Post your Club'N Knowledge

[Dee-Zy]

Originally posted by Oxide
what the hell?

i could type up pages , but why dont u just search and ask a mod to put all of them together.


here is my tip - dont be a ***** go and dance with girls.

Funny how u are the one say'N that and now you are the one in this thread the most



great stuff here guys - keep em coming

GHOST

 

[Oxide]

yeah cause i see that i can actually help some guys right now, so why not? would u rather have me not share anything?


more ?'s?

 

[DominicanDJ]

Well when I go up to girl and ask her to dance, sometimes I wait for some eye contact first. Or sometimes I just go up to them and say

"Hey could dance with me the next song or THIS song?"
if she says, no.....I say..
"Ok I won't bother you again, but dance with me this time, don't embarass me in front of everyone" (the dance with you most of the time) Oh yeah say "please".

If they say "I don't know how to dance"
you say......
" Don't worry about it, neither do I, perhaps we can learn together".

 

[jamesx47]

Finding romances in clubs is like finding love from women who hate you.

 

[Mr. Fingers]

Hey guys, nice thread and some great input here! Oxide you sound like you are fun as hell to party with. If I ever end up in Minnesota, I will be giving you a shout, holmes!

Now, as a Disc Jockey, I consider myself somewhat of an expert on this. So here's my 2 dollars worth of advice.

Rule #1 - Perfecting your groove

Decent dance skills are a MUST! Take some classes, or do what I did and make friends with dancers and learn by observation/mimicking. Practice at home in your undies (a la "Risky Business") Oh, and its not gay if you buy a full-length mirror to perfect those moves..all professional dancers do it. Whatever you do, make sure you dont fall into the zone of the two-step Wanker Shuffle, You know, those guys that only step from side-to-side all night long. Learn to do some turns, twist those hips to the beat, VARY your movements because dancing is a sexual analogy. Many girls read this as

Repetitive dance moves = boring lay
Evolving dance moves = multiple orgasms

Most importantly, go to clubs where you are actually FEELING the music. It is imperative that you have a GREAT time while you sarge !

Rule #2 - Dealing with dancing targets

Keep escalating things and don't give her a chance to change her mind (3s rule). Start with eye contact when you are at arms-length away. Lock eyes and smile while you dance. DON'T take your eyes off her as you approach. Fear should not be a consideration because at this point you are having the time of your life, remember? Get closer to her and keep that eye contact/smile. Once you are in her personal space put one hand on her waist. If she is cool with it, keep escalating the kino and draw her closer to you until your legs are intertwined. Dont hump her leg! twist your hips and get her to follow your movement until you are synchronized. You will get a nice sensual grind going for a minute and then pull away slowly while holding her hand. FOLLOW the music. Raise your arms at the peak moments of the song and dazzle her with your newly acquired moves. Don't touch her ass or tits. Twist your hips as you lower your body and touch the sides of her thighs with your fingertips. Twist your way back up and let your hands trace her sides until you reach her ribs then circle your arms around her and pull her close. Now you slow the pace of the dance and lay on the EC real thick. Do triangular gazing by looking at her eyes deeply while stealing furtive glances at her lips. I sometimes bite my lower lip a little since it is a way of saying "Damn, I am so hot for you". with out having to say it. If you have made it to this point without any resistance, you are almost guaranteed a kiss. If you dont get the kiss, one of my fave moves before I head for the next target is to do a take-away, lick my finger and place it on her hip or shoulder and make that PSSSSSHHH sound like she is hot as hell. They always love this and giggle like crazy!

Rule #3 - Actions speak louder

Talk is cheap and clubs are TERRIBLE for convos. I have picked up girls without saying more than a few words to them. Those words are usually, "Let's ditch this joint and go to the VIP afterhours party my place " They come to my place with zero rapport because (A) kino beats rapport any day (B) They are already turned on by my dancing/confidence/spontenaeity.

