POF is NOT as easy as it used to be

[Robert28]

Let me start off by saying that POF, while full of hogs, daddy seekers, seperated women, women looking just for the hell of it, etc, you could still at least occasionally meet a decent/hot looking girl to bang. boy how times have changed! this is my second time on the site and what worked before ain't working now! i could send out message after message and get a return rate of 75% at the LEAST. i'd get so many replies that i didn't have time to write them all back. nowdays it seems that for every 10 messages i send out, 5 are read and never responded to, 3 are read and deleted, and one gets unread and deleted for God sakes! the one that DOES respond does so half assily, or either they will respond once or twice more and never respond again. you send them a quick follow up email a week or so later saying something like "so, already ignoring me now huh?" and you get blocked! they used to respond to that sh!t everytime and more times then not offer their number to you and gave some lame excuse as to why they didnt respond. you didnt ask for the number, they just gave it!

the other thing i've noticed is unless you have time to sit in front of a computer all day and email these b!tches back and forth all day long, you will be forgotten very quickly. if you email a girl and she seems interested, you better not let your job, exams, etc get in the way because if you respond two days later guess what, shes moved on or has a chip on her shoulder because you took 2 days to write back. now she goes to ignoring you.lol

then there are the times they do give you their number, everything seems to be going smoothly. you talk to them once, maybe twice and never hear from them again.

this sh!t is way harder then it use to be on this site and seems to be more trouble then its worth. anyone else having as bad of an experience as i am? like i said, this is my second time on there and my golden ways of old arent working for sh!t now. whats changed???

 

[DJ2011]

Reality

I'm gonna fill you in on something. Guys are totally flooding all of these sites to a point where ghirls have become super picky!!! You're messages have to be unique & stand out big time....HOW DO I KNOW? .....

I made up a fake profile with a pic of a hot chick I found on the internet. I only did this because i wanted to see how my profile was being viewed & what the women see.. WELL..I kid you not bro I got about 75 emails in 10 minutes. And about 40 guys tried to pop into an IM session with me.
It got so crazy I had to shut off the computer...I can only imagine what these girls are going through damn!!

This is disturbing!!! So my suggestion is to be mad unique! totally different...Im noticing most of the subjects in the emails are Hi. No good

This is a good experiment...I'll follow up my results

 

[Matthew Lyon]

I'm gonna fill you in on something. Guys are totally flooding all of these sites to a point where ghirls have become super picky!!! You're messages have to be unique & stand out big time....HOW DO I KNOW? .....

I made up a fake profile with a pic of a hot chick I found on the internet. I only did this because i wanted to see how my profile was being viewed & what the women see.. WELL..I kid you not bro I got about 75 emails in 10 minutes. And about 40 guys tried to pop into an IM session with me.
It got so crazy I had to shut off the computer...I can only imagine what these girls are going through damn!!

This is disturbing!!! So my suggestion is to be mad unique! totally different...Im noticing most of the subjects in the emails are Hi. No good

This is a good experiment...I'll follow up my results

Damn good point.

A better idea is just to date in the real world and avoid internet dating. I think it's used by guys as a security blanket. Not good. If you cannot approach beautiful, attractive women in reality, then the last place you want to be is on POF. Not saying it's true in your case, however, to anyone it may apply. In most cases it is true and used to be for me.

 

[Jariel]

I'm not sure why everyone is having a problem with POF. I only signed up a month ago, been laid 3 times, got a friend with benefits (my choice) and so many prospects I've literally lost track. I've had women flake or just stop replying, but there have always been plenty more to fill their place.

I've got them giving me their numbers asking me on dates, but I literally don't have enough time to date them all or even half of those who offer. I understand why so many of these women flake, because I'm doing it myself. I'm just prioritizing the women who I connect the best with, are most keen and are the hottest of course.

I put it down to 2 things. I'm in good shape. Even though I don't have my shirt off, my photos show that I'm muscular and toned.

Secondly, I've written my profile to make me sound approachable and romantic, more interested in a bond with women than casual sex. That's not to say I don't get casual sex...a woman with emotional ties will take whatever I offer.

I recently added a little rant on my profile about fakes, freaks and women who lie about their age and weight. This has been getting a big response as women can relate to it, having being messaged by freaks and fakes themselves. They read that and most likely think I'm different to those types.

 

[squirrels]

Half the game in finding women to hook up with is "staying ahead of the curve".

