hard to be a pua from the grave.

and what if he held you back with a gun cuz the idea of getting beat up didn't agree with him? would you come back with one?

and that's the dumb thing about assault and fighting in general outside of movies... WHAT ARE THE GROUND RULES and WHO SAYS?

"now now, put the gun down. i just want to beat you up... nothing serious... just a good old fashion ass whoopin. ok?'"

sure, you might be looking for an old west saloon, "roadhouse" brawl, who isn't?... but if you really are bigger and stronger, what's to keep the guy from going for your groin or throat or eyes or other 'self defense' regions and techniques?

answer is nothing.

sure, your reasoning might be, "just stand there and let me give you a beating and i'll be on my way"... but he might not be too keen on that. in which case, you might be right hooking his face while he palms a key, shiv, other assorted weapon, and is looking to jam it into your temple.

and you need your temple.

the real question should be: would you MAIM/KILL someone who raped this girl you met and are you willing to BE MAINED/DIE for it.

unless you're willing and trying to kill someone, fighting just doesn't make sense.

also, would you beat the guy up if he's weaker, older, frail(er) than you and you would certainly win? that strikes me as less than manly. and a better problem: would you assault him if he's MUCH LARGER, MUCH STRONGER and you are CERTAIN TO LOSE? cuz that strikes me as less than intelligent.

and if the answer to both questions is no, then you have a VERY narrow range of rapists which you can honorably pummel.... (lol... i crack myself up).

and if he starts doing some real damage to you, whether by playing "by the rules" or not, then what? you'll get pretty angry right? will you escalate? will you go to jail? what if you end up not so pretty any more? will it have been worth it? what if she dumps you? will SHE have been worth it?

finally, cops/law/judges don't look too kindly on vigilantes - which you would be playing at. i wouldn't expect a mere slap on the wrist (or a covert pat on the back)... really... jail time? you'd do jail time for it? [oh yeah... we live in a sue happy society too - and since it did NOT involve you in ANY WAY WHATSOEVER, he could very successfully sue you as well... really... bankruptcy? garnished wages? really?]

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if we're talking imminent threat and a guy has come up to you stating clearly and articulately that he is going to rape your girlfriend from right out beneath you, well, that's one thing.

or if a guy's got your girl pinned and his c0ck's in midflight coming straight in for the first rapey plunge, sure, you'd leap through the air in slow motion yelling "nooooooooooo!", extend your palm out and literally c0ck block like the goal tending sonofa***** you are... sure we'd all do that!

but especially if it's from her distant past (and yeah, who's to say what's distant right? ANOTHER problem), it's HER problem. if she called the police then it's been dealt with. if not, then she's the one that's got some stuff to get past.

if we all try to be special victim unit batmen trying to right rapey wrongs, we'd probably have precious little time actually getting laid....

it's about priorities. and in the pua community, WHO do we put on the pedestal? that's right, US. our lives. our faces. our temples. since when do we become hitmen for women?

delta

p.s. UNLESS you have a time machine... if you have the option of going back in time and preventing her rape, then i would strongly suggest that.... but then, i might not ever be born... sob....
 
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