Rage against the racism BETA machine

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10 years on sosuave but still hasn't mastered "indifference" yet like a true Alpha...

And that reminds me. Stop sending me those gay passive aggressive PM's under the guise of your "indifference" you clown. You and that other drama queen gaylan can put all the smiley faces the site has got. U still mad.

nothing wrong with that but only Beta's are dating these types, alphas like you don't have to worry about low quality skankers right bloke?

I don't sure, but apparently it drives dudes like you wild if whitey doesn't want her for more than a P&D. Once again, deal with it fairy.

 

[Solomon]

I respond to BB agreeing with him and now I'm a "keyboard jockey" for pointing out how BOTH sides have problems.


Solomon, you are the PRIME example of a butthurt black person who hates on whitey for saying facts. You should try for once to let that butthurt go, and analyze what people are saying without getting all ego-invested in your position.

The facts remain, the thug element amongst blacks is giving the rest of you a bad name. Getting mad at me or whitey doesn't address that issue, it only makes even MORE of you look like @sses.

Equally, white people overaddress the issue by viewing all blacks as thugs. The problem goes in both directions. For some reason, that isn't good enough for you and suddenly you go crazy and start name-calling..

*Yawn*

There they go again with the name calling and the strawmans.
So now because I don't agree with ya I hate "whitey" strong logic.....

I don't sure, but apparently it drives dudes like you wild if whitey doesn't want her for more than a P&D. Once again, deal with it fairy.

Honestly I can't take you serious with that comment, you must be hitting sauce again B-Cup. Your ignorance and hatred is showing, but that's typical of Beta's who are losing Becky/Megan/Kelly/Jennifer/Amber/Amanda to Tyrone....

Beta's gonna Beta

:crackup:

 

[Weaver]

Your ignorance and hatred is showing, but that's typical of Beta's who are losing Becky/Megan/Kelly/Jennifer/Amber/Amanda to Tyrone....

Who's Tyrone? Your boyfriend? Please don't send me any more messages--I wouldn't want Tyrone to think you're having an affair with me.

 

[backbreaker]

Who's Tyrone? Your boyfriend? Please don't send me any more messages--I wouldn't want Tyrone to think you're having an affair with me.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/211/126/1270788237226.jpg?1322850623

 

[zekko]

Speaking of name-calling, I'd like to know when it became okay on here to start calling other posters faggots. I know it's fairly recently. This stuff reminds me of grade school level BS, I despise this sh!t. My respect for this forum has gone down about 500% since this sh!t started.

Aside from that, I recall from high school that the guys who were calling people queers and faggots the most were the ones who turned out to be gay themselves. Times were a little different back then though, because in those times it was mostly kept secret.

 

[FairShake]

A little bit of prejudice is healthy. It's natural, and to deny it is not being "street smart."

Seen way too many people get d!cked over when dealing with other races. Seen too many women left in the lurch when dealing with other races. Seen too many guys played when dealing with other races. Seen people put in jail innocently when dealing with other races. Seen people killed when dealing with other races. And we're talking all colors. I'm Whitey McWhiteman over here but if I was a black man or woman I wouldn't trust white folks right away.

I'm not advocating separation financially, culturally, sexually, etc. Far from it, I live in Upper Darby PA which is known as the "United Nations Neighborhood" and I am raising a halfblack daughter after a mixed marriage. I'm advocating doing a double take. Not all people who have grown up differently from you like or respect you, no matter how open-minded you are. In fact, a lot of them have built up resentment or a superiority complex towards you. That's how it's always been. It used to be the tribe on the hill hating the tribe in the valley. Now, in our global world, it's Christian hating Muslim, black hating white, liberal hating conservative, woman hating man.

To hear somebody disavowing racism on a board like this, where women are literally seen as second class citizens, is pretty rich. We all have our prejudices.

 

[backbreaker]

A little bit of prejudice is healthy. It's natural, and to deny it is not being "street smart."

