Question: Do you think money, fame, status, lots of hb10 would make you happier?

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Honestly the only thing I would say is that money would make things easier. I am happy in myself and long term I have what it takes to be successful. It's just a case of working at it.

I would like a new car and a holiday and if I was rich it'd make things like that easier. To be honest though if I got given a big sum of money I'd just take a vacation, buy a new car and then put the rest in an account which doubles my salary each month. Any more than that and you'd kill the hunger and you need that hunger imo

In no way do I want fame or status, that's got nothing to do with being happy, ask 90% of celebrities
 

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I have the same mindset. I think if you want a nice lamborghini then the thought of it makes your ego very excited. Once you actualy get it, the ego feels very satisfied (happy) for a while, but then you realise it kind of isnt anything special.

Also, the more you fail, the more the ego crashes and it gets hurt (misery).
 

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I know where you are going to or what you are looking for with that question but I don't think a lot of people are going to understand.

In short: money, status, looks, social life and hbs can give short time satisfactions and pleasures but the ego will never be happy or fulfilled even if you have the looks of model, the body of arnold, the money of bill gates and the fame of a really famous actor because all the ego know is more and the ego is never satisfied.

The person with 10 milions want 100 millions and so on.

The person with the hottest/funniest/most charming girl cheat on her with an ugly maid lol.

The person with fame start hiding from the camera after awhile.

There is really a psychological prison that's more fúcked up than a prison in world war but most people are so involved in the ego illusions/matrix that they can't see or don't understand how a person like bob marley did all what he did and wanting nothing in return or how a person can leave new york or paris and go live in the wild.

But on the other side for normal people money, status, looks, fame, successful dating history can make their journey in this life more easy on the material side but on the spiritual or psychological side a good looking billionaire with the most beautiful girls on his arms can feel empty and sad inside and normal people can't understand the reasons behind his misery.
 

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om1xr said:
I know where you are going to or what you are looking for with that question but I don't think a lot of people are going to understand.

In short: money, status, looks, social life and hbs can give short time satisfactions and pleasures but the ego will never be happy or fulfilled even if you have the looks of model, the body of arnold, the money of bill gates and the fame of a really famous actor because all the ego know is more and the ego is never satisfied.

The person with 10 milions want 100 millions and so on.

The person with the hottest/funniest/most charming girl cheat on her with an ugly maid lol.

The person with fame start hiding from the camera after awhile.

There is really a psychological prison that's more fúcked up than a prison in world war but most people are so involved in the ego illusions/matrix that they can't see or don't understand how a person like bob marley did all what he did and wanting nothing in return or how a person can leave new york or paris and go live in the wild.

But on the other side for normal people money, status, looks, fame, successful dating history can make their journey in this life more easy on the material side but on the spiritual or psychological side a good looking billionaire with the most beautiful girls on his arms can feel empty and sad inside and normal people can't understand the reasons behind his misery.
Holy ****. Do you have skype? I would love to chat with you for a while. You can pm me your Skype.
 

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Espi said:
I've never understood the mentality of someone who even questions whether money makes somebody happy. Not one person on this board will write a check to me because they have too much money.

Everybody wants more money. Nobody wants less.

And by the way if anybody does have more than enough money, just write a check to Espi.

I personally think that MORE is one of the best words in the English language. An aspiring DJ will want more money, more women, more of the good life. I personally think that men could aspire to be more.in all things human.
You see dear Espi,

Im propably going to get banned or something for thinking like this, since this whole forum is based on more money but who knows. More money doesnt always bring more joy, happiness and a better life.

For example, lets think about Michael Jackson's life. He had to literally hide and constantly be aware of his children. He was afraid of them being kidnapped all the time. And the very reason of being kidnapped is exactly Michael's money. His children never were "free". Always living with tight security and alarmess in their mind.

Also as Omi said, if not all then most of celebrities are sick of cameras and paparazzis. They would propably kill for peace and being "free".

Much money brings 2 very big problems. There are many of them but I will give 2 examples: 1. The more money you have, the more you want. You always want more. The ego is never satisfied. 2. You are afraid of losing them. This leads to fear. And eventually into misery.
 

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The fame status babes im not worried about, the money is a killer though.

While it is possible to function without much money - be homeless or live cheaply or live in a monastery or something, some degree of financial security makes a huge difference for a person, allowing you not to have to slave away at some exploitive job for low pay.

Guarantee me an average salary and im a happy man and it isnt about needing more and more, just living with dignity and some freedom.
 

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BraddH said:
Than without these things.

