porn

[Chamber36]

Should I stop watching porn?

I noticed I don't fantasize about girls who I know the way I used to. I figure if I just masturbate to mental images I'll subconsciously be more driven to Fvck these girls when I see them in RL.

 

[Vice]

Try it for a month and watch what happens. The drive will come to you, and the motivation will indeed "come" (heh).

I wrote a short ebook on this topic, I can send it to you for free under the condition that you provide feedback.

 

[Kerpal]

It's so ****ing hard to quit porn. Every time I try I end up asking myself why I should work my ass off and deal with all the flaking, rejection, etc., just to **** a 5, when I could open a porn site and masturbate to a 10 and be done with it.

 

[Vice]

It's so ****ing hard to quit porn. Every time I try I end up asking myself why I should work my ass off and deal with all the flaking, rejection, etc., just to **** a 5, when I could open a porn site and masturbate to a 10 and be done with it.

It depends on whether you think the benefits of quitting porn outweigh the rewards of not quitting.

Porn is like junk food for your brain. It'll numb your senses. Ever noticed how you interact with people after a porn session? Are you sharper, clearer? Or are your more dull, shy, afraid to take risks?

Excessive porn use can lead to depression, unrealistic physical expectations from women, and lower self-worth.

Do you want to be some beta schlub who whacks off to porn and plays call of duty at home all night, or would you rather be the guy that f*cks on a consistent basis?

 

[Kerpal]

The problem is that anything over a 5 isn't attracted to me. I'd honestly rather masturbate to a 10 than **** a 5. If I could get 7+ then I wouldn't need porn.

 

[Vice]

The problem is that anything over a 5 isn't attracted to me. I'd honestly rather masturbate to a 10 than **** a 5. If I could get 7+ then I wouldn't need porn.

That means that YOU'RE a "5". Women generally don't mess with guys lower than their "ranking". What you need to do is get yourself up to a 10. Porn itself is characteristic of being a "5". I've been working on myself for YEARS and I'm only now starting to reap a little results. But I can see a FOUNTAIN of ***** coming (heh) soon, it's only a matter of time and how quickly the college bars start being populated with women again (It's the fall doldrums, everyone's getting settled into school).

You're already working out; all that testosterone that you're building up from exercising needs to be refocused on developing your game. Two books I highly reccommend (besides my own) are Mantak Chia's "Taoist Secrets of Love" and of course David Deida's "Way of The Superior Man".

 

[Mike32ct]

I agree with Vice's anti-porn views.

But taking it even deeper (no pun intended), won't looking at too much porn eventually give a guy somewhat of a "creepy" vibe?

I mean think about it... It is a form of voyeurism. You become a bit obsessed with watching other people have sex. When you interact with women in real life, won't they feel like something is "a little off" with the guy?

I guess I'm wondering if long-term it will hurt your vibe and thus your attractiveness. Maybe I'm reading wayy too much into this...

 

[Serg897]

Im trying very hard to cut back also. Its been really difficult for me - its my own personal addiction that I've tried many times to beat and always fail after a short time of success. I haven't gone two days without masturbating in a while. Any practical tips for beating the addiction?

 

[Vice]

Im trying very hard to cut back also. Its been really difficult for me - its my own personal addiction that I've tried many times to beat and always fail after a short time of success. I haven't gone two days without masturbating in a while. Any practical tips for beating the addiction?

Delete your porn collection and install K9 web protection.

 

[AH909]

Porn is just like weed. It makes you feel happy for a short time but when your done you feel even ****tier than before. The best way to get out of the house and wear yourself out that your to tired to jack off when you get home. Go to the gym, run, walk, go fishing, go to a museum. My local guitar store has weekly jam sessions so if you play guitar go there. And if you dont know how to play then why not learn how to? You just gotta do anything

 

[lifeislearning]

Whether or not you should quit porn depends largely on what you use it for. Like any drug it is difficult not to abuse it as humans engage in it because it feels good, and hence, we are reinforced for engaging in that behavior.

I know many friends who have a unhealthy reliance on porn to fulfill their desires, and honestly, I have been a victim of that vice for many years.

Now, I use porn exactly like I use weed. I use both sparingly as their benefits are trivial and fleeting, but there are times where I am stressed or tired and nothing brings me down quite like weed or a whack-off session. Sex can work in the same function, but when I'm pushed to the limit I don't always want to put in the effort to please a woman, and thats when porn comes in handy.

 

[EFFORT]

It depends on whether you think the benefits of quitting porn outweigh the rewards of not quitting.

Porn is like junk food for your brain. It'll numb your senses. Ever noticed how you interact with people after a porn session? Are you sharper, clearer? Or are your more dull, shy, afraid to take risks?

Excessive porn use can lead to depression, unrealistic physical expectations from women, and lower self-worth.

Do you want to be some beta schlub who whacks off to porn and plays call of duty at home all night, or would you rather be the guy that f*cks on a consistent basis?

