Quantum leap between 6s and 7s?

[thegator39]

What really matters in the end is what the girl thinks she ranks on the 10 scale and what she thinks she deserves. I dated what most would consider a 7/8/9 but she also acted like a 5 or a 6. I've also met butterfaces that act like they're 10s just because they have a tan and blonde hair.

The 1-10 scale is pretty much irrelevant other than how the girl views yourself. If she thinks she's "hot" or "sexy" or even that "I can do better than the average guy" then that's the real problem, and that's probably what you're running into.

 

[Zarky]

What really matters in the end is what the girl thinks she ranks on the 10 scale and what she thinks she deserves.

That's true, but only to a certain extent, mainly in cloistered communities. Where I am, in a big city, most women learn very quickly what their "rating" is. This is because if a 6 thinks she's a 10, she will act like a 10 and soon realize that she alienates all dudes by doing so.

If she's a chick who hangs out with computer geeks for some reason or who trolls the internet or other areas with extremely high male-female ratios, then she will think of herself higher because, in those cloistered environments, she will actually be higher.

But again, this is not a topic for this thread.

I'm looking forward to posts from guys who have seen a large gap between their success with one attractiveness level and another.

If you want to discuss something else, you can start a new topic.

 

[Colossus]

That's true, but only to a certain extent, mainly in cloistered communities. Where I am, in a big city, most women learn very quickly what their "rating" is. This is because if a 6 thinks she's a 10, she will act like a 10 and soon realize that she alienates all dudes by doing so.

Very true. Women intrinsically know where they stand given sufficient population.

If I could articulate the difference I've seen it's that the girl's expectations are different as you go up the scale. Hot women know they are hot. Therefore they know what they can garner from a male. It's easy to get away with just calling up one of your 6's and asking them to come over, because that's what they expect they can obtain. They dont expect to be wined and dined and given a steady flow of attention; chances are they were never conditioned this way. I can call up a 6 to just come over anytime, but with a 7 a bit more effort needs to made (i.e. going someplace first). Same with 8's and so on.

With the upper levels, they have become accustomed to flattery, gifts, and male affection their whole lives. It probably started with their fathers and got reinforced by every fawning guy. If you know you CAN get something, why would you settle for less?

Not to belabor the point but it really is all relative. The higher your value, the higher you can obtain. If you are having trouble with 7's then there is a rate-limiting factor somewhere---your looks, earnings, social status, et al.

 

[bigjohnson]

Very true. Women intrinsically know where they stand given sufficient population.

If I could articulate the difference I've seen it's that the girl's expectations are different as you go up the scale. Hot women know they are hot. Therefore they know what they can garner from a male.

Pretty much, however she has no idea if she's a 7 in a sea of 5s or what. I've lived in quite a few places and where I am now, the "ugly" chicks would have been hot in some other areas. The hot chicks act the same both places, it's all relative to the competition, not some imaginary absolute grading number. Of course where I live now is one of the highest income areas in the USA, so I'm pretty sure I know what is causing the influx of hotness.

Also, there's never any real consensus on what any particular girls 'number' is, but if one wants to insist on rating I'd say the best I ever pulled was a 21. That would have been three 7s at once, but who's counting.

In the end, a guy is graded by what he is presenting to her vs. what her experience has informed her she can have. The results will be doled out accordingly.

 

[Jitterbug]

Let's just agree that the ratings (6,7 etc.) are relative to the local environment or even social circle. That's relevant enough for this discussion without arguing what's hot for an individual guy and what's not.

 

[HeMan]

all girls are insecure no matter how hot they are

maybe u treat them differently to how u treat the 6's (in your eyes) and loose your charm, etc

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Zarky,
In general I like and agree with your threads,but I strongly disagree with you on this one,although I am sure your self observation is correct.....But Zarky its all in your head.....On the Dancing scene I have seen Women strangers turn up who were 9's maybe better.in general Men avoid them and the better Dancers who do engage with them are usually well catered for anyway.....But Oh the cries of anguish when she settles on a some dull fellow....happens all the time.

 

[Jitterbug]

Let's be clear on one thing - I think Zarky would know what I mean here.

Landing a specific 7, 8 or even 9 in a relationship is very different to having a whole bunch of them as plates. We all know some ordinary fella who somehow lands a hottie - either short term or for marriage (this is what Scaramouche's post refers to), but this is not what the thread is about. I have never seen an average dull fella capable of stringing hotties along.

 

[djzulu]

Here is my experience:

Recently I have been back in the game and am noticing the same results that you mentioned in the original post.

HB 6's are falling for me (some are way younger than me too).

On the other hand I am noticing that HB 7 -8 are 'shopping around'. They are trying to learn more about me before jumping into bed / dates etc and they are definitely harder to keep around.

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Zarky and my Antipodean mate Jitterbug,
Skeptical as you doubting Jews are,many incredibly lovely girls just give up,they will settle for a boring little tvit...I look around tonight and two HB's have settled for themselves,that's right a Girl I had my eye on,an 8 in any ones book,is dancing and having her knees fondled by another HB 7.5....Oh ye of little faith...Get in have your chop it's later than you think.

 

[Mike32ct]

I agree with the OP. 7s are much harder to get than 6s. (The scale isn't linear. It's like logarithmic or something.) Also, girls who are 7s generally do not want guys who are 7s even though they are equally matched. They want 8+. I agree with the consensus that the 7s have hooked up with hotter guys and use those guys as their targets to aim for relationship-wise.

At a club, I saw a girl that was a borderline 8 walk right up to a high status, drop dead hunk (10) guy. After a three minute chat, they left together. I'm sure a 7 girl could do something similar with an 8 or 9 guy.

I'm a 6 at my worst and probably a 7 dressed well with my hair (what's left of it) styled properly. I typically cannot pull beyond 5s or 6s. When I was younger, I was a borderline 8 at my peak. 7s were accessible then.

So I don't believe in this theory "Like attracts like, i.e. 7s get 7s." I think you need to EXCEED their rating somewhat. You need a rating difference or "gradient" (for the engineer types ) so to speak for the attraction to flow.

 

[Nutz]

Something else to keep in mind is that this is largely night game relevant when women's egos are overinflated. You catch these hotties out during the day and it's a whole other story.

 

[TheAsianLoverReturns]

Australia is the fattest country in the world. The U.S. is second I believe...

The population of fatties are growing at an exponential rate. Because they have the power of the state behind them, they had no incentive to look attractive for men. If you notice in latin america, eastern europe, and some parts of asia, women are not heifers. EVEN THE UGLY ONES LOOK HOT! They have to look good or they're going to climbing in the dumpsters for a meal.

So what does that mean for us? 7s are much harder to get.

I f*cked a lot of 6s. A handful of 7s. I dated some 8s and kissed them, but no p*ssy.

Looks wise I'm a 6. I'm very good at selling my social status/money, so that's how I get women above my looks level.

 

[thegator39]

AsianLover....I saw your video and no homo, you're at least a 7 and have a cool haircut.

It’s funny, two of the most attractive men that I graduated with (one was voted best looking in the school yearbook) both still look good, in shape…one is married to an UG3/4…short and chubby…and the other is married to a butterface/borderline cute girl 5/6ish.