Porn star has kids with Ultimate Fighting Chapionship fighter

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Former porn star Jenna Jameson has kids with Tito Ortiz.

http://www.wmagazine.com/celebrities/2010/12/family_issue_portfolio_ss#slide=4

It seems to me that Jameson has just played out the typical American female's fantasy of mating scheduling. She was a super slut (can't get any sluttier than porn actress) in her youth, and then right before her eggs over-ripened, she secured the sperm of an elite fighter (which the UFC brand of fighting is the roughest), and now has become relatively chaste. I'll speculate that she is now in the market to marry a wealthy beta who used to pine to put his plumbing inside of hers while watching her movies, and now has the chance to secure intimacy with her super used equipment by simply accepting to be the stepfather to the bad boy's seed.
 

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Wow, when those kids grow up, they will see how their mom got fuvked routinely to make money. It's just disgusting. A woman who does this profession SHOULD NOT have children. It's simply disgusting. If you chose to sell your body, you shouldn't be allowed to have kids. Hey Joey! Why don't we watch your mom get ****ed before she had you tonight! Let's watch those tapes instead of riding our skateboards! OMG.
 

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I don't understand the hate. It's not like Tito Ortiz doesn't know her past. You are right that it may not work out. I'm guessing porn stars and UFC fighters on average aren't the most stable people, but I can't hate on either of them if they're happy together. What is a porn star to do? She has no business making movies anymore. Is she supposed to just retire and be an old maid? Sure her kids will get poked fun at in school yadda yadda yadda, but if they raise them well it won't be a big concern.
 

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Hard to believe that Tito Ortiz is a beta, but he seems to have made the most beta decision possible.
 

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No, the beta would be the guy that she would marry after the fighter.
 

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TheBucketOfTruth said:
I don't understand the hate. It's not like Tito Ortiz doesn't know her past. You are right that it may not work out. I'm guessing porn stars and UFC fighters on average aren't the most stable people, but I can't hate on either of them if they're happy together. What is a porn star to do? She has no business making movies anymore. Is she supposed to just retire and be an old maid? Sure her kids will get poked fun at in school yadda yadda yadda, but if they raise them well it won't be a big concern.
I agree man, besides Jenna sold her '30 million' porn empire to playboy the article said. That's pretty damn successful. I don't know much about porn, but it seems like an industry that tends to destroy and damage women, and toss them in the gutter, when they are done.

But Jenna was the top of the industry. She made a life for herself, and all that matters is that she is happy. If she can rise to the top of the porn industry and keep her sanity, that's pretty damn impressive actually.

The article says they both live together, I say great for them and wish them the best.
 

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Mr.Positive said:
I don't know much about porn, but it seems like an industry that tends to destroy and damage women, and toss them in the gutter, when they are done.
No one is forcing them into porn. It's consensual on their part. And what do you expect "the industry" to do once their good looks fade? Granny porn? Most people don't want to see that.

These women are just cashing in on their natural beauty for a few years. There's plenty of other sluts not in porn that do the same.
 

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"I’m just one of the moms who walk a double stroller every day."
Heheh,..never forget this line gentlemen. The 37 y.o. soccer mom with the down-to-earth smile and grace is the 27 y.o. porn star doing double penetration scenes.
 

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It makes you wonder if Tito really likes her "as a person" or if he's still with her because of a desire to promote his OWN image.

He seems like the type who could go either way.

That's what it's all about, isn't it? Image?? She needs a man to make her look like a legitimate lady and he needs a sex-symbol to make him look like he still has "street cred" after Chuck Liddell whooped his ass for the umpteenth time. :p

Who knows...maybe they have really fascinating pillow-talk.

Either way, good for them. I dunno why all the hate either. It's not like she's leeching off of Tito...she had a 30 MILLION dollar business, plus whatever she made as a pornstar. If I were her, I'd retire to be a stay-at-home mom too. :p

To be honest, half the kids being raised in America today had moms who slvtted it up at one point or other (and probably in the past too, although it wasn't talked about), the difference is that Jenna made BANK doing it. That's something that they'll have to deal with when it comes up, sure. But she quit the life. What would it take for you guys to no longer hold it against her?
 

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squirrels said:
What would it take for you guys to no longer hold it against her?

How many d1cks are acceptable? That's the question you are asking. The answer for me is, it doesn't matter. I only plan on hitting it and quiting it anyway. I don't plan on falling in love and having kids with it. I already have one. Worrying about if a chic is a slut and what her kids will think is the most beta thing ever. Fvcking alphas will screw her and pass her on to his buddy in the same night, hell in the same room. It's just a piece of meat to have fun with. Who cares for her children's lives? Not an alpha.