Seen way too many people get d!cked over when dealing with other races. Seen too many women left in the lurch when dealing with other races. Seen too many guys played when dealing with other races. Seen people put in jail innocently when dealing with other races. Seen people killed when dealing with other races. And we're talking all colors. I'm Whitey McWhiteman over here but if I was a black man or woman I wouldn't trust white folks right away.

I'm not advocating separation financially, culturally, sexually, etc. Far from it, I live in Upper Darby PA which is known as the "United Nations Neighborhood" and I am raising a halfblack daughter after a mixed marriage. I'm advocating doing a double take. Not all people who have grown up differently from you like or respect you, no matter how open-minded you are. In fact, a lot of them have built up resentment or a superiority complex towards you. That's how it's always been. It used to be the tribe on the hill hating the tribe in the valley. Now, in our global world, it's Christian hating Muslim, black hating white, liberal hating conservative, woman hating man.

To hear somebody disavowing racism on a board like this, where women are literally seen as second class citizens, is pretty rich. We all have our prejudices.

Prejudice is a BETA male characteristic. Think about what you are saying. Think long and hard about what you are saying. "I'm afraid that I might get hurt or used or abused and i've heard / had bad experiences with with people of this color / this age / this whatever so I'm going to avoid all of them altogether as to avoid pain"


Prejudice is about attempting to avoid pain. What does this site say about avoiding pain? We through around words liek alpha and beta alot but the key cog to the difference between a man who is an "DJ" /"alpha male" and a "BETA/AFC" is that Beta males entire premise, everything they do is with the outcome of trying to avoid pain. they don't talk to women because they don't' want to get rejected. They don't osculate because they might find out she isn't interested. They are stuck in jobs they don't like and are unhappy because they are afraid to try something that might not work out.


Alpha males / DJs on the other hand, don't seek out pain but they don't avoid pain in the process of trying to find pleasure.

The entire premise of this website if you can break it down to one sentence, is LEARNING TO OVERCOME YOUR FEARS. In 10 years, actually 11 years, that's in a nutshell what I got out of this site. I learned how to approach women. I learned how to be direct and not fearing being rejected. I learned to try new things I was not comfortable doing.


So when I sit here and I see guys talk about, throwing around words like "built in prejudices" I say fvck you, go out and live. I'm not saying you should go out and approach 100 black people lol or anything but you should not avoid people, situtations for the simple fact that you "you've had bad experiences witht hem in the past"

if that were the case this forum would not exist beucase everyone here has had bad experienves with women yet we figured out a way to overcoming it.

"prejudices" is a BETA trait. BETAS are prejudiced. BETAS live in fear. BETAS live off build in installed beliefs. ALPHAS live life and judge each person, place, thing on it's own merits. When an Alpha male gets rejected by a woman of a different race he figures out what he did wrong and tries again. When a BETA male gets rejected by a woman of a different race he becomes an Indian Race Troll lol. If I have a bad experience with someone, I look at my part in it and add taht to my screening process for next time. It's always something I did or could have done better. And I don't make the mistake again. I don't cast blame on others for my mistakes.


as long as you have, harbor self limiting, pre concived notions about people, yourself, places, goals, whatever, you will never, ever, be the man that you can be


Now excuse me while I go take my gorgeous white wife out to dinner and a movie in her fvck me pumps

 

[disgustipated]

Prejudice ain't about avoiding pain bro. It's to prejudge a situation based off, hopefully, a prior similar situation and make an informed decision for a better outcome.

Give u a rl example. I grew up in Toledo. Inner city. 2 race riots to my knowledge. I was jumped by a gang of black dudes in my teens...big deal...it happens. I looked back on that and saw the behavioral precursors and was able to put that to use a few years layers. Aas about to happen again, I prejudged their actions...was able to outrun them before they got the jump on me. One of them was stupid enough to keep.chasing me...bad idea, long distance was my events. Got him seperated from his pack, and tired....whipped him. I prejudged, I got a better outcome.