If you must blabber, get her as far away from the speakers as possible and put your mouth close to her ear and you hand around her waist. Deepen your voice and let your lips grace her earlobe every once in a while. A lot of times she will circle her arms around you and you get full body contact (Does the light get any greener?)

Rule #4 - Keep your head up!

Don't get discouraged when you get turned down. It is easy to let these things get to you and you will feel your energy drained. This is why I suggest going to a place with good music, it will keep you pumped because the girls are just icing on your fun cake! Getting turned down 5 times in a row? It's just tough luck, man. This is a numbers game so keep it moving and dont take sh!t personal. Occasionally you will get a good vibe with a girl and then something will happen to separate you (c0ckblock or whatever) Dont sweat, it..Keep her on the back burner for the night and dance with some other lucky ladies. It's a big turn-on for her to see other chicks having fun with you. You guys made an excellent point here, alot of these girls love to be chased around the club. Circulate your attention and keep visiting your top picks. Persistence destroys resistance!

I could keep writing but I am tired from last night's partying. I came up with a nice C&F routine on the fly though and I will leave you with this:

I approach a hottie I had danced with previously...

ME: So where are you headed now?
HER: I am so tired, I am going straight home.
ME: Do you live far?
HER: Not really I live at XYZ.
ME: Cool,...damn you really do look tired (kino on shoulder) You are going straight to sleep aren't you?
HER: Yeah I am pooped.
ME: You sleeping alone tonight? (sly grin)
HER: (smiles back) Yes.
ME: Really? With all these handsome guys here tonight (point to self) you couldn't find anyone to take home with you?
HER: (laughs)
ME: Now that's a crying shame.
HER: (laughs and shrugs)
ME: Tell you what, I am heading out as well and your house is on the way (blatant lie), let's split a cab!
HER: Sure!

We fluffed a bit in the cab and I put my arm around her because she was cold. I talked about how I love parties and the rush of excitement I feel when I am dancing. As if I am making love to the music and we are one. She was totally DDB on me as we pulled up to her apartment. I asked her if I could use her bathroom because I couldn't wait till I got home. She paid the cab driver and I told him to wait for me. The poor bastard never saw me again!

 

[Beanz]

I think Mr Fingers has given the great lines... DJ=Easy HB's, isn't it? You have free tickets, free drinks and all the stuff... My dream =)

Jamesx47 > Who spoke about "finding romance" ?

I personnally go in clubs to have fun, and to try ONS ( never had one, but I hope I'll have a lot

Dominican DJ I don't like your technique much, because it sounds like you haven't much confidence, this technique needs the pity of the girl, and I have nothing to do with her pity...
If she says so, be proud and go away. I know it's hard but I thinks it's the better way to do it...

But the "I can't dance" thing is really good lol

Otherways I think the better way to make an approach is the dance approach on the floor, or at the bar "Always good? Do you have some fun? Blabla"

Going to the girl isn't so good for me. Sounds like desesperate. YOu must think "I can have all the girls, one more or one less, I don't care about you"

Well, why do I know all this sh!t on face on my Computer, and why am I never apply this sh!t when I'm there? ^^

 

[Player_Supreme]

Mr. Fingers:

That was one of the best laid out posts Ive seen on this site.

amen to you brotha

 

[Livingitup22]

This may not help much, but I've found that I have much greater success in nightclubs if I'm more focused on having a good time than on managing a PU. This is an enviroment where having a relaxed DJ mindset, as opposed to a focused one, will make for better results.

Personally, I'm not big into clubbing. Not really my crowd, not really my music. Also, most clubs have an enviroment that assaults my senses (music, lights, smoke, skin etc.) to the point where, by the time I leave, I'm quite happy to be going home. My main motivations for going to bars/nightclubs/pubs is to talk and laugh and catch a buzz with my friends, and maybe have a little flirty conversation to refine my Dj skills if the opportunity presents itself.
All much harder to do in a club (except maybe for the buzz part)


So take my tips with a grain of salt, remembering that I'm lukewarm to nightclubs, though I do have fun on the rare occassions I go:


1. Dance: Because you want to and it's fun. Who the heck cares if you can't do it very well. You'll get better.

2.Don't get too drunk: Having some drinks is all part of the experience, but nobody likes a sloppy drunk. Getting drunk will give you courage, but also take away from your game, and women are far less likely to warm up to you if your noticeable intoxicated.