Do you think you would be more blissful?

And why do you think so?

Happiness is subjective, so before we talk about if something will make someone happy, we have to first ask what that person defines as happiness and also what brings them enjoyment.

For example, I doubt that a gay man would find happiness in having more women lol.

To me, happiness is more of a state of being, that is, being in a state that you prefer to be in within all of the major areas including financial, social, cultural, dating wise and health wise.

For me, that state is:

Financial: Making at least $60k a year in a great cost of living area, with no kids and no wife, managing my expenses and taxes efficiently, and investing/saving greatly. To live in a great area and drive a nice looking car. To have at least a $50,000 credit limit. To graduate undergraduate and graduate school. To be paying back all debts on time.

Social: To be relatively attractive and continue the ability of meeting decent looking women, dating women, fvcking women and doing short term relations (under 3 years on average) with them.

Health: To be healthy internally and also to have a decent looking display when I take my shirt off.

Now, ALL of these have been achieved and in place since 2011. So for me, I'm already in my happy state, and anything ABOVE these accomplishments are just extra.

This does not mean, however, that I don't have days where I'm depressed or sad about something. Even in my depression I'm happy, because my happiness is tied to the structural foundation I've put in place.

Most of my depression or sadness today comes not from truly STRUGGLING, but mainly due to my consistent reaching for more accomplishments and running into the roadblocks that come up in the process. These roadblocks are getting over the issues with my Mother, frustrations over the behaviors of Women, the fvcked up black community, some of the far left liberal shyt going on in society, and the changing economy overall.

But make no mistake about it, even in my depression/sadness....I'm still happy. Because my Financial, Social and Health foundations are in tact for the foreseeable future.
 

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jurry said:
The fame status babes im not worried about, the money is a killer though.

While it is possible to function without much money - be homeless or live cheaply or live in a monastery or something, some degree of financial security makes a huge difference for a person, allowing you not to have to slave away at some exploitive job for low pay.

Guarantee me an average salary and im a happy man and it isnt about needing more and more, just living with dignity and some freedom.
I believe that in life, you have to constantly do something. The mind wants to constantly do something. And it is okay, it is normal.

When someone understands that everything that happens in life has as much bad as good things. The theory of ying and yang is a very good example for this. Buddha always preached balance. When your understanding gets to this point, it means enlightenment. Or Nirvana has been reached.

For example, money brings as much suffering as the opposite of it (lets say it would be joy or happiness). It is hard to believe this, but this is my experience and I am saying this based on only my experience.

At this point, I am bliss at anything life gives me. If I am homeless, i am bliss. If I am a millioner, I am bliss because I know that any moment any mafia can kidnap me and I accept the fate of it. Many many poeple will be jealous of me and eventually start to hate me, this leads to trying to get me down as much as possible and even possibly killing me. But at the same time, I know with money I can do many cool and exciting stuff that I cannot without money. I never fight against what life gives me because I understand it. I understand the concept of balance that we live in called life.

All the misery comes from trying to fight what you have been given: trying to get this and get that. Surely it brings moments of content and happiness. But all the failures also brings miseries. And the misery is deep, very deep. As deep as a orbiter getting his heart broken. And my experience is that this orbiter gets as much happiness in his life, as much joy when getting attention from his dream girl as misery when she doesn't. Buddha threw his kingdom away to live under a Bodhi tree, just a simple tree. That's all he got. And his life is said to be one of the richest in human history, spiritually. He was a prince, supposed to become a king of a rich kingdom.

So my point was, anything is fine for me. I no longer long for more and more money. Not even dignity and freedom. I dont care! I believe this is when my ultimate freedom comes. When I dont care whether others give me freedom or not! I dont even know why I am sharing all this. Maybe I want to see if there is anyone like me.



Tenacity said:
Happiness is subjective, so before we talk about if something will make someone happy, we have to first ask what that person defines as happiness and also what brings them enjoyment.

For example, I doubt that a gay man would find happiness in having more women lol.

To me, happiness is more of a state of being, that is, being in a state that you prefer to be in within all of the major areas including financial, social, cultural, dating wise and health wise.

For me, that state is:

Financial: Making at least $60k a year in a great cost of living area, with no kids and no wife, managing my expenses and taxes efficiently, and investing/saving greatly. To live in a great area and drive a nice looking car.

Social: To be relatively attractive and continue the ability of meeting women, dating women, fvcking women and doing short term relations (under 3 years on average) with them.

Health: To be healthy internally and also to have a decent looking display when I take my shirt off.

