Proof that women past 50 play AW games on apps!

[nismo-4]

All rise! You may be seated. Drink some soda or juice.

I was talking to a 55 Y.O on Hinge. Things went good until it was time to come off site. I had to handle her in a way she wasn't used to due to playing immature 304 games. But some say I should've given her my number. Simp move to me because of the 1/256 chance she'd actually call. If I was Drake, Steph Curry, Elon Musk, or Michael B Jordan, this might have worked. And I rarely if ever compliment women.

But how would you all have handled this? Message exchange included...I'm in purple. The last message she sent was "BOY...BYE! I only date men. Look in the mirror and you will see why am still single." Her words, not mine. I unmatched her some time later.

Fellas you have the floor. Screenshots below for reference, in order.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Her vague response to your schedule question and refusal to share her number clearly signal disinterest. The situation escalated into an argument when you called her a "red flag," turning it into a debate about who’s worse.

Arguing is anti-seductive—it creates tension and shuts down meaningful conversation. There’s a time and place to call someone out, especially if your goal is to stir anxiety or discontent and position yourself as the one who fills their inner emptiness. (You could argue that what you claim to offer isn’t what she needs, or that someone else is already providing it.) But in this case, it only halted the relationship.

A better approach would have been using humor or irony to disarm her. Humor keeps things light, maintains the conversation, and makes people more open. For example, I would have texted: "I’ll be in Dallas on 99/99/9999—hope you won’t leave me standing up like a Christmas tree in the middle of January ."

As with all things with women, though, it all depends to her desire/attraction for you.

 

[nismo-4]

Her vague response to your schedule question and refusal to share her number clearly signal disinterest. The situation escalated into an argument when you called her a "red flag," turning it into a debate about who’s worse.

Arguing is anti-seductive—it creates tension and shuts down meaningful conversation. There’s a time and place to call someone out, especially if your goal is to stir anxiety or discontent and position yourself as the one who fills their inner emptiness. (You could argue that what you claim to offer isn’t what she needs, or that someone else is already providing it.) But in this case, it only halted the relationship.

A better approach would have been using humor or irony to disarm her. Humor keeps things light, maintains the conversation, and makes people more open. For example, I would have texted: "I’ll be in Dallas on 99/99/9999—hope you won’t leave me standing up like a Christmas tree in the middle of January ."

As with all things with women, though, it all depends to her desire/attraction for you.

Women's emotions are more volatile than crypto. Except crypto can make you money. Most women you date can't or won't add that kind of value. Hell a BMW E38 will always be more reliable than women you're dating. Not only do the repairs actually cost less, but there's also straightforward instructions and tutorials that guide you right. When a woman breaks down, it's a headache. More than changing the water pump on a BMW.

I personally hate Hinge. I'm about to delete that app. I just got unmatched because (wait for it) I challenged her and told her give me her number.

I won't allow myself to get friendzoned, nor will I settle for it.

Women aren't used to being put in their place. They're used to guys chasing and kissing their ass and I refused. A swift foot up that ass delivered by a man helps. Enter the judge. Say I refused to be beta if you will. Didn't get a date but I put a hole in her ego.

Humor IMO is a quick way to get friendzoned. It would be different if I were Pat Mahomes or a multimillionaire. Yeah I could have unmatched immediately when she dodged the question of coming offline, but I didn't GAF. I speak in a matter-of-fact way with women. Being direct. This way I can weed out time wasters and attention wh0res. She weeded herself out for me. Another bad apple thrown away, but no good apples gained. But I was willing to walk away and I did.

 

[BPH]

Why is this pinned?

 

[nismo-4]

Why is this pinned?

Because I can. I just thought it would be cool to get other guys viewpoint. Do you have one?

 

[Clockwerk50]

Women's emotions are more volatile than crypto. Except crypto can make you money. Most women you date can't or won't add that kind of value. Hell a BMW E38 will always be more reliable than women you're dating. Not only do the repairs actually cost less, but there's also straightforward instructions and tutorials that guide you right. When a woman breaks down, it's a headache. More than changing the water pump on a BMW.

I personally hate Hinge. I'm about to delete that app. I just got unmatched because (wait for it) I challenged her and told her give me her number.

I won't allow myself to get friendzoned, nor will I settle for it.

Women aren't used to being put in their place. They're used to guys chasing and kissing their ass and I refused. A swift foot up that ass delivered by a man helps. Enter the judge. Say I refused to be beta if you will. Didn't get a date but I put a hole in her ego.