Couldn't agree with you more on this topic. Cutting out porn was one of the best things I've ever done for my life.

 

[SgtSplacker]

I'm gonna break this down in the way that I understand it. Maybe i'm wrong but here goes.

It's all about the chemicals the body creates, namely dopamine. The body sees a pretty girl and X amount of dopamine is released, you feel horny... awesome lets bang. Now you look at porn your body releases a ton of dopamine as we all know that internet porn is not even comparable to the suggested shape of a females buttox gently swaying under a delicate loose dress. So now you get used to porn bust massive nuts every 2 hours... great lets party. Then you see pretty girl again X amount of dopamine is released... but now your body is used to so much more dopamine it hardly reacts like it used to. Your body is still looking for the bondage chair, donkey and two black dudes, but this is a regular girl and she's so pretty why do I not feel like going and taking my chances to talk to her? ... See where this is going?

These chemicals also change your posture, attitude and willingness to leave your house and go get some putang. The posture and attitude change in a way that females notice. They will notice your sexually charged demeanor and want to bang you.

 

[ArcBound]

I'm gonna break this down in the way that I understand it. Maybe i'm wrong but here goes.

It's all about the chemicals the body creates, namely dopamine. The body sees a pretty girl and X amount of dopamine is released, you feel horny... awesome lets bang. Now you look at porn your body releases a ton of dopamine as we all know that internet porn is not even comparable to the suggested shape of a females buttox gently swaying under a delicate loose dress. So now you get used to porn bust massive nuts every 2 hours... great lets party. Then you see pretty girl again X amount of dopamine is released... but now your body is used to so much more dopamine it hardly reacts like it used to. Your body is still looking for the bondage chair, donkey and two black dudes, but this is a regular girl and she's so pretty why do I not feel like going and taking my chances to talk to her? ... See where this is going?

These chemicals also change your posture, attitude and willingness to leave your house and go get some putang. The posture and attitude change in a way that females notice. They will notice your sexually charged demeanor and want to bang you.

This is all true, and dopamine can cause addictions with pretty much anything. You play video games there is a massive dopamine release, as does your favorite TV show. Dopamine is just a reward system for good behavior, excitement, drugs and etc.

Everything in life needs to be done in moderation including porn, video games, partying, use of mind alterting substances etc..

 

[SgtSplacker]

This is all true, and dopamine can cause addictions with pretty much anything. You play video games there is a massive dopamine release, as does your favorite TV show. Dopamine is just a reward system for good behavior, excitement, drugs and etc.

Everything in life needs to be done in moderation including porn, video games, partying, use of mind alterting substances etc..

Reading up on this also taught me that women get some of their dopamine through drama/emotional outbursts like men do through sex or sexual things. So the same urges you have to look at a boob online, women also get by causing drama. Chick flicks are like porn for women in a sense.

 

[NorwegianDJ]

Vice, I was reading through your salespage and wanted to come up with some suggestions.

"Excessive pornography use can lead to depression, social anxiety, low energy levels, procrastination, and unrealistic expectations towards women! Learn how to gain an edge in dating by harnessing your sexual energy!"
I would replace the first '!' with a '.'. It just fits better.

You do a good job pursuing the reader to give up porn and give some logical negative things about porn; however, you don't encourage me to buy your book at all. I feel like the whole thing is very informative and pursuasive about the subject, but it neither makes me think that porn is really bad, nor "what else does this guy have to offer?"

I think you should add some more explaining why porn itself is bad, like elaborating on exercising healthy and unhealthy neural pathways. Then, add more on why I should buy your book.

"download the "Kill Your Porn & Masturbation Habit" eBook to get all of the latest tips, tricks, and techniques to gain an edge in dating, and bypass a habit that limits MOST other guys out there!"
I think this is the only phrase promoting your book. Tips, tricks and techniques that give me an edge.. It just doesn't spark an interest. I think you should elaborate, make it fancy. You know all those fancy, 10-page salesites. Make your product like they promote their product. Make me want it. Give me some examples that will "blow your mind" or "get the job done", excuse the pun. I can't really explain this, but I hope you get it.

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Personally giving up porn has worked out great for me, and currently I'm working on giving up masturbating. Definately finding it beneficial.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Chick flicks are like porn for women in a sense.

Yes. Romance novels, too, they are what makes Amazon's "Kindle" e-reader profitable, just like chick flicks keep Hollywood in business.

I've always said on here, for every guy with a porn collection there is a woman with a vibrator collection. They are just as horny as we are.

 

[Colossus]

I agree that porn is like junk food for your brain. It reinforces biochemical reward pathways and desensitizes you to real sexual excitement. A little junk food once in a while---ok. Doritos and cake binges every week---not so much.