3.Talk: To everybody, not just girls. Chat up the bartender, the waitress, the guy standing next to you at the bar, AND the girl next to the dancefloor. Some will no doubt act disinterested(they're much more likely to be shy or distracted than offended by you) but most will be pleasant to you. Mingling is fun and vastly underrated. You do it at parties, right? Big Boys are sociable and unafraid of striking up a little conversation.

4. Go with friend(s): If you are quite new to the DJ experience, then going alone to the club and trying to get play is a good way to put some steel in your backbone. I did it a few times during my "recovery" and it helped loads. Good luck, just don't get frustrated. For everyone else, you will have much more fun with your pals than by yourself, and a wingman is a very valuable asset in a nightclub. The second time I went to club by myself, I had a sex close all but clinched, when a vicious little friend got involved and denied me the booty. But that's secondary. Who else is going to laugh with you, instead of just at you, when you take your two left feet out on the floor?

None of these are new ideas, but it's what works for me. Clubs are pretty challenging, even if your quite attractive, so consistently getting positive attention, even with any closes, is something to hang your hat on. Hope it helps.

 

[Mr. Fingers]

Beans,

You'd be surprised but I never have to use free drinks/passes. In fact, girls buy me drinks all the time! I think the greatest benefit of being a DJ is social proof. My strategy is to play great tunes and get everyone all worked up and then jump into the crowd every once in a while to dance with the hotties. :sigh: It's tough being me! Most of the time when I am not DJing, I don't flex any status, I am simply a regular guy out having a good time. I create social proof by dancing with multiple girls and that makes all the difference!

Player_Supreme,

It's nice to be appreciated when you have gone through the trouble of color-coding your text.
Cheers bro... cheers

 

[Nicholas Hill]

Added to bible!

 

[Dee-Zy]

already? lol

 

[Oxide]

of course. we are the club pro's.

fingers, last night iw as partying at my friends house and we had a friend DJ of 8 years spinning in the same room. i talked with him for quite a long time, he told me all about what stuff is good and what DJ-ho's are .

i actually grew up on techno music back in russia, and i always wanted to have such a hobby, but right now in a tight spot, or id buy myself some techics 1200

what kind of tips can u provide for starting out? equipment and things like that?


about dance steps. DO TRAIN, i dance at home when i hear a good song, becuase i used to breakdance and want to get back to it.


DO NOT DO SAME THING. more than half of the guys in the club are standing there moving their legs right-left-right-left.... aif u know how to dance u will be noticed. trust me.


also, this is proven to work by me, when u have this "i do whatever i want and i dotn give a **** if its funny or dorky" girls dig it. lately ive been loving song called "no letting go" by wayne wonder, so when i hear it in the club, i get in the middle, and just star singing it, close my eyes, put my hand on my heart and sing it like im singing it to the most dearest girl in the world. GIRLS go crazy. i see girls touch me, come close and bump and grind. they see that i can be sensative, they know im fun, they know i can dance, they know im the great catch

 

[Mr. Fingers]

Oxide, that is an excellent tactic I forgot to mention. The whole lip-sync serenade drives chicks CRAZY! Especially when it is a sappy love song. Fvckin hilarious dude.

Another trick is to really get to know the songs intimately so that you know when a break is about to hit. Freak your moves to match the transitions in the songs, follow the buildup with kino and when the dramatic ambient part of the dance tune comes, you go for the kiss. It takes practice and you will get rejected in the beginning, but once you learn to read her signals and synchronize your moves tightly, your dancefloor game will reach a whole new level..

