Playing by the rules never gets you girls

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This is half a statement and half a question, on one hand iam interested to see what you think of this (my own personal statement) , on the other hand almost every success i had with women was due to not playing by the rules and doing things that women said they hated and other men (friends usually) found counterproductive and could in no way work .

dress and smell good, be clean, well groomed ...etc yeah basically externally be on point we all get that, now personality wise its differet but almost all agree that you have to be cool, charming, approachable and someone that is confident and can hold a conversation and i agree with all that it indeed helps .

but what do i mean by not playing by the rules ? I realized few months after getting into college (Well even before that since even before college it was noticeable ) that girls find me attractive, like eye contact, always staring, finding excuses talking to me attractive, plus a lot of compliments, as a guy i couldnt rely on just sitting there looking pretty iam the man after all, so while i have been approached by some women i have approached my fair share of women, usually most guys who dont get a lot of attention play a numbers game , but i didnt my success rate (and by that i mean getting numbers and then dates, was easily 80% ) if she refused to go out i usually found out she had a bf or i needed to invest a loooooot more so i stopped purusuing .

I message a girl once if she respondes game on and i proceed with the conversation, conversation ends, two days later i message again have a long conversation with some flirting (sometimes) and wait for her to message me first or say hi/ ask to meet me, if not the next .
i dont go out of my way for girls, if she needs help and i can help her i will gladly do it as long as it doesnt waste my time .
i never approach a girl that shows no interest in me, if shes not acting like she is about to throw herself at me then to me she is not interested .
I dont fight or argue with other guys for girls, if she wants me she knows where to find me and i have made it clear iam interested, if another guy at some point shows up and she wants both, he can have her .
iam not her emotional bank or someone whos always "there" for her, iam there for my gf if youre not my girl then why treat you like one ?

A lot of guys do the opposite of that, sometimes it works but most of the time they are just being made fun of, after all if she never seemed intersted after the first couple of mesages she wont be after 10, youre just entertaining her at this point or even annoying .


Iam not player and some guys on here have far more experience than me and far more success, i tried a lot of approaches through the years and the one above feels the most natural to me, as iam laid back and cool and it helped me get the most girls .
 

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dont mix business and pleasure, women are not my job, when i go to work i give it my full attention
Actually really smart, I was fücking bad when i was your age. Looking back it's quite funny to me, but yeah smart move especially with all the crap that's going on now. Work chicks are too easy anyway, get out their and challenge yourself!
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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What rules?;)
 

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Actually really smart, I was fücking bad when i was your age. Looking back it's quite funny to me, but yeah smart move especially with all the crap that's going on now. Work chicks are too easy anyway, get out their and challenge yourself!
i have dated two co workers but usually after they shown lots of interest and it was obvious they arent dangerous at all and i kinda waited till they moved to another department so we dont always bumo into each other, but yeah if i had to choose between girls or losing my job ... my job wins
 

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I wouldn't really call that not playing by the rules, although men with severe misconceptions would perceive it as not playing by the rules. These men put women on a pedestal, when they do so they appear to devalue themselves relative to the woman, which is of course very unattractive. The "rules" they follow is nothing more than misconceptions that they're personally convinced of to a point they refuse to reconsider them, it's like religious fanatics who think their beliefs are the one and only truth.

Apart from the more intimate things they should just be treated like any other friend, we don't worship our friends, we often see them as equals. We don't try to please our friends, we make jokes on them. What is "against the rules" with women is what most guys do with friends.

I never walked on eggshells with my girlfriend. I had no filter from day 1, I occasionally make fun of things she does or says. I never bend over backwards to please her, not unless she does the same to please me.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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What rules?;)
I have a friend, idk how good looking he is but sometimes girls say he is so i assume they find him attractive, he works as a waiter and has plenty of female coworkers, while he is kinda friends with all of his coworkers he makes fun of the girls sometimes, he doesnt make an effort to get them even when its obvious they want him to, he doesnt purusue and he literally gives no sh*t about them, he even told me once how he used to yell at girls who annoyed him or just got mad at them for no reason at all .... this same friend now has a hot gf (Whom i've met) and he was invited to at least 2 girls houses , he showed me the texts, they texted him saying theyre alone, horny and asked what hes doing and if he wanna come over (girls that texted him maybe once or twice before that , so not someone he used to date or even had anything intimate with) and he's not alone i've heard similiar stories from different guys who all never really put much effort into it, and in my case that was kinda the truth as well, when i started putting in serious effort to get girls i stopped getting results ...

point is different strokes for different folks i guess, but there are indeed rules and if you have something the chicks want you can pretty much sh*t on said rules and still get more action than other average joes ... maybe you have a different experience but iam just sharing what happened with me .
 

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I have a friend, idk how good looking he is but sometimes girls say he is so i assume they find him attractive, he works as a waiter and has plenty of female coworkers, while he is kinda friends with all of his coworkers he makes fun of the girls sometimes, he doesnt make an effort to get them even when its obvious they want him to, he doesnt purusue and he literally gives no sh*t about them, he even told me once how he used to yell at girls who annoyed him or just got mad at them for no reason at all .... this same friend now has a hot gf (Whom i've met) and he was invited to at least 2 girls houses , he showed me the texts, they texted him saying theyre alone, horny and asked what hes doing and if he wanna come over (girls that texted him maybe once or twice before that , so not someone he used to date or even had anything intimate with) and he's not alone i've heard similiar stories from different guys who all never really put much effort into it, and in my case that was kinda the truth as well, when i started putting in serious effort to get girls i stopped getting results ...

point is different strokes for different folks i guess, but there are indeed rules and if you have something the chicks want you can pretty much sh*t on said rules and still get more action than other average joes ... maybe you have a different experience but iam just sharing what happened with me .
It's not rules per se.

It's the frame/mindset/operating values that makes the difference.

The type of frame will affect rules/methods on how you get women or anything else for that matter.
 

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I have a friend, idk how good looking he is but sometimes girls say he is so i assume they find him attractive, he works as a waiter and has plenty of female coworkers, while he is kinda friends with all of his coworkers he makes fun of the girls sometimes, he doesnt make an effort to get them even when its obvious they want him to, he doesnt purusue and he literally gives no sh*t about them, he even told me once how he used to yell at girls who annoyed him or just got mad at them for no reason at all .... this same friend now has a hot gf (Whom i've met) and he was invited to at least 2 girls houses , he showed me the texts, they texted him saying theyre alone, horny and asked what hes doing and if he wanna come over (girls that texted him maybe once or twice before that , so not someone he used to date or even had anything intimate with) and he's not alone i've heard similiar stories from different guys who all never really put much effort into it, and in my case that was kinda the truth as well, when i started putting in serious effort to get girls i stopped getting results ...

point is different strokes for different folks i guess, but there are indeed rules and if you have something the chicks want you can pretty much sh*t on said rules and still get more action than other average joes ... maybe you have a different experience but iam just sharing what happened with me .
IDGAF works because women like power, and If you don't give women your power, it automatically makes you attractive. I've always got the best results doing NOTHING.

What it boils down to...If you want to repel women, you focus on getting them. If you want to attract them, you focus on other stuff.

It's all about personal power management.

Women we're never designed as the main event, us men are. Feminism has downplayed this historical FACT.

Your focus, should be your life. What kind of awesome sh!t, are you going to do?:p
 
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