LOL I love mythical alpha rants. But seriously. Who many town *****s do you know who have kids? I know a few in the small towns around here. They survive. Their kids survive. Guys still use their moms as cvmdumpsters. Such is life.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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",..despite four implant operations—the last to have them removed. (“I thought: I’m getting rid of these things. I don’t need them anymore.”)
Yep, Tito's a beta.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Yep, Tito's a beta.
Exactly. She would only remove her tits with the firm belief that she "doesn't need them anymore" because she's got this lil puppy dog on a string.
 

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You guys crack me up, sitting in a dark corner of the Internet decreeing who is "Alpha" and who is "Beta". Tito may have his problems, but his left nut is more "Alpha" than half this forum.

He's not a "man of character" by any means...he's an arrogant punk, but he's a former world champion fighter and a successful entrepeneur, and has shown that he CAN be a good mentor/father figure when it suits him.

I dare any one of you to tell him to his face, "Stop being a b!tch and dump that cvm-dumpster of a wife". Most of you probably couldn't even look him in the eye. You can say all you want about what kind of person he is, but most people with his particular character end up dead or in jail by his age. The very fact that he's alive, not to mention flourishing, shows how "alpha" he is.

Sure, his judgment may be off getting married to a porn-star, but I guarantee if you ask him what he sees in her, he'd be like, "Hey...it's Jenna f**king Jameson". It's an image thing for him, like everything else in his life. Who else is the "Huntington Beach Bad Boy" supposed to marry? He doesn't have time to quest for his soul-mate...he's out doing sh*t like an "alpha male" should be.

I'm sure he's had enough 'tang thrown at him that after a while, he gets bored with it. I know several women who wanted to have his babies after Ultimate Fighter 3. But if you're a busy man who prefers to solve problems with his fists and doesn't really have time for "family" beyond his image, you only need women for one thing. And once you've had Jenna Jameson, what's the point in continuing to look?

I'm not saying I'D want to marry that skank, but given his goals, and the fact that he probably could care less, she may just be perfect for him.

He's not her meal-ticket...she has more money than him, probably. (Her own 30-million dollar porn company!!) He doesn't supplicate to her...if she steps too far out of line he beats the sh*t out of her. There are police reports to prove it. I would wager that a big part of her new, "Oh I'm just a mother pushing a stroller now" is out of deference to HIS wishes. And if he ever gets tired of her, he'll kick her to the curb. (he's done it before) I'm sure he'll have little trouble finding a new woman.

What the hell is a forum full of "alpha males" doing reading celebrity gossip anyway, for that matter?? Celebrity marriages have always typically been shams set up as part of a public image.

You can't sit there and compare a celebrity circus to a REAL relationship with REAL people who REALLY give a sh*t. Come on, guys.
 

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squirrels said:
You guys crack me up


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What the hell is a forum full of "alpha males" doing reading celebrity gossip anyway, ... ?

That's all you really needed to say. ;)
 

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squirrels said:
You guys crack me up, sitting in a dark corner of the Internet decreeing who is "Alpha" and who is "Beta". Tito may have his problems, but his left nut is more "Alpha" than half this forum.

He's not a "man of character" by any means...he's an arrogant punk, but he's a former world champion fighter and a successful entrepeneur, and has shown that he CAN be a good mentor/father figure when it suits him.

I dare any one of you to tell him to his face, "Stop being a b!tch and dump that cvm-dumpster of a wife". Most of you probably couldn't even look him in the eye. You can say all you want about what kind of person he is, but most people with his particular character end up dead or in jail by his age. The very fact that he's alive, not to mention flourishing, shows how "alpha" he is.

If he asked me what I thought of his wh0re I'd have no problem telling him.


Anyone who gets involved with this sort of woman is not mentally right and so they're probably a good match.
 

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slaog said:
If he asked me what I thought of his wh0re I'd have no problem telling him.


Anyone who gets involved with this sort of woman is not mentally right and so they're probably a good match.
You expect us to believe this? Honestly?

You call any man's gal a wh0re, and you are looking for a fight. Yet, you want us to believe you would tell a UFC champ, to his face, that his gal a wh0re?

Wow. I suppose some folks get a little tougher with internet talk, but this is off the charts!

Good post Squirrels, btw.
 

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slaog said:
If he asked me what I thought of his wh0re I'd have no problem telling him.
He didn't ask you, though.

Danger said:
Squirrel,

I have nothing but respect for you man.

But one very important thing I have learned in my time on this planet, is that ability to kick another man's ass does not determine how "alpha" you are.

