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[Mad Manic]

To be fair, whenever I read or hear about someone getting laid and showing strippers/porn stars as proof, I never am convinced, it always rings a bell of cash being paid. I know my dad's Iranian friend goes to strip clubs etc. and he sometimes takes a girl home and he's with her for a few days, he definitely pays for it. I mean if you're a genuine true PUA then go to a grocery store and take that hot blonde home and bang her. But is that possible or is it just PUA fantasy? Have we seen any vids of a PUA going into a grocery store and taking a hot girl with him? Nope.

MM

 

[demonic]

Actually I have tried a lot of crazy things with women. It is what leads me to instinctively question the supposed wisdom of Johnny Soporno.

Ok i can respect that, but people do have some success when they try crazy things and dress crazy...i mean Mystery looks kinda weird but enjoys great success

 

[Johnny Soporno]

Yeah I watched these videos about a month ago and they have helped me out a bit.

That's terrific, NAJ - I strongly encourage you to go through them again, from the beginning, now that the really challenging bits have had time to process in the back of your mind... Most people find enormously more value in rewatching it - ESPECIALLY if they take notes!

But I must warn those who haven't tried out a lot of these techniques, they are flawed to a certain extent. Especially video number 3. Without going into great detail the chicks in video 3 aren't like the kind you'd meet at a bar a club, therefore it's tough to properly execute the techniques.

The video is NOT intended as a 'pick up' instructional, NAJ - it's a holistic sociological reframing of basically EVERYTHING we're all taught to believe about male/female relationships, roles, and expectations.

The RESULT of truly learning and appreciating the stuff within it happens to be a phenomenally enhanced social life, particularly sexually - but that's a SIDE EFFECT, not the justification for learning it.

It certainly isn't meant to be a demonstration of 'how to pick up girls' particularly club girls!

Johnny Soporno
Lifestyle Guru

P.S. Thanks for speaking up about the videos in the first place!

 

[Johnny Soporno]

I have to admit I have mixed opinions on what you have to say Johnny, both good and bad.

But the fact is you're sharing your knowledge with everyone for free, and that to me deserves some respect from everyone!

Thanks, Demo - I appreciate your speaking out for me!

I don't expect anyone to agree with everything I say, (at least, not right away! ) but I definitely respect those people who are interested enough in their own happiness and enlightenment that they will risk a few hours on watching through the vids!

...thank you, Johnny, for the the links to the videos... appreciate it.... and keep up the great work!

You are absolutely welcome, man - I happily share this stuff, because knowing I'm helping worthwhile people makes me feel great about myself!

In fact, simply hearing back from you (and others like you!) makes it all worthwhile for me... That, and chuckling at the tragic losers who feel compelled to make up stories to try to discredit me, rather than just watching the videos without prejudice!

Oh, well - Other people's 'drama' is MY COMEDY!

Johnny Soporno
Lifestyle Guru

 

[Johnny Soporno]

Last weekend I was out at a club.

That's the only sentence in your entire post which I consider to have ANY chance of being honest and accurate. But to be completely sincere, I don't even believe that you go to clubs at all. I have a hard to believing you ever leave your computer console, frankly.

I don't know what compels a weak, despondent, negative person like you to attempt to sabotage the powerful, effective, positive people who offer help and insights freely... but whatever it is, it's tragic, self-defeating, and something you really need to work on.

Sincerely,

Johnny

 

[Johnny Soporno]

So we're supposed to applaud someone for showing up at a club wearing devil horns, even if it doesn't work?

I don't know where you got that from, MB, since I am sure no one suggested anything of the sort?

All anyone credible has ever suggested in this thread was to watch the videos (available for free from www.SeductiveReasoning.com, and mirrored in three countries for easiest downloading) and make up your own mind what you take away from them.

Simple, hmmm?

Johnny Soporno
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[demonic]

Hey johnny ignore the people who are idiots and disrespectful...some of us do appreciate the things you have to say.

People who have to run other people down are usually the people with very low self esteem who are'nt worth **** anyway.

 

[MotownMack]

So we're supposed to applaud someone for showing up at a club wearing devil horns, even if it doesn't work?

Actually, yeah. If you consider that 99% of the problem for most guys is that they lack confidence, or don't have the balls to try anything original or risky, I would say that even if it didn't work the guy, he is leaps and bounds above the tools-like some of my buddies-who go to bars weekend after weekend, and never talk to a single girl.

This problem is FAR more prevalent than they guy who may look like a chump for trying something different, even if it didn't work.

I've been the "safe" guy for most of my life, and know that the real courage comes from being able to shift your paradigm and trying something uncomfortable-when it becomes clear that you've been doing isn't getting the results you seek.

 

[Johnny Soporno]

Lol, gotta love the haters.

Yep, those self-defeatists gave me the opportunity to painstakingly correct them, here in public forum - and for that I am appreciative!

Now that Potato has been debunked, and outed as a lesbian woman, Mad Manic has been banned, and Look Young left to prove himself a fool, I think I'm fresh out of 'haters!'

Oh, well

Yeah Johnny's work is a little flawed, but as general mindset, it really opens your mind to what's possible.

Honestly, Mr.E, if you go back and re-watch all six seminar segments again, NOW, with the last years' worth of life-experience behind you, I wager you'd find ten-times the value you did on your first viewing. Also, you might decide it's not flawed after all

Johnny Soporno
Worthy Playboy

http://www.worthyplayboys.com/philosophy-seductive-reasoning.html

 

[Johnny Soporno]

The "virtue of selfishness", old Ayn Rand book you may have read. Selfishness is expanding yourself, altruism is sacrificing yourself. The word has a bad meaning but everything we do is in our own best interest, even if that's the good feeling from helping others. Might as well feel good about it than suffer for it. So if you're doing something good because it just feels right, that's selfish, if you're doing something good but getting all pissed off and angry because you're not getting a payoff, then you're sacrificing yourself for that payoff.

Excellent explanation, Reset -

I've always accepted the Robert Heinlein maxim that "altruism" is based in self-deception, which is the root of all evil.

Johnny Soporno
Worthy Playboy

 

[Johnny Soporno]

Haha Johnny is awesome

Thanks again, Wolfie!

JS