As a side note, I have to throw in my $.02 on David Deida's "Way of the Superior Man" as a public service. I read (most) of this book 5 years ago. There are a few good nuggets in there; most of which you can find here at Sosuave. Other than that however, it's esoteric nebulous fluff. He wastes his words (and your time) talking about new-agey B.S. like "energies" and "hot and cold auras of certain women" (and that's just a sample)...of course with no real references to substantiate his claims. David Deida is part of a sad group of men who thinks their supposed sexual prowess makes them some sort of spiritual authority. Instead of reading on about such rubbish as storing sexual energy, cumming once a month, and drawing gender-wide conclusions based of a couple of anecdotes, guys could read through some key posts on Sosuave or check out a few rational, more evidenced-based blogs about using your mental faculties for better purposes than porn and spanking.

Not trying to slam you at all Vice, I'm just throwing my opinion out there.

 

[Vice]

I agree that porn is like junk food for your brain. It reinforces biochemical reward pathways and desensitizes you to real sexual excitement. A little junk food once in a while---ok. Doritos and cake binges every week---not so much.

As a side note, I have to throw in my $.02 on David Deida's "Way of the Superior Man" as a public service. I read (most) of this book 5 years ago. There are a few good nuggets in there; most of which you can find here at Sosuave. Other than that however, it's esoteric nebulous fluff. He wastes his words (and your time) talking about new-agey B.S. like "energies" and "hot and cold auras of certain women" (and that's just a sample)...of course with no real references to substantiate his claims. David Deida is part of a sad group of men who thinks their supposed sexual prowess makes them some sort of spiritual authority. Instead of reading on about such rubbish as storing sexual energy, cumming once a month, and drawing gender-wide conclusions based of a couple of anecdotes, guys could read through some key posts on Sosuave or check out a few rational, more evidenced-based blogs about using your mental faculties for better purposes than porn and spanking.

Not trying to slam you at all Vice, I'm just throwing my opinion out there.

I agree with what you said about David Deida's woo-woo new age stuff; you need to filter quite a bit of that out to get the useful stuff. I personally think it's there to increase word count so his book isn't so small (Two to three pages for one chapter, with a huge blank spot near the end). But there's also some great stuff in there. I say don't take it dogmatically, take whatever is useful from it and apply it to your life.

For example, I found that retaining my sexual energy and focusing it on building wealth as well as having the drive to meet women is useful to me. I'll occasionally blow a load on a girl's chest/mouth/face/whatever, but I try to make that the ONLY situation that such a thing happens; otherwise I'm just wasting energy that I can use for more useful things. And having an orgasm is fine (it relieves sexual tension, as well as pressure on the prostate), it's the ejaculation part that is what is costing you energy in terms of sperm production.

So:

Exclusive Orgasm = good, no energy is needed to maintain sperm levels, sexual tension relieved
Orgasm + Ejaculation = depletion of energy
Exclusive Orgasm to porn = Poor cognitive conditioning, ok for energy levels
Orgasm + Ejaculation to porn = Poor cognitive conditioning, depletion of energy

 

[CuriousGirl]

Should I stop watching porn?

I noticed I don't fantasize about girls who I know the way I used to. I figure if I just masturbate to mental images I'll subconsciously be more driven to Fvck these girls when I see them in RL.

You're only 21 so I shouldn't think you need to worry, going on the info given, maybe you just aren't that bothered about those girls anymore. Yeah you probably will be more driven to fcuk them if you do that often but is there really a need to want to fcuk these particular girls? Porn/masturbation problems vary from person to person, it's only if it's having a real negative effect on your life that it's a problem.

The problem is that anything over a 5 isn't attracted to me. I'd honestly rather masturbate to a 10 than **** a 5. If I could get 7+ then I wouldn't need porn.

If you have that attitude with random "under 5's" (hah/eew) then regular sex with random "over 5's" would probably form the same apathetic attitude. So fcuk someone's personality rather than looks alone and you'll probably find sex more satisfying.
A little like with porn, yeah you'd prefer to watch porn with a general beautiful girl than an average-looking girl but if you stumbled across a video of a girl you knew or a woman from work you'd be straight on that.

For example, I found that retaining my sexual energy and focusing it on building wealth as well as having the drive to meet women is useful to me. I'll occasionally blow a load on a girl's chest/mouth/face/whatever, but I try to make that the ONLY situation that such a thing happens; otherwise I'm just wasting energy that I can use for more useful things. And having an orgasm is fine (it relieves sexual tension, as well as pressure on the prostate), it's the ejaculation part that is what is costing you energy in terms of sperm production.

So:

Exclusive Orgasm = good, no energy is needed to maintain sperm levels, sexual tension relieved
Orgasm + Ejaculation = depletion of energy
Exclusive Orgasm to porn = Poor cognitive conditioning, ok for energy levels
Orgasm + Ejaculation to porn = Poor cognitive conditioning, depletion of energy

Surely it's only poor cognitive conditioning if you're doing it very regularly, and the only regular thing you were doing..or if you became addicted? If you were having regular sex with your partner too then would the porn be such a 'risk'? I wouldn't've thought so.

Also, one of my mates wants to be able to orgasm without ejaculation so if you have any tips that would be much appreciated and I can pass them on.