As for DJing, I would say save up for those Technics man. Dont buy a Gemini or other table because technics is not only the best but they are standard EVRYWHERE you play. If you get accustomed to the pitch shift on a Gemini Table, you are fuct when you make the transition to Technics because they respond differently. You can buy a crap mixer, but dont be cheap on those decks! For now, do what I did when I started out. Find a friend with tables who will let you practice. Save some money for your own decks and also buy records once in a while. I was collecting records for 3 years before I even learned to mix!

In the meantime, keep those brilliant tips coming and I will also post here whenever inspiration strikes.

 

[PRMoon]

Living in Las Vegas i could write a text book on proper clubbing practices but I'll tell you the few things that work for me. First obviously is line passes/ VIP cards/free admission/ drinks cards. Get your hands on as many of these as possible. You can get you your boys and some random girls in to a club this way ahead of the typically un holy lines at good times like 10 pm to 1 am which is pretty much prime entery time. You never ever want to wait in the lines especially if you plan on making more then one stop. I waited in the line for Rain in the Palms casino for two and a half hours one time. The whole night was killed pretty much and some of my girls were actually at Club Rio right across the street in VIP and were waiting for a call which I couldn't get because I was in a casino blah blah its a mess never wait in lines.

The other important thing to remember while clubing is you only need 1 to 3 wing men while in a club. It's nice to go out with the boys but face it finding a group of single women who number more then 4 who will all be interested in hangin out with your and your guys will NEVER HAPPEN so keep your numbers reasonable. Also its usually hard to get more then 4 single guys into a club VIP or what not a head of the smokin hot chicks wh are trying the exact same thing. Finally if your like me and you like to do work for your wingmen to show them how much you appreciate them being there its easier to keep track of who you're with, what group of chics you're helping them out with, and you won't have to do too much grenade jumping while there either, if any at all because your numbers are good.

I go to some of the best night clubs in the US and I can tell you there are tons of details to be sorted out as well as tactics to optimize sucess while in the club so this thread is a great way to get some info on a really obsucre ritual that we all hope to master one day.

 

[Oxide]

fingers, its awesome how we add to each other, i forgot about getting to know the songs. i cant remember what song it was, but last week when i was in the club dancing with a girl there are these 2 parts when the beat goes silent to louder. well the first time we slowly went down together (oh boy did we go pretty far down ), adn when the second build up came up, we started slowwwly moving back up , at the same time i had my hand as a loudness level, so id slowly move it like it is the volume meter.
about wingmen. i prefer to go with just a buddy of mine or 2. if your friend knows his **** as well as you do yours, its easy to pick up girls (too bad my friends are just OK, but i try to help them ) dont bring more than 3 people, it will be harder.

thanks for DJ input as well. check this deal out. i wish i had the money right now
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[rastlin2021]

I have been clubbing for 2-3 times a week for the past 4 years...

I notice the best way in clubs is still down to 2 things :

- eye contact
- confidence (even your body language must display confidence)

Pickup lines are not that important if you displayed confidence...

 

[Nicholas Hill]

[ Dee-Zy: already? lol ]

Clubbin' posts tend to make it into the Bible quite easily

 

[Jay26]

Kewl tips guys, some questions:

When it comes to dancing, well obviously being a good dancer doesn't hurt, so what's the best way to get good?

...Just learn off MTV?

...or actually take classes?

I don't really see too many dance classes for club style dancing, it's mostly salsa and all that, but I guess that would be useful to know as well.

 

[Oxide]

go to clubs, look at people. ask guys to show you their best moves. remember, to learn ANYThing new, u have to see it yourself, so dont be afraid to ask a guy about the way he dances.

rotate the hips, follow the beat, move your arms, spin, whatever.

 

[trajhenkhet]

I had the pleasure of knowing a male and female acquaintence that took me to clubs with them. They were both incredible dancers and a bit of it rubbed off on me. While I'm no John Travolta the ladies do take notice.