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DJVladdy said:
I don't know guys, maybe Johnny or Dong you guys practice black magic or some other crazy stuff and score all these girls, if I could ever go to the bar with you - I'd love to.
Where do you live, Vlad? I'm speaking all over the US and Western Europe as well as Australia this year, maybe we'll get a chance to meet up?

There's no magic to anything I'm sharing, just simple, fundamental stuff.

Treat women as people, ACTUALLY listen to what they have to say, contribute to shared conversations with them (rather than just telling them about yourself and your interested) and they will find you charming and attractive.

The hotter the girl, THE LESS LIKELY she'll have had many guys behave that way toward her, and therefore the more likely it will have a PROFOUND effect. In other words, the more attractive she is, the more effective JUST TREATING HER AS A PERSON will be.

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Johnny I think a key problem that most guys have is having access to gaming attractive women, or simply conversing up to a level where they hook up. I know a lot of guys simply find it hard to get into 1 on 1 situations, a long interaction with her. I mean to do this you are relying on a very good social circle and/or being a top dog when you cold approach in public. A lot of guys could do ok if someone put a girl infront of them and made her stay for 30 mins but many girls don't like giving a lot of time. Either you were able to get involved to get a lot of 1 on 1 time with girls, or you are exaggerating. My guess is a combination of both but that's just MY opinion based on my cynical view of the world.

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potato said:
...Johnny’s key points are the same ones that always pop up in PUA literature – the saying you have/have had stripper girlfriends, saying that you don’t want to be seen as a customer, and the go out to eat with strippers after their shift to eat. Go ahead guys follow Johnny’s advise...
Good point - The things I'm explaining, and have been doing for nearly 20 years successfully, and sharing publicly throughout the community, (as I always do) have been detailed and confirmed in other mainstream Pickup literature.

If that isn't a glowing testament to their provability-in-field, I don't know what more you want
That is the joke though, isn’t it? The typical PUA type doesn’t do well in strip clubs because the strippers tend to be more on top of it than the PUA. The good strippers do play a game of playing a game. PUA types tend to be one game down. I’ve always thought that stripper game given in PUA literature was because no one knew any better.

When I hang with guys that regularly get strippers, there is a completely different mind set than what is common in the seduction community. The strippers that I know all are part of the artsy, hippy-ish, pot smoking, do what you want kind of crowd – highly liberal, highly irreligious. Being part of that community matters more than any game.

Which of course brings me back to a common theme that I like to point out. One is far more successful when pursuing women with whom one is most compatible.
 

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There is more then one way to skin a cat.

The more and more I hang around this community and read up on all things that work for different people, the more I realize what a wide spectrum of game women will accept. Certain things will work for certain men, and certain things will work on certain women. For example Johnnies’ methods might not work on conservative women with high urge for family, and one man life. And at the same time "pretty boy" game might not work on girls who are in adult industry, simply because they are surrounded by that type of shallowness all the time. Some guys succeed by being overly sexual, and bluntly hitting on girls, while other guys get the girls by getting them to compete for his attention. You can free a girl from her general misconceptions about life, and let her enjoy her sexuality with you and every other guy....or you can constrain her with those social misconceptions (ei; player Supremes pimp game)


I live in Windsor, witch is 4 hours away from Toronto, so I can only assume that the strip clubs are the same, and that the game is the same. As I’ve previously reveled here I’ve spent a lot of time in strip clubs in the last year. And yes, I can confirm, through experience that what Johnny teaches about strippers is right. They hear game all the time, and they are ready for it, they expect it....and they heard it all before. The only two ways you'll ever get a girl out of a strip club is by either being really good looking (to her) or by connecting with her on a whole different level, then most guys in that club do. You got to talk to her as a person. You have to be interested about what she is saying. You have to listen, and ask questions about her....and at the same time YOU HAVE TO HAVE FUN WITH HER. You got to make her feel good. She needs to feel safe with you. And yes you can do all that without being an average frustrated chump. For some reason there is a belief in this community that the minute a man puts his hand on a woman’s back and actually listens to her, and has an adult conversation with, that he is a chump....Most of those people believe that you have to Rough manly and sharp with women all the time. That’s wrong. They just need to feel your manly presence – that’s all. One day those people will realize that, the minute they start being happy with them selves, and once their self esteem stops being dependent on other people. There is nothing wrong with actually being friendly with a woman and spend time with her...... I loved doing that...I’ve seen plenty of pvssy in the last 6 years...but what I really wanted was to talk to women...get to know them....enjoy the way they laugh, the way they move, the way they talked....I was seeing past the pvssy....

My mistake was - I was a customer. I established that the minute I walked in and got a lap dance. It's one of the things I didn't know at the time. You really have to separate your self from the rest of the crowd - you’re different. She has a lot of drama in her life...and you actually care about her...it makes her feel special. SHE IS A WOMAN – NOT A ROBOT, you just have to push the right button to remove the metal casing (shield) that protects her. I retired from the strip club scene on new years, and haven't been back since.

What you guys got to remember is no woman is the same. They might be similar, but they are not the same. Most guys won’t believe this but I’ve met more brilliant, spiritual, and open minded girls in a strip club then anywhere else. They might be little emotionally shaken up...but that’s why you have the skill to temporarily make them feel incredible.....and that’s why they will love you.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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spider_007 said:
...I can confirm, through experience that what Johnny teaches about strippers is right. ...You got to talk to her as a person. You have to be interested about what she is saying. You have to listen, and ask questions about her....and at the same time YOU HAVE TO HAVE FUN WITH HER. You got to make her feel good. She needs to feel safe with you. And yes you can do all that without being an average frustrated chump.

