Proof that women past 50 play AW games on apps!

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Well yeah...it's literally pinned to the top so it's the first thing anybody sees.

Your responses sound more like somebody who is jaded by women, than somebody who enjoys them. I said this in another thread some time ago, but you don't have to "win" every interaction. This reads like you demand to be treated like a "high-value man" despite A. not being one, and B. while targeting women almost 20 years older than you who are still on dating apps.

I think a vast majority of this forum would do better with women if they enjoyed the interactions they have with them, rather than overanalyzing them.
That was my first reaction to it...OP approaches this as some sort of game he has to win at all costs instead of just enjoying what women have to offer and intriguing then enough so that they want to continuously come back for more...

It's just not that serious OP, lighten up a little.
 
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She’s more like a 55 year old teenager.
This is something I've noticed over time with older women. Plenty of 30+ women who are single still act like teenagers/early 20s women with the games they play. It's very irritating behavior from women 30+, who should be past that phase.
 

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What’s AW?
 

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This is something I've noticed over time with older women. Plenty of 30+ women who are single still act like teenagers/early 20s women with the games they play. It's very irritating behavior from women 30+, who should be past that phase.
Personally I've found that older women are more to the point and play less games.

If they are actually into you that is. If they aren't then that's where you run into these issues.
 

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Personally I've found that older women are more to the point and play less games.

If they are actually into you that is. If they aren't then that's where you run into these issues.
Not all 30+ women are game players like teenagers. While I have observed it and been irritated by it before, it's not universal.

I buy the idea that it is an interest level issue. A 55 year old on a swipe app hasn't developed a high enough interest level behind an electronic screen. That partially explains what happened to the OP.
 

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WTF. WHY are you talking to a 55 year old???

Before Covid I didn't see these games on OLD that much. There was a big selection of decent looking women. Hell, 70 percent of the time you could get their number after a few messages back and forth. Around the end of 2020 it all changed.
 

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WTF. WHY are you talking to a 55 year old???

Before Covid I didn't see these games on OLD that much. There was a big selection of decent looking women. Hell, 70 percent of the time you could get their number after a few messages back and forth. Around the end of 2020 it all changed.
Supply and demand. Ofcourse one particular member will jump in and claim he " loves to see a 60 y.o woman pee" but other than that most men will entertain their best option at the time.

It doesn't matter what level or age the woman is, if she ( unconsciously) senses you have no other options she will become as annoying as possible.

You can deal with an hb2 and she gives you an attitude like she is prime Jessica Alba. Especially on the apps where you are just another dude trying to get easy cheap sex
 

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WTF. WHY are you talking to a 55 year old???

Before Covid I didn't see these games on OLD that much. There was a big selection of decent looking women. Hell, 70 percent of the time you could get their number after a few messages back and forth. Around the end of 2020 it all changed.
If Halle Berry or Shakira matched with you and were available for you (likely sexually), you know you'd shoot your shot instead of playing Fortnite. Let's not kid ourselves.

I ended up with a "match". Said match failed. Post 2020 women wound up ho-flating. Women nowadays have no less than 4 inboxes. Sometimes they have NFL players in them (saw a 60 Y.O woman's POF messages after I smashed, had 100+ unread, some were way better looking than me. Also saw a 62 y.o realtor's IG DM's. She had rappers and Falcons players in there, and some simps wanting to take her out. I remember one said Hawaii, another wanted to bring her to Capital Grill. I smashed until she wanted commitment.) Women always have options and there is no wall. Even if there is, it's heavily padded. We're always competing with Chad, Tyrone, Bob, and John.

Ho-flation. That's why we got all these games. 90% of men are invisible to 90% of women.
 

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Women nowadays have no less than 4 inboxes. Sometimes they have NFL players in them (saw a 60 Y.O woman's POF messages after I smashed, had 100+ unread, some were way better looking than me. Also saw a 62 y.o realtor's IG DM's. She had rappers and Falcons players in there, and some simps wanting to take her out. I remember one said Hawaii, another wanted to bring her to Capital Grill. I smashed until she wanted commitment.) Women always have options and there is no wall. Even if there is, it's heavily padded.
In 2014, Roosh wrote an article about The Wall being softer than most men think it is. It is still applicable in 2025, if not more applicable.


It's amazing that women 60 and 62 years old have such abundance.

I am aware of multiple women in their 50s and 60s who have had very impressive abundance. None of them could have created the abundance they had on real life alone. It was all tech created abundance.

Most 35+ women know by now that they can create swipe apps and be more active on social media to create more abundance for mating purposes.

90% of men are invisible to 90% of women.
Male invisibility is an issue. More and more males are becoming invisible.

Male invisibility wasn't much of an issue prior to 2nd Wave Feminism and the Sexual Revolution of the 1960s. Men couldn't be invisible because they were more necessary for survival. Women had economic dependence on men. Since 2nd Wave Feminism (1960s-1980s era feminism), women haven't needed men as much economically.

The women near my age (early Millennials, mid to late 1980s births) grew up in the 1990s/early 2000s with the expectation that they'd be working and supporting themselves. They were also preparing to work even if they got married.

A lot of dating has shifted to tech, where sausage fests are even worse than some of the worst bars.
 

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@nismo-4 there's no point arguing with a woman and especially one you don't know that has 50 other options. You came across as too invested in the outcome and arrogant.