In my "clubbing" days, I used to notice that nightclubs underwent a certain lifecycle. A new place will open up, a few girls will hear about it and will choose to go there to get away from the hordes and be able to dance/hang out casually. They'll run into a couple of cool guys and hook up.

Then the guys tell their friends they met some "hot girls" at this new place. Within about a month, the place is so crammed full of guys who "word got out" to that a girl can't take two steps in any direction without having a d!ck thrown up in her face.

Sooner or later, the girls just "leave"...they may come in for a drink or two but the good ones are only in the place for 5 minutes at a time before they bounce to the next place, to avoid giving guys the time to work up the nerve.

After a while, the club is just full of frustrated guys and girls who are fishing for attention.

PoF is like an Internet nightclub. If you're just signing up NOW, then you're too late. The women are already bailing on that turd and looking for the next website where they can discreetly find decent guys to f**k.

MySpace was like that too in the beginning...when MySpace first opened, it was a GOLDMINE for meeting cool girls who not only enjoyed getting a little "freaky" but also were above-the-curve as far as personality went. After all, they had found the "cool thing" before other people. And it was discreet...no one knew about it, so if they happened to "hook up" with this guy or that guy, it wasn't like they'd be shamed over it.

Then all the guys started telling their friends, "hey, try this MySpace website"...and they told their friends, and they told their friends. I talked to girls that I met on that site...it was like all of a sudden it went from just casual chatter/meet-ups to girls getting spammed with 100s or 1000s of messages daily. Like someone set off a hormone bomb. Guys got to thinking they had found the "easy lay".

The same exact thing has happened to PoF. You need to find the next site. We all do.

I'm only still on that website because I really don't know where the hip place to pick up women is now...and because I don't spend a whole lot of time trolling for women any more.

 

[DonGorgon]

I'm gonna fill you in on something. Guys are totally flooding all of these sites to a point where ghirls have become super picky!!!

same goes for real life also.. there is an over population of males everywhere so women have too many options and are very picky.. 90% of women are only interested in 10% of the men around them so that leaves 90% of males to be very very desperate

the net is even more about looks cause they see you pic and its a split second judgement.. each women even ugly and fat ones get around 30 messages a day.. over time they get burned out and just dont take it seriously cause they can only do so much hoing..

 

[DonGorgon]

this sh!t is way harder then it use to be on this site and seems to be more trouble then its worth. anyone else having as bad of an experience as i am? like i said, this is my second time on there and my golden ways of old arent working for sh!t now. whats changed???

have you ever wondered why they call gay men "gay" as in happy??? cause they eliminate the desperate chase aspect of being a straight man looking for women for F... and that makes them very happy .. ever noticed how carefree and happy they usually look even when no women are around?? yup but straight doods look frustrated and disgruntled..

 

[DonGorgon]

Damn good point.

A better idea is just to date in the real world and avoid internet dating. I think it's used by guys as a security blanket. Not good. If you cannot approach beautiful, attractive women in reality, then the last place you want to be is on POF. Not saying it's true in your case, however, to anyone it may apply. In most cases it is true and used to be for me.

same situation exists in real life

 

[The College Jock]

Lol.

 

[Korrupt]

A lot of the women on these sites are just in it for the attention and have no intention of meeting up with you or anybody else from these dating sites. I've gotten numbers, texted them, they asked me who I was, then when I told them they never responded. I've had girls just stop responding mid convo. I've had flakes galore. Etcetera..

Here's the "success rate" I've come up with.. Let's say you message 1000 girls. Most likely only 300 of them will get back to you. Then only 100 will keep conversing with you. Then you'll probably only get about 50 numbers. Then only 10 of them go anywhere. So depending on your actual game, you'll lay roughly about 1-10 out of 1000 girls off these sites.

 

[DonGorgon]

A lot of the women on these sites are just in it for the attention and have no intention of meeting up with you or anybody else from these dating sites. I've gotten numbers, texted them, they asked me who I was, then when I told them they never responded. I've had girls just stop responding mid convo. I've had flakes galore. Etcetera..

Here's the "success rate" I've come up with.. Let's say you message 1000 girls. Most likely only 300 of them will get back to you. Then only 100 will keep conversing with you. Then you'll probably only get about 50 numbers. Then only 10 of them go anywhere. So depending on your actual game, you'll lay roughly about 1-10 out of 1000 girls off these sites.

male over population is such that many females dont take men seriously until they want or need something .. its not their fault its just a male over load..