If all this guy wanted was to make his star rise more, he just could have impregnated her, stuck around for awhile and then left. Instead he chose to MARRY her.

He reminds me of some people I know, all military actually, who are the epitome of white-knights. The woman must be protected and she is helpless. He must step up to protect her from everything. These men are among the most manipulated on the planet.

I know "alpha" is a nebulous concept at best, but he just does not make the cut in my eyes. And trying to call me out on this opinion because he could kick my ass does not negate my argument or make me any less "alpha".
Oh I agree, it was poor judgement on his part to marry her. But he doesn't know any better. That's more just "stupid" than "beta".

My point is that it isn't holding him down at all in the other important aspects of his life. Having a nagging ex-slvt wife doesn't make you a beta-male, it just makes you an idiot. Not knowing how to HANDLE that nagging slvtty wife...THAT is what determines "alpha" vs. "beta". In my eyes, anyway.

We go on and on in this forum about money, fitness, fame, success, and "high status". Tito, despite him being pretty much a meathead punk, has all of these. So say he's an arsehole. Say he's an idiot. But in my opinion, you can't sit there and throw around terms like "beta male".

It happens way too often on this website. Every crazy chick is "BPD", every guy in a less-than-perfect relationship is a "beta male", and we're all searching eternally for the elusive "quality woman".
 

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Alpha is a state of mind, not a demographic.

I personally know Marines who've been in fire fights in Afghanistan and Iraq who're some of the biggest AFCs you'd ever want to know. These are guys who've pulled the trigger on other people determined to kill them, but they'll blubber like children at the thought of losing their ONEitis girl. We're not talking HB 8+'s, these guys are completely owned by their overweight 4's and 5's.

I could relate countless other stories about very successful businessmen too. All guys that anyone would call Alpha - millionaires by their own determination - who're hopeless, plugged in chumps with women. So yeah, Tito would probably wipe the floor with anyone on SS, but it doesn't make him any less a beta. Would I tell him that to his face? Not in a fighting ring, but if he were crying on my shoulder and desperate to get out of some BPD relationship, you bet your ass I would.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
I personally know Marines who've been in fire fights in Afghanistan and Iraq who're some of the biggest AFCs you'd ever want to know. These are guys who've pulled the trigger on other people determined to kill them, but they'll blubber like children at the thought of losing their ONEitis girl. We're not talking HB 8+'s, these guys are completely owned by their overweight 4's and 5's.
Sadly, my cousin is one of these guys you speak of....

Fought in Iraq. (Dude had his best friend BLOW UP sitting 10 feet from him. Killed many people, probably had thousands of bullets fired at him.)

On one of his breaks back from fighting he meets a very attractive woman.

He goes back to war and they do the whole cute "letters every day to each other" thing.

He comes back on another break and they GET MARRIED. She then has his kid while he's over there...

He gets back and starts a civilian life about 4 years ago.

I see him 3-4 times a year; every time i see him he's more and more afc/betaised! She talks to him with such contempt and he just takes it! We're at family events and she's talking to him like he's her child...

They argue with each other on facebook... Or to be more real: She yells at him on facebook...

She goes out "clubbing" with her girls while he sits home with their child.

The list goes on...

The sad part is he's madly in love with her, while she posts nearly nude pictures of herself (literally no bra on, covering herself with her hand) on facebook and gets 20 guys commenting on how hot she is....

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He's seen death, he's dealt death, he's faced fear and survived! But he lets her treat him as if he's a stuffed animal or something.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Alpha is a state of mind, not a demographic.

I personally know Marines who've been in fire fights in Afghanistan and Iraq who're some of the biggest AFCs you'd ever want to know. These are guys who've pulled the trigger on other people determined to kill them, but they'll blubber like children at the thought of losing their ONEitis girl. We're not talking HB 8+'s, these guys are completely owned by their overweight 4's and 5's.

I could relate countless other stories about very successful businessmen too. All guys that anyone would call Alpha - millionaires by their own determination - who're hopeless, plugged in chumps with women. So yeah, Tito would probably wipe the floor with anyone on SS, but it doesn't make him any less a beta. Would I tell him that to his face? Not in a fighting ring, but if he were crying on my shoulder and desperate to get out of some BPD relationship, you bet your ass I would.
From what I know about him, though, he isn't the type to cry on anyone's shoulder about relationship problems. That's what I'm getting at. He had a kid by another woman and dumped her for Jenna...he'll dump Jenna if the situation suits him.

I don't see him blubbering over a woman. That was an assumption that was made by people on this forum based on some celebrity gossip article and a lot of generalizations/assumptions.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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