Now, ALL of these have been achieved and in place since 2011. So for me, I'm already in my happy state, and anything ABOVE these states is just extra for me.

This does not mean, however, that I don't have days where I'm depressed or sad about something. Even in my depression I'm happy, because my happiness is tied to the structural foundation I've put in place.

Most of my depression or sadness today comes not from truly STRUGGLING, but mainly due to my consistent reaching for more accomplishments and running into the frequent roadblocks that come up in the process.
Since you are happy, ever since 2011. Dont you feel boredom or a need to get more and more? Its been 4 years since you have archieved your goals. You should be happy, and this is what you stated. But for 4 years what have you been doing? Have you not been trying to get "more" and "better" in anything? This is weird because there are not many people like this.
 

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Money money money all day long....why because I would be on the beach rotating between Thailand and Central America abd travelling the world living like a king for the rest of my life. People who say money can't make you happy have obviously never been poor having to scrape by and gave no incentive to travel which requires lots of....money.
 

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Im with the lads who say money is important. I honestly beleive if i was rich i would in fact be VERY happy. Think of the places you could travel and how you could sort family n close friends out.
 
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om1xr said:
I know where you are going to or what you are looking for with that question but I don't think a lot of people are going to understand.

In short: money, status, looks, social life and hbs can give short time satisfactions and pleasures but the ego will never be happy or fulfilled even if you have the looks of model, the body of arnold, the money of bill gates and the fame of a really famous actor because all the ego know is more and the ego is never satisfied.

The person with 10 milions want 100 millions and so on.

The person with the hottest/funniest/most charming girl cheat on her with an ugly maid lol.

The person with fame start hiding from the camera after awhile.

There is really a psychological prison that's more fúcked up than a prison in world war but most people are so involved in the ego illusions/matrix that they can't see or don't understand how a person like bob marley did all what he did and wanting nothing in return or how a person can leave new york or paris and go live in the wild.

But on the other side for normal people money, status, looks, fame, successful dating history can make their journey in this life more easy on the material side but on the spiritual or psychological side a good looking billionaire with the most beautiful girls on his arms can feel empty and sad inside and normal people can't understand the reasons behind his misery.
You are definitely on to something here..
 

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I feel like I am happy as is and I'm sure I could be happy staying exactly where I am in my life.

However I defiantly am not satisfied with where I am I don't know if I would be any happier with more money, women, fame etc however I feel like I would feel more fulfilled if I had more of these things. If you place happiness on things like money you will never be happy. However I see no reason why I should every be satisfied with what I have with life. Everyone should always be wanting more
 

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JoesphBrown said:
I feel like I am happy as is and I'm sure I could be happy staying exactly where I am in my life.

However I defiantly am not satisfied with where I am I don't know if I would be any happier with more money, women, fame etc however I feel like I would feel more fulfilled if I had more of these things. If you place happiness on things like money you will never be happy. However I see no reason why I should every be satisfied with what I have with life. Everyone should always be wanting more
I wonder if anyone else feels that Joseph is contradicting himself too much here.
I dont get it, you say that you are happy with where you are now and then you say that there is no reason to be happy as you are.
 

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A lot of this forum is about self improvement. If you set certain standards and goals for yourself, and then fail to meet them, then I do think that can cause some unhappiness in your life. That's what they call taking responsibility for yourself. You take responsibility for your failings and realize that they are your fault. And yes, that can make you unhappy.

Similarly, if you set these goals and achieve them, there is a certain amount of satisfaction and happiness that results. So if you set certain financial goals for yourself and meet them, for example, yeah the money can make you happy.
 

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zekko said:
A lot of this forum is about self improvement. If you set certain standards and goals for yourself, and then fail to meet them, then I do think that can cause some unhappiness in your life. That's what they call taking responsibility for yourself. You take responsibility for your failings and realize that they are your fault. And yes, that can make you unhappy.

Similarly, if you set these goals and achieve them, there is a certain amount of satisfaction and happiness that results. So if you set certain financial goals for yourself and meet them, for example, yeah the money can make you happy.
I know right? And the bigger goals and the more you invest in them, the more the quantity and quality of the suffering and joy is!
 

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I'll take the money, it can technically buy you everything you need/desire.

Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy freedom, and freedom will lead to happiness.
 

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old married dude said:
I'll take the money, it can technically buy you everything you need/desire.

Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy freedom, and freedom will lead to happiness.
I have all the freedom I have right now. And I believe every celebrities do. They always tend to end up in drugs tough. I wonder.
 
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