 

[56andre]

Half the game in finding women to hook up with is "staying ahead of the curve".

In my "clubbing" days, I used to notice that nightclubs underwent a certain lifecycle. A new place will open up, a few girls will hear about it and will choose to go there to get away from the hordes and be able to dance/hang out casually. They'll run into a couple of cool guys and hook up.

Then the guys tell their friends they met some "hot girls" at this new place. Within about a month, the place is so crammed full of guys who "word got out" to that a girl can't take two steps in any direction without having a d!ck thrown up in her face.

Sooner or later, the girls just "leave"...they may come in for a drink or two but the good ones are only in the place for 5 minutes at a time before they bounce to the next place, to avoid giving guys the time to work up the nerve.

After a while, the club is just full of frustrated guys and girls who are fishing for attention.

PoF is like an Internet nightclub. If you're just signing up NOW, then you're too late. The women are already bailing on that turd and looking for the next website where they can discreetly find decent guys to f**k.

MySpace was like that too in the beginning...when MySpace first opened, it was a GOLDMINE for meeting cool girls who not only enjoyed getting a little "freaky" but also were above-the-curve as far as personality went. After all, they had found the "cool thing" before other people. And it was discreet...no one knew about it, so if they happened to "hook up" with this guy or that guy, it wasn't like they'd be shamed over it.

Then all the guys started telling their friends, "hey, try this MySpace website"...and they told their friends, and they told their friends. I talked to girls that I met on that site...it was like all of a sudden it went from just casual chatter/meet-ups to girls getting spammed with 100s or 1000s of messages daily. Like someone set off a hormone bomb. Guys got to thinking they had found the "easy lay".

The same exact thing has happened to PoF. You need to find the next site. We all do.

I'm only still on that website because I really don't know where the hip place to pick up women is now...and because I don't spend a whole lot of time trolling for women any more.

I agree....

I would'nt of belived you if I did'nt experience the same thing.

Havent been on pof long & wont be on it much longer (got a sporting injury so just checking out the jazz...)

Anyway I've been ther for like a month putting some effort into it, & to put it short, it's full of bullsh1t.

On the other hand, on my phone there is a pre set dating site that's on it that my server provided, hardly put any effort in, just fvcking around putting some of my pics up & the goods are put up for me on a platter. Like I asked some hot chic when were going to meet up & her reply msg is "ASAP were bout's do you live". I ask another for her no. & I get it. Funny thing is I expected them to brush me off but they end up persuing, on the other hand on pof chic's on there would'nt even give up ther email & ther not even hot stuff...

It says like there is 1,000 people online, as compared to pof's 200,000.

this is from another thread on my pof profile:

I am totally not encouraging anyone to go on dating sites or facebook for that matter, it degrades your sense of purpose & separates you from reality...

That being said, I've recently had an operation on a sporting injury & have nothing to do so I made a pof profile & this is my description....



Quote:



Occupation: gangstar

I like to club, drink, eat, lift, drive fast machines, hang with the boys, make out with random women & watch sports!!

I'm none discriminant, I like black, white, chinees, tall, small, crazy, modest & everything in between...



U girls do realise that the real men are out there & don’t have time to be on a dating site like this as they would be too busy railing real pussies & will actually think it's a little gay that ther is dating sites...........I sound hypocritical I know, I guess I'm pathetic. I'm just passing time after having a sporting injury, can't really do much but be a pathetic loser on a dating site & watch porn (hint: that's what the guys are like on here)

Ladies, i could'nt give a flying fukk about ur opinions to this. Why? because as much as you hate guys like me on paper, when u meet us out in the real world, we make ur puzzies wet.

Not gonna be here for much longer, so girls leave an email in your mssage!

 

[Jariel]

Interesting information I just discovered. I was chatting to a couple of the girls I've been seeing from POF and asking if they get messaged much. One girl said in her first week of signing up she received over 500 messages. Another one said she gets around 50-100 per day.

I asked how they narrow it down to guys they like and they both said they just scroll down looking for the thumbnails that catch their eye. If they see a guy they like they check the message and profile. Everyone else gets deleted without even getting their mail or their profile looked at.

In other words, make you profile picture count and make sure it looks good as a thumbnail!

 

[omkara]

^ What kind of stuff did you write to make your profile sound more authentic and traditionalist, etc., like you mentioned in another thread? I PM'ed you but your inbox was full.