Humor IMO is a quick way to get friendzoned. It would be different if I were Pat Mahomes or a multimillionaire. Yeah I could have unmatched immediately when she dodged the question of coming offline, but I didn't GAF. I speak in a matter-of-fact way with women. Being direct. This way I can weed out time wasters and attention wh0res. She weeded herself out for me. Another bad apple thrown away, but no good apples gained. But I was willing to walk away and I did.

Ultimately, no matter what game you play—whether it's your personality, looks, or style—the key to success in the dating game is to make the person you're flirting with feel like they're the ones making the first approach. Once you achieve that, you've won. This can be done in different ways, but the main common denominator here is to give them space. One method is to let them notice you at different places or in social media without immediately approaching. Another method is to befriend them while maintaining an appropriate distance, gradually moving closer as the interaction develops. And then there's the direct approach that the most vocal subgroup in this forum says it has the highest percentage of working - showing interest, taking a step back, and letting them be lured into your frame.

Regardless, in this interaction, it would have been difficult to get her number, as she may not have been that into you. Either way, thanks for sharing the text message field report for analysis.

 

[BPH]

Because I can. I just thought it would be cool to get other guys viewpoint. Do you have one?

Sure.

You overreacted and blew up a conversation rather than restating the question. Clearly her response of "you funny" was in reference to your comment about her stalking you. You opted to take that as disrespect and flew off on a tirade about why she's single.

It's not complicated.

Additionally, this is a 55-year-old woman on a dating app. This is not a desirable woman worth this level of afterthought.

 

[SW15]

It seems like it would be a frustrating in-app, text-based message exchange.

I would understand this text exchange if the woman were a Millennial or Gen Z born in the mid-1980s or 1990s. Millennial women are notorious for this sort of silliness.

Getting this sort of aggravation from a woman who is 55 years and was a teenager in the 1980s is nonsense.

I liked @nismo-4 's last message in the exchange.

You overreacted and blew up a conversation rather than restating the question. Clearly her response of "you funny" was in reference to your comment about her stalking you. You opted to take that as disrespect and flew off on a tirade about why she's single.

This is a shortfall of text messaging. There's a lot of room for miscommunication. I agree that the "Lol you funny" was about stalking and not the number request. She could have made that more clear in her response. I don't think this miscommunication would have happened on an in-person approach.

this is a 55-year-old woman on a dating app. This is not a desirable woman worth this level of afterthought.

I agree that she isn't desirable based on her age. However, it's surprising how well older women can do on either websites or apps now. A 55 year woman can have a lot of 55-70 year old options from the tech methods. Some of the men in her age group might consider her desirable.

 

[pipeman84]

I'll leave aside the fact you're talking to a 55yrs old woman ... maybe you're into older women.

I think you came off as too aggressive and butt hurt in that text exchange. You know that on dating apps the women have the upper hand yet you acted as if the ratio of men/women on the app is 1/8 and you're the only one she matched with. I find it hard to believe you actually said: 'I'm the lover, leader and protector in that order' when in reality you're just a name and a photo to her, both of which could be fake for all she knows.

But how would you all have handled this?

In the second photo, after she said 'lol, you're funny' I would've said 'thanks' or 'funny is my middle name' then waited for her to answer the question about the number. If she didn't reply, I would've pressed one more time: 'well, do you have a phone number? I'd rather talk than text' or something similar.

 

[Gamisch]

Never argue with a woman BEFORE hitting it. One little misunderstanding is all it takes to completely kill the attraction.

Just throw your nr and move on. She WILL call you.

Because I can. I just thought it would be cool to get other guys viewpoint. Do you have one?

Dude definitely gets " most arrogant poster of the year " award.

Enters threads where he ( completely unnecessary) says he" is not gonna read all this" ( and basically shyts on other people's opinions) but simultaneously writes novels about imagery adventures with washed up women. You know those men..they want you to listen but theyll have to go when you want to say some...

Gets glazed by one member and that is enough for him to feed his narcissism with. Super annoying dude who desperately tries to compensate for living at home like a teenager at 31 by spamming the forum with " proof he is such a big player".

The new razor rambo. All fake

Dude is very annoying, his demeanor is one that would get him slapped in the streets. Real definition of a passive aggressive narcissist.

 

[Solomon]

Yikes if you getting your Jimmies rustled over 55 year old women OP it's time to take a break from the game then work on stepping it up

 

[SW15]

I'll leave aside the fact you're talking to a 55yrs old woman ... maybe you're into older women.