That's one example. It's like you start with an idea...like you wanna somehow FIRST make.this into beta behavior then you backwards engineer the dicussion by filling in details. Prejudging can be something as simple as being aware of your surroundings.

I know some lefties will have me strung up.as a racist if I.were to.advocate changing street sides , say if a group of black dudes was walking my way and talking to one another and looking back at me....if they cross over to your side again its a sign u bout to get merked. Just run. That's considered racist I'm sure. Whatever, that's prejudice and I am that. I'm also alive.

And Solomon on here trying to parking lot pimp. Cmon man run that game somewhere else. Your meeting up with white dudes from this forum don't even pass the smell test bro. Why are trying to run the resident tough black man on a mature man internet forum game? Who are you trying to impress.

 

[Married Buried]

I've honestly got to question the sexuality of a man that would want a Western Woman to being with. Black, White, whatever. You date western women, in my book, you're a step away from gay.

Because they have no choice. Most guys here maybe live in a place with no foreign women. Nobody wants to fly around the world. It's a pain in the ass. Also, AFCs turn off foreign women as much as western women. You still have to have game.

 

[Married Buried]

Speaking of name-calling, I'd like to know when it became okay on here to start calling other posters faggots.

Freedom of speech. I think people should be able to say WHATEVER they want as long as it doesn't break the law. My respect for the site goes up if that's the case.

 

[disgustipated]

Let me also qualify my remarks. There is a difference, so ill partially agree with a previous poster. It's about risky behavior and what qualifies as such.

I don't automatically disqualify a girl if she's been with just any black dude. It's relative. If she's been ****ing ray ray, dequan and dem then yeah I'm thinking twice about even sticking my tip in.....even u black dudes will be second guessing this ho....u lie if u say u wouldn't....she's 100 percent out of the running for a LTR, duh.

Same girl,.diff scenario. She's bucked it with Tyrone, post college. Tyrone is burbin it, is in her social circle...doesn't present himself.as a thug....blah blah blah. He's assimilated into white culture. I don't judge her so harshly.

The.difference? Risk assesment and consequences. The first, the girl is risking a lot more. Socially, physically, monetay wise u name it. She's taken ALL those risks just for some ****. That ain't to be trusted. It ain't about him being black, its the risk associated with it. I don't make it this way, it just is.

The other guy, the risk is mitigated. But if.the same girl demonstrates the same behavior repeatedly then the risk thing becomes additive. It's really a case by case basis, for me. It's my preference to have a girl that hasn't demonstrated a history of risky behavior in spite of possible consequences.

 

[backbreaker]

I don't automatically disqualify a girl if she's been with just any black dude. It's relative. If she's been ****ing ray ray, dequan and dem then yeah I'm thinking twice about even sticking my tip in.....even u black dudes will be second guessing this ho....u lie if u say u wouldn't....she's 100 percent out of the running for a LTR, duh.

I agree with this 1000000000000% percent.

 

[zekko]

Freedom of speech. I think people should be able to say WHATEVER they want as long as it doesn't break the law. My respect for the site goes up if that's the case.

I'm not saying it should be censored. I'm saying that I find it disgusting that the community has become such that this is tolerated, and become commonplace.

 

[cordoncordon]

^^^^^


Completely agree. This is why I take guys like Solomon and Jaylan to task for the defensiveness on the hood blacks.


Instead of getting mad at whites for pointing it out, recognize the reality of the statistics and the situation and help resolve it. It will work out best for ALL races if we can stop fighting the facts and start addressing them.

I totally 100% agree. And I think (.) (.) has made some good points as well, even though I can see why some people could get offended by what he wrote. But that is the way he is. He tells it like it is and I respect that.