Goes right along with your "All Rise" the great Nismo is here. I'm important. Look at me and give me what I want. And I'm pinning this topic because I can.

Geez dude.
 

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@nismo-4 there's no point arguing with a woman and especially one you don't know that has 50 other options. You came across as too invested in the outcome and arrogant.

Goes right along with your "All Rise" the great Nismo is here. I'm important. Look at me and give me what I want. And I'm pinning this topic because I can.

Geez dude.
This is the right answer...came off looking butt-hurt she wasn't as into you as you would have liked.

So what, it happens. I've had women who are 8s that act like I am the hottest guy they ever dated and tell me how sexy and hot I am especially when naked and then others who might be 5s or 6s that are not attracted to me at all.

The point is, it doesn't matter what any particular woman is or isn't attracted to, you can't win them all.

For whatever reason I seem to be very polarizing with women where very hot women will go crazy for me at times while average women may not think I'm anything special. No idea why this happens but I guess I have certain traits that some women are really attracted to regardless of how they look while others are not.

Do I get mad or upset when some 5 isn't interested or blows me off because I've dated much hotter women?

No. What's the point of that? Each person is going to be attracted to what they are attracted to. Trying to argue with them or make them feel crappy to boost your ego doesn't help you in the long run it just starts a habit of taking things way too personal and exhibiting poor and unattractive behavior to women which will carry over into other interactions with women if you aren't careful.
 
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@nismo-4

Like I said, don't pay these guys any mind.

They don't know the difference between arrogance, and assertiveness.

You said what you said...move on, learn, and cut it even sooner the next time.
 
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@nismo-4

Like I said, don't pay these guys any mind.

They don't know the difference between arrogance, and assertiveness.

You said what you said...move on, learn, and cut it even sooner the next time.
There is nothing assertive about being butt hurt because a woman doesn't want to date you and then telling her about it.it simply makes you look weak and like you don't date many women.
 

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Can we all agree there is no reason this should be pinned and it should be promptly unpinned?

Is a mod's decision to pin something arbitrarily "because he can" good enough? The No Contact Thread is part of the fabric of this place. Rules of the forum as well. This, on the other hand, has no reason to be pinned. I hope the other mods take care of this.
 

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There is nothing assertive about being butt hurt because a woman doesn't want to date you and then telling her about it.it simply makes you look weak and like you don't date many women.
Bro, reading comprehension.

He clearly stated in the message why he was upset, and it was because she deliberately ignored his number request.

If you feel it wasn't that serious, then that's your opinion...but at least understand where the critique came from before you start passing judgement.
 

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OP and to everyone else, chances are the chick's name wasn't "Hope". The vast majority of time when you see a OLD woman with the name of "Hope" or "Faith" they are in delusion mode, fooling themselves but given you a tell by their choice in user name.
 

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Bro, reading comprehension.

He clearly stated in the message why he was upset, and it was because she deliberately ignored his number request.

If you feel it wasn't that serious, then that's your opinion...but at least understand where the critique came from before you start passing judgement.
OP’s frustration over not receiving her number is all about entitlement. He assumes she should comply because he asked, disregarding her autonomy and boundaries. Whether because she's 55 or he sees himself as the "lover" or "protector," his anger reveals a sense of entitlement to her personal information. This isn’t about miscommunication. Who gets upset and stomps their feet when they don’t get what they want?
 

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OP’s frustration over not receiving her number is all about entitlement. He assumes she should comply because he asked, disregarding her autonomy and boundaries. Whether because she's 55 or he sees himself as the "lover" or "protector," his anger reveals a sense of entitlement to her personal information. This isn’t about miscommunication. Who gets upset and stomps their feet when they don’t get what they want?
Men have to carry themselves well. Women act like they're supermodels all the time, mostly.

Men get upset when the outcome is south of dating and sex. Women get upset when their outcome is the man wanting to be north of dating and sex, yet she wanted him as a simp, platonic friend, or beta orbiter.

Better to be a jerk and get rejected than a nice guy who gets his time wasted and attention drained. Neither gets the girl, but the jerk moves on quicker. I long did. I tried with new women, but we know to women online...it's all dandy and fine till the man wants to talk offline. Then the games, disrespect, and disinterest will shine.
 

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Men have to carry themselves well. Women act like they're supermodels all the time, mostly.

Men get upset when the outcome is south of dating and sex. Women get upset when their outcome is the man wanting to be north of dating and sex, yet she wanted him as a simp, platonic friend, or beta orbiter.

Better to be a jerk and get rejected than a nice guy who gets his time wasted and attention drained. Neither gets the girl, but the jerk moves on quicker. I long did. I tried with new women, but we know to women online...it's all dandy and fine till the man wants to talk offline. Then the games, disrespect, and disinterest will shine.
I guess if you truly value respect, you might want to start by respecting her decision not to give out her number and accepting rejection gracefully. By calling her a red flag, you escalated the situation in a way that feels manipulative. It assumes that if she’s not immediately sharing her number, she’s somehow doing something wrong.

And let’s be real, you did not have the intention of getting to know the woman or build an emotional or intimate connection with her, especially since she is 17 years older. You were just not able to break her barriers.

Check the video example below. The video starts at 2:40. The dude gets rejected and, little by little, starts building a connection instead of stomping his feet because the woman didn’t initially like him.

I think that’s more respectable than insulting someone because they didn’t share their number, but if you think otherwise and you’re happy with that, that’s cool my man.

 

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