When I first saw this, I wondered about the poster's age since I didn't know. He arrived here in 2005. I was thinking that he was 55-57 or so. Apparently @nismo-4 arrived here early in life and is circa age 40. He is substantially younger than 55. One would think his targets would be near his own age (30 somethings) or he might try to go for 20 something nearer to peak women as well. On swipe apps, it's very difficult to get large age gaps with younger women based on women's abundance. It's most common to get matches within 3 years of your own age.

I'm more forgiving of younger men (18-24) who engage with older women. While 18-24s have the best access to young, single women, it's possible for them to struggle because they aren't always the desired older man.

When I was 22 and first got out of college and went to a new city, it was difficult for me in nightlife venues to find women younger than me. There was a limited pool of 21-22 year olds in the main nightlife area I frequented. I did go to a different nightlife area near a university to help with that but it was still a challenge.

As I got older, I started to notice that I was older than a good percentage of women at the bars. This became evident around 25-27.

Once a man starts to get older and has a good selection of women younger than himself, it is best to focus on women younger than himself.

You know that on dating apps the women have the upper hand yet you acted as if the ratio of men/women on the app is 1/8 and you're the only one she matched with.

The ratios are terrible on the major swipe apps. Tinder is 76% male and Bumble/Hinge is 65% male. In real life, this would look like a bar that is a bad sausage fest.

Women have an advantage with these ratios and this is why most mid-tier men feel invisible on the apps.

This isn't an excuse for a man to act like simp or a doormat. However, some care must be taken given the unfriendly environment most men will encounter on the apps.

I find it hard to believe you actually said: 'I'm the lover, leader and protector in that order' when in reality you're just a name and a photo to her, both of which could be fake for all she knows.

A woman isn't going to care much about that given that she's never met the man. While I liked the response @nismo-4 had there, I liked it less in that context.

In the second photo, after she said 'lol, you're funny' I would've said 'thanks' or 'funny is my middle name' then waited for her to answer the question about the number. If she didn't reply, I would've pressed one more time: 'well, do you have a phone number? I'd rather talk than text' or something similar.

Thanks and another ask for the number could have worked. Text-based communication causes problems. This was a bad misread by both parties.

It's a moot point overall because a circa 40 year old man shouldn't be texting a 55 year old woman.

Never argue with a woman BEFORE hitting it. One little misunderstanding is all it takes to completely kill the attraction.

I agree with this.

 

[nismo-4]

When I first saw this, I wondered about the poster's age since I didn't know. He arrived here in 2005. I was thinking that he was 55-57 or so. Apparently @nismo-4 arrived here early in life and is circa age 40. He is substantially younger than 55. One would think his targets would be near his own age (30 somethings) or he might try to go for 20 something nearer to peak women as well. On swipe apps, it's very difficult to get large age gaps with younger women based on women's abundance. It's most common to get matches within 3 years of your own age.

Once a man starts to get older and has a good selection of women younger than himself, it is best to focus on women younger than himself.

The ratios are terrible on the major swipe apps. Tinder is 76% male and Bumble/Hinge is 65% male. In real life, this would look like a bar that is a bad sausage fest.

Women have an advantage with these ratios and this is why most mid-tier men feel invisible on the apps.

This isn't an excuse for a man to act like simp or a doormat. However, some care must be taken given the unfriendly environment most men will encounter on the apps.



A woman isn't going to care much about that given that she's never met the man. While I liked the response @nismo-4 had there, I liked it less in that context.



Thanks and another ask for the number could have worked. Text-based communication causes problems. This was a bad misread by both parties.

It's a moot point overall because a circa 40 year old man shouldn't be texting a 55 year old woman.



I agree with this.

This is getting more traction than I expected. This is a failed interaction after all. Yes it's a L in the sense we never met and I never widened her vaginal walls, but W for moving on and didn't waste time.

I'm 38 for the record. I feel like having a Lexus isn't a flex. Could've bought a Maserati Quattroporte for a good 21k, but I would've been up about 8k in repairs.

Back on topic. If an older woman matches with me, I'd go for it. If an older chick matched with you, and you had a chance to get with her and smash, you would too. A woman's hips and boobs feel better in your hand than a Playstation controller. Let's not kid ourselves. I had a chick on Bumble do that and we smashed a week after meeting. Better feeling than playing Crash Bandicoot.