I want to change my profile text to something less "bad ass" and intense to something more that would attract the good girls, because those are the types of girls who would end up liking me anyway. (Although I can certainly be intense in ways, I'm not a guy that's going to be getting in fights or running guns any time soon.)

Btw I almost always have girls check my profile after I email them, so I must not be targeting the obvious girls that every guy wants. I think the whole "50-100 messages a day" thing gets exaggerated. There are a lot of girls that get a manageable amount of messages, once you wander off the beaten path a little bit.

From another thread:

"An 18-year-old woman with a so-called cleavage shot for her profile gets about 14 new contacts per month on average — 24% higher than the typical non-cleavage-baring 18-year-old. At age 32, she gets about 13 new contacts — but now that's a whopping 79% higher than high-collared women of the same age."

So an average 18 y/o with non slutty pic would be getting 11 new contacts a month, and a 32 y/o would be getting 7. I could make that many new contacts myself in a good month, and they would be girls of my choosing.

 

[Poonani Maker]

I used to have success with POF but no more BE-CAUSE POF has effectively screened out my profile labeling me as one who messages for sex, when I absolutely Have Not ever done that. It says after 4 times being reported by women, you get that stigma (EVEN IF the women are lying as you and I know MOST do). I haven't received a message or a view in over 2 months. I guess I could always make another profile but I liked the one I already had and haven't fvckin felt like making another one just yet. That's ok, cause I'm sure to get with a 25 yr old Hawaiian chick Saturday, and will probably fvck her. POF was about an 1/8 of my options but now I just have to find em somewhere else until I get another profile. No big deal.

 

[Jariel]

^ What kind of stuff did you write to make your profile sound more authentic and traditionalist, etc., l

Basically here's what my profile says...

"I have quite old fashioned values and like a woman who appreciates chivalry. I find femininity in a woman extremely alluring and like a woman who respects a man for being a man. I'm the sort of guy who prefers romantic meals, walks in the countryside, and cosy nights in watching movies to all night clubbing.

I'm looking for an attractive lady with a mind of her own and who can hold a conversation. I'm seeking that chemistry you feel when you meet someone special, to be with someone for hours and lose track of time, who makes me feel excited whenever we're about to see each other."

I know it sounds quite soppy, but I'm playing into their emotional fantasies. Plus a lot of these women are jaded by the player/bad boy type, so are seeking someone more sensitive - initially. Obviously, this would fall flat with a woman looking for casual sex, but for women seeking relationships it seems to go down really well.

 

[omkara]

Thanks a lot dude, I appreciate it - considering that you've had a lot of success with it.

I like to experiment with the beta bait and switch tactic.. tell them what they think they want to hear and then amp it up from there. "In like a needle, out like a plow." As has been pointed out here recently, the ******* thing usually only works once a girl has become emotionally invested in you. If she's not then she can easily write you off.

 

[oneboy21]

Don't make online dating as priority, it should be second importance.
First is Day game/Night game.
ONline is only when are really bored and want to check some women online

 

[Solomon]

Basically here's what my profile says...

"I have quite old fashioned values and like a woman who appreciates chivalry. I find femininity in a woman extremely alluring and like a woman who respects a man for being a man. I'm the sort of guy who prefers romantic meals, walks in the countryside, and cosy nights in watching movies to all night clubbing.

I'm looking for an attractive lady with a mind of her own and who can hold a conversation. I'm seeking that chemistry you feel when you meet someone special, to be with someone for hours and lose track of time, who makes me feel excited whenever we're about to see each other."

I know it sounds quite soppy, but I'm playing into their emotional fantasies. Plus a lot of these women are jaded by the player/bad boy type, so are seeking someone more sensitive - initially. Obviously, this would fall flat with a woman looking for casual sex, but for women seeking relationships it seems to go down really well.

is that all your profile says?

 

[Jariel]

I like to experiment with the beta bait and switch tactic.. tell them what they think they want to hear and then amp it up from there.

Exactly what I do mate. A lot of women think they want a sweet and romantic guy, so you tell them what they want to hear. But before they can lose interest or put you in the friendzone, you escalate the sexual flirting and tension.

If you hit them with the sex talk straight away, their defenses go up, but once they've got to know a bit about you they feel more comfortable with it. I've only been trying it for the last 3-4 months, but it's been working a charm.