Most guys won’t believe this but I’ve met more brilliant, spiritual, and open minded girls in a strip club then anywhere else. They might be little emotionally shaken up...but that’s why you have the skill to temporarily make them feel incredible.....and that’s why they will love you.
Thanks for speaking up, SpideyBond...

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My first sexual experience was with two strippers in Bali. I was 14, they were 25. They scooped me up and fvcked me for two weeks, free of charge. I was like their cute little project. Thanks ladies

A couple years later I hooked up with another 2 strippers in Hawaii. They picked up on training me how to fvck where the others left off, that is when I wasn't kicking back watching them play with each other. Mahalo girls.

I just met a really cool, really sexy exotic dancer. The will be fun, and a fun friend.

Strippers are people too . . . wow what a concept . . .
 

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Dongfu said:
My first sexual experience was with two strippers in Bali. I was 14, they were 25. They scooped me up and fvcked me for two weeks, free of charge. I was like their cute little project. Thanks ladies
bollocks!!
 

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L777 said:
bollocks!!
Hey man, I'm just that lucky. And I certainly have better things to do than hang around some forum, making up lies to sound cool. Come on bro :rolleyes:
 

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Dongfu said:
Hey man, I'm just that lucky. And I certainly have better things to do than hang around some forum, making up lies to sound cool. Come on bro :rolleyes:
Riiiiiight
 

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mr_elor said:
Time to get this thread back on track.

I actually brought Johnny's Two Rules up with a girl I was with last night, and she totally agreed with it.

I also brought up the point that relationships should never feel like an obligation, you should both be there because you both want to be there. From what I gather her previous boyfriends have been very clingy so I guess this is why it seemed to strike a chord with her.

Of course this could be a fluke, so obviously I'm going to have to tell this to more girls :p
I tell both things, along with many others, to virtually every girl I'm even remotely interested in - and gauge based-upon their immediate feedback whether they are even in the market I'm after. :)

Remarkably, 90+ percent immediately connect with it!

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The Videos remain available for FREE DOWNLOADING / WATCHING from www.SeductiveReasoning.com -

They WILL help your Game, and your life. (And they're free to all)

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I have to admit i have mixed opinions on what you have to say Johnny, both good and bad.

but the fact is your sharing your knowledge with everyone for free and that to me deserves some respect from everyone!.

So to go ahead and give Johnny Soporno crap just because they disagree with or don't believe in what he has to say is very pathetic.

I understand my grammar or whatever is'nt brilliant, but thankyou Johnny for the the links to the videos...appreciate it....and keep up the great work!

Demonic
 

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Last weekend I was out at a club. There was this guy that looked vaguely like Johnny Soporno – same bad choice of clothing and even the same stupid devil horns. I watched for awhile to see if women approached him – especially to see if his horns created any interest – like Johnny claiming girls approach him all the time out of curiosity about his horns.

After around an hour I hadn’t seen one women talk to the guy except for the ****tail waitress. I then asked several women of their opinion of him. We all had a good laugh at his expense.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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potato said:
Last weekend I was out at a club. There was this guy that looked vaguely like Johnny Soporno – same bad choice of clothing and even the same stupid devil horns. I watched for awhile to see if women approached him – especially to see if his horns created any interest – like Johnny claiming girls approach him all the time out of curiosity about his horns.

After around an hour I hadn’t seen one women talk to the guy except for the ****tail waitress. I then asked several women of their opinion of him. We all had a good laugh at his expense.
ATLEAST that guy had the balls to try something diffrent, many people like yourself no doubt can sit and write **** about other people when they themselfs have'nt the guts to try something abit risky or silly.
 

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demonic said:
ATLEAST that guy had the balls to try something diffrent, many people like yourself no doubt can sit and write **** about other people when they themselfs have'nt the guts to try something abit risky or silly.
So we're supposed to applaud someone for showing up at a club wearing devil horns, even if it doesn't work?

give me a break.
 

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Johnny Soporno said:
The Videos remain available for FREE DOWNLOADING / WATCHING from www.SeductiveReasoning.com -

They WILL help your Game, and your life. (And they're free to all)

Johnny Soporno
I've watched the first 4, and I have thoroughly enjoyed them all, lots of what you have to say really made me adapt my thinking on life and todays society and I admire that you spread your insight for free Johnny, good work, I'll make sure to watch the others when i have some spare time :up:
 

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Master Bates said:
So we're supposed to applaud someone for showing up at a club wearing devil horns, even if it doesn't work?

give me a break.
Re-read what i said, i'm not saying you should do that atall...just that people like "Potato" will take the piss outta people who are trying diffrent things and not trying anything new themselfs.

I would'nt ever wear horns, but atleast he had the balls to do it and that's better than not having any atall.
 

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demonic said:
ATLEAST that guy had the balls to try something diffrent, many people like yourself no doubt can sit and write **** about other people when they themselfs have'nt the guts to try something abit risky or silly.
Actually I have tried a lot of crazy things with women. It is what leads me to instinctively question the supposed wisdom of Johnny Soporno.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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