So yeah I went for it, but the miscommunication derailed everything. This is why I believe in being direct. Cut through the BS. Don't let women play games with you. I advise cutting off a woman (unmatching) before she does. I find that if a woman evades a date or your request to come offline i.e. let's talk more on here, I'm not comfortable yet, she's disinterested. Stranger danger disappears when Chad or Tyrone was messaging her. She wouldn't say these objections her celeb crush. Too much bad experience to think the opposite.

Giving my number would have a 1/256 chance of working.

I wound up having to be assertive and not a simp doormat. Would've worked better if I was a multimillionaire. But women always have more options than men on dating apps, and don't like 90% of men. There's so many locked doors and dead ends.

Alas, better to have a woman hate you than be indifferent. No more Mr. Nice Guy. Being the jerk can get you laid or unmatched. Being the good guy can get you friendzoned or worse. I chose the former and many others would too.

 

[Gamisch]

This is getting more traction than I expected. This is a failed interaction after all. Yes it's a L in the sense we never met and I never widened her vaginal walls, but W for moving on and didn't waste time.

I'm 38 for the record. I feel like having a Lexus isn't a flex. Could've bought a Maserati Quattroporte for a good 21k, but I would've been up about 8k in repairs.

Back on topic. If an older woman matches with me, I'd go for it. If an older chick matched with you, and you had a chance to get with her and smash, you would too. A woman's hips and boobs feel better in your hand than a Playstation controller. Let's not kid ourselves. I had a chick on Bumble do that and we smashed a week after meeting. Better feeling than playing Crash Bandicoot.

So yeah I went for it, but the miscommunication derailed everything. This is why I believe in being direct. Cut through the BS. Don't let women play games with you. I advise cutting off a woman (unmatching) before she does. I find that if a woman evades a date or your request to come offline i.e. let's talk more on here, I'm not comfortable yet, she's disinterested. Stranger danger disappears when Chad or Tyrone was messaging her. She wouldn't say these objections her celeb crush. Too much bad experience to think the opposite.

Giving my number would have a 1/256 chance of working.

I wound up having to be assertive and not a simp doormat. Would've worked better if I was a multimillionaire. But women always have more options than men on dating apps, and don't like 90% of men. There's so many locked doors and dead ends.

Alas, better to have a woman hate you than be indifferent. No more Mr. Nice Guy. Being the jerk can get you laid or unmatched. Being the good guy can get you friendzoned or worse. I chose the former and many others would too.

It should get way more traction. We all get to deal with this bs especially online, and most will be quiet about it because its a big fat L.

You say that you lose when you do and when you don't. That's because WE assume after a match and some sort of confirmation that she is "all in". Every slight pushback will then hit ten times as hard. So when we get into an argument with a woman we barley know it literally catches us with our guard down. On top of this it ALSO gives you a look into the future with this woman. As we get older the brain deteriorates and traumas piling up. THAT is why we prefer younger women over older ones, not just looks.

Now there can be many reasons why women act like this online, but the most obvious one is she got some options. Now you're being the (second third fourth) best option she reluctantly goes for, while she is 55 and should be HAPPY that potentially gets to date you.

That's why it's detrimental to date women that are below you. No words in this world will convince her she is, because the next 35 y.o horny and desperate dude is waiting around the corner. While you just fecked up your aura because hey; if 55y. Olds reject you how you gonna be able to pull let's a 30 y.o ?

Next time I'd again throw the number, wait 24 hours and keep it moving.

 

[pipeman84]

I'm 38 for the record.

The last message she sent was "BOY...BYE! I only date men. Look in the mirror and you will see why am still single." Her words, not mine.

With her being 55yrs old, the use of BOY makes even more sense. Not only metaphorically speaking due to your immature texting, but she literally could have a boy your age.

The OP is surreal ... a 38yrs old moderator on sosuave gets owned by a 55yrs old woman on a dating app, of all the places. You couldn't make this up.

 

[nismo-4]

It should get way more traction. We all get to deal with this bs especially online, and most will be quiet about it because its a big fat L.

You say that you lose when you do and when you don't. That's because WE assume after a match and some sort of confirmation that she is "all in". Every slight pushback will then hit ten times as hard. So when we get into an argument with a woman we barley know it literally catches us with our guard down. On top of this it ALSO gives you a look into the future with this woman. As we get older the brain deteriorates and traumas piling up. THAT is why we prefer younger women over older ones, not just looks.

Now there can be many reasons why women act like this online, but the most obvious one is she got some options. Now you're being the (second third fourth) best option she reluctantly goes for, while she is 55 and should be HAPPY that potentially gets to date you.