Let me start off saying I think both BB and Solomon are really good guys. I like both and imo, as much as I can tell from this forum, they both seem hardworking, respectful, good men for the most part.

But.....stats don't lie. I remember going through all of this with the Trayvon Martin case. As many good black people as there are, and there are MANY, the facts are that as a whole, they commit way more crimes than any other race-including murders against other races and their own race, use up way more money in social welfare money than any other race, and generally do less good for society than any other race. Now part of this no doubt has to do with the hardships that the black race went through for many hundreds of years. But we are in the year 2013. It is time to stop using the race card as a reason to kill, deal drugs, use drugs, or use the govt welfare system to suck it dry.

This guy actually puts it much better than I ever could.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2sL2f0PoqME

 

[Atom Smasher]

I agree with this 1000000000000% percent.

That's a lot of percent.

A lot of percent.

I don't think I've ever seen so much percent.

 

[backbreaker]

I totally 100% agree. And I think (.) (.) has made some good points as well, even though I can see why some people could get offended by what he wrote. But that is the way he is. He tells it like it is and I respect that.

Let me start off saying I think both BB and Solomon are really good guys. I like both and imo, as much as I can tell from this forum, they both seem hardworking, respectful, good men for the most part.

But.....stats don't lie. I remember going through all of this with the Trayvon Martin case. As many good black people as there are, and there are MANY, the facts are that as a whole, they commit way more crimes than any other race-including murders against other races and their own race, use up way more money in social welfare money than any other race, and generally do less good for society than any other race. Now part of this no doubt has to do with the hardships that the black race went through for many hundreds of years. But we are in the year 2013. It is time to stop using the race card as a reason to kill, deal drugs, use drugs, or use the govt welfare system to suck it dry.

This guy actually puts it much better than I ever could.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2sL2f0PoqME

My point being, what the fvck does any of this have to do with screening women in real life?

I mean, in real life, you are 29 years old, you are on a date with a 27 year old girl who lives in suburbia and mentions that her last BF of a year or so happens to be black. Girl is college educdated, is decent looking, seems decent enough..


do you honestly sit here and think that this chick was out banging waka flocka lol? No you don't and you are lying if you say you do.


I'm not arguing that the stats are lying, i'm saying the stats in this thread, don't mean ****. They don't apply to dating in adult big boy world for well adjusted people for the most part.

The black guys that the girls that you guys would be interested in are not black guys you see on TV on BET. They are black guys like myself, iceburg or warrior or Solomon. It doesn't matter what the stats say, I don't have a criminal record of any kind, I own my own business and I'm not poor.


So with that established, what exactly are you telling yourself other than trying to pump your chest out for no reason? Black men in general probably have a higher crime rate, higher unemployment rates, but the girls that you are interested in aren't dating those black guys anyway so what is the point?


anyway you cut it, it's BETA game. there is no way around it.

Men judge other men and women on their own individual actions and circumstances.


I got to be honest, to some extent it does piss me off. Because I'm probably "whiter" then most people in this forum. I went to an all white school, I grew up in an all white neighborhood for the most part. My best friend, Taylor growing up was a white kid. Dated white girls, black girls in school didn't matter. This is probably why I tend to date outside my race more, I'm honestly more comfortable around white people than black people, because that's what I've been around, outside of sports, my entire life. I even used drugs around white people.


I honestly, have never experienced any real racism of any kind, and this is living in Arkansas, until I got grown and started pulling tail. Then the same white guys that you had AP Lit with 10 years later are throwing black crime stats in your face trying to shame you because your pigment is darker than theirs. When they were dating the HB9 homecoming queen and I was jacking off lol all was good with the world. Now I have a bad ass wife and or girls they like are into me and now I'm a thug lol.


I mean, i'm happily married, I'm kinda glad this isn't some **** I have to deal with anymore but still, it's beyond frustrating to see.

 

[cordoncordon]

My point being, what the fvck does any of this have to do with screening women in real life?