Next time I'd again throw the number, wait 24 hours and keep it moving.

When you throw your number first, how often has it worked for you? To me, you're giving up your power and letting fate take over. Fate typically screws you over. I say stay in control. One time it did work, but it wound up a dinner date, one-date wonder.

Dating for men is like a job interview, and a job interview is not aced unless you were hired.

When men measure dating results, they look at how many dates and lays they got. When women measure, they look at:
1. How many new simps boost her ego
2. How many guys they can flake on
3. How much attention they can get
4. How many new IG followers/ OF subscribers they get
5. How much money will a simp spend
6. How many bills can she get paid
7. How many free meals can she get in a month
8. How many guys will chase them
9. How many new orbiters are here
10. How many guys will just be friends with her
11. How many guys will like and compliment her pics

On and on.

Luck, timing, what the woman's looking for, what the woman has available to her, all play a part. Women's emotions are more volatile than crypto.

I don't get excited about meeting new women. Most guys after enough experience and learning Redpill female nature begin to assume the worst-case scenario or outcome i.e. she doesn't return a call, disinterested! Doesn't respond on a dating app in 24 hours, block and unmatch! She acts lukewarm, delete her number! She won't set a date or gives 1 excuse, block her number. Never heard guys (sans Chad or Tyrone) talk about the best-case scenarios, because they're rare. Men win when sex happened. Women win when attention happened. The bad outcome (flake, ghost, ignore, unmatch, block) happens more than the good. Men are unconsciously outcome dependent. Women are outcome independent naturally because they get hit on 5+ times a day.

A used BMW is easier to fix than a woman, and breaks down a lot less.

Women don't grow up, they grow old.

 

[SW15]

Women don't grow up, they grow old.

I've seen this happening with 35-40 year old Millennial women. These aging Millennials are still acting like it's 2009 and they are 21-25.

This type of Millennial woman is mainly found on swipe apps.

I'm 38 for the record. If an older woman matches with me, I'd go for it. If an older chick matched with you, and you had a chance to get with her and smash, you would too. A woman's hips and boobs feel better in your hand than a Playstation controller. Let's not kid ourselves. I had a chick on Bumble do that and we smashed a week after meeting. Better feeling than playing Crash Bandicoot.

I would not get with an attractive older woman at this point. There aren't that many attractive older women for an early 40s guy like me.

I look for women younger than myself. There are many women 40 and younger.

I do not play PlayStation games.

I feel like having a Lexus isn't a flex.

It's not much of one. Lexus cars are good cars. The car brands more likely to give a status bump are higher end than Lexus.

most will be quiet about it because its a big fat L.

It's an L. The whole situation was messed up. A 38 year old shouldn't be chasing a 55 year old. Rollo Tomassi has claimed that a 38 year old male is near peak male SMV. Why would a near peak SMV male chase a woman far beyond her peak?

A 38 year old man could interact with a 55 year old woman in order to try to date her 22-30 year old daughter. That makes sense. That's also not an interaction that would happen on Hinge.

she got some options.

She does. Women in their late 40s and 50s always seem to have options from tech based methods.

 

[BPH]

This is getting more traction than I expected.

Well yeah...it's literally pinned to the top so it's the first thing anybody sees.

Your responses sound more like somebody who is jaded by women, than somebody who enjoys them. I said this in another thread some time ago, but you don't have to "win" every interaction. This reads like you demand to be treated like a "high-value man" despite A. not being one, and B. while targeting women almost 20 years older than you who are still on dating apps.

I think a vast majority of this forum would do better with women if they enjoyed the interactions they have with them, rather than overanalyzing them.

 

[GoodMan32]

I had a similar (but not entirely the same) experience with the woman I had my last date with (the date happened, everything went well, then 4 days later everything fell apart through text)

But enough about me. This thread is about you. All I have to say is: Pretty alarming she's still playing games like a young woman at 55 (at least the woman I had my last date with has the youth excuse; she was 37)

I don't think you did anything wrong.

 

[GoodMan32]

Well yeah...it's literally pinned to the top so it's the first thing anybody sees.

Your responses sound more like somebody who is jaded by women, than somebody who enjoys them. I said this in another thread some time ago, but you don't have to "win" every interaction. This reads like you demand to be treated like a "high-value man" despite A. not being one, and B. while targeting women almost 20 years older than you who are still on dating apps.

I think a vast majority of this forum would do better with women if they enjoyed the interactions they have with them, rather than overanalyzing them.

Nothing wrong with going for a woman nearly 20 years older.