I mean, in real life, you are 29 years old, you are on a date with a 27 year old girl who lives in suburbia and mentions that her last BF of a year or so happens to be black. Girl is college educdated, is decent looking, seems decent enough..


do you honestly sit here and think that this chick was out banging waka flocka lol? No you don't and you are lying if you say you do.


I'm not arguing that the stats are lying, i'm saying the stats in this thread, don't mean ****. They don't apply to dating in adult big boy world for well adjusted people for the most part.

The black guys that the girls that you guys would be interested in are not black guys you see on TV on BET. They are black guys like myself, iceburg or warrior or Solomon. It doesn't matter what the stats say, I don't have a criminal record of any kind, I own my own business and I'm not poor.


So with that established, what exactly are you telling yourself other than trying to pump your chest out for no reason? Black men in general probably have a higher crime rate, higher unemployment rates, but the girls that you are interested in aren't dating those black guys anyway so what is the point?


anyway you cut it, it's BETA game. there is no way around it.

Men judge other men and women on their own individual actions and circumstances.

I guess I am not really getting your point then BB. Cliff note it. Are there some women interested in bad boy black guys? Yes. Are there some interested in black guys like yourself? Yes. I think that much is obvious.

BTW, don't know if you watch the Breeders Crown but great races by Foiled again and Captain Treacherous tonight. What monsters. Shelliscape was a huge overlay as well.

 

[backbreaker]

I guess I am not really getting your point then BB. Cliff note it. Are there some women interested in bad boy black guys? Yes. Are there some interested in black guys like yourself? Yes. I think that much is obvious.

BTW, don't know if you watch the Breeders Crown but great races by Foiled again and Captain Treacherous tonight. What monsters. Shelliscape was a huge overlay as well.

it's very simple

My point being, in the OP that a guy who is avg looking at best and pins his hopes on looks not mattering and game trumping all is NO different than the guy who is no different in any way, shape or form from an avg guy from a different race who pins his hopes on his race making him superior to others.

I mean, I can be realistic. I can look at the stat sheet. I can see that on avg, if you are a white male in america you have a good chance being better off in the world than the avg black male in america.

however, that doesn't make YOU better than ME. Nor does that make the BETA male better than the individual black guy he's trying to shame who he doesn't know by throwing the BETA race card out.

lol, on college football Saturday this is a perfect analogy. The SEC. White men are the SEC of college football. They won the last 7 national championships. But anyone who watches college football seriously knows that for all intents and purposes, the SEC has rode the coat tails of Alabama for the last 4 years. The SEC is really Alabama + 13 pretty decent teams.

The analogy is me saying that my football school is better than say.. Kansas STate. who is in the big 12. For no other reason than we are in the SEC. and the SEC is king. And we ****ing blow this year lol. It's the only thing I can hang my hat on. Being in the SEC. But in reality, there is nothing that makes us any better than kansas state. In fact, and i'm scared to do this, if I looked at it hard enough i'd probably find out we are worse right now.

IN short avg BETA male white guy race shaming a chick on a date = Arkansas fans saying they are better than kansas state because we are an SEC team\

I'll post some breeders cup thoughts next week.

 

[cordoncordon]

Yes I an agree with that. I guess. But it seems pretty obvious to me. I am just not understanding why you chose to make that type of correlation. It just seems like two random statements that you are throwing together that everyone should or does know anyway. But it has made a 5 page thread, so more power to you haha.

 

[zekko]

I think the point is that there may be some average chump with not much going for him, and that guy expects some white hottie to go out with him rather than some black dude, simply because he is white. As opposed to his actual merits (if he has any). And that's beta.

There seems to be some racial anger among certain groups, or at least there is a stereotype of it. Black women complain when black men date outside their race. Asian men complain when asian women date outside their race. And yes, there are white men who complain when white women date outside their race. It's kind of like "Hey, she belongs to our group, I should have first crack at that" lol.