Pharma CEO assasinated!!

[The Duke]

The head of United Healthcare Group, Andrew Witty, the parent company of United Healthcare, wrote that he understands “people’s frustrations” with the American health care system.

“No one would design a system like the one we have. And no one did. It’s a patchwork built over decades. Our mission is to help make it work better,”

Who here believes his mission was to make it work better? And for whom? The people, or the United HealthCare executives?

Him(made 23.5M last year) and Brian Thompson have been at it for years, at the top of the food chain, yet haven't done a damn thing to alleviate people's frustrations. United Healthcare has spent about 50 million in the last 10years lobbying Congress. Why do you suppose they gave so much to lobbyists that tried to persuade Congress to act in their favor? Why not put that 50 million towards claim payouts? Ohh yeah because Brian and Andrew would have been left out in the cold and missed out in millions of compensation. The stock price wouldn't have went from $200 a share to over $500 a share in 4yrs with out those at the the top maximizing income and minimizing expenses. Don't need an economics degree to understand that concept. But I'm sure one with a law degree could twist it up for us.

If you want the answers you follow the money. Its always been that way. Live by the sword, die by the sword. I guess it was Brian's time.

 

[The Duke]

That sounds like three separate issues though, even if they might be related in this case. There's how much money corporate CEOs make, there's the healthcare issue, and then there's the issue of thinking you have the right to end another person's life.

So I ride upon you in the desert where you laid for several days, lips dry and blistered, skin burned....you are about to die from dehydration and I have 2 canteens full of water, should I share? Do I not have some responsibility because I was blessed with the wealth of extra water that could keep you alive? Ultimately I could end your life by depriving you of water. Or is it 3 separate issues?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

If you want the answers you follow the money. Its always been that way. Live by the sword, die by the sword. I guess it was Brian's time.

Even one of America's most popular presidents agrees:

So I ride upon you in the desert where you laid for several days, lips dry and blistered, skin burned....you are about to die from dehydration and I have 2 canteens full of water, should I share? Do I not have some responsibility because I was blessed with the wealth of extra water that could keep you alive? Ultimately I could end your life by depriving you of water. Or is it 3 separate issues?

 

[BillyPilgrim]

User name checks out ^

 

[Bokanovsky]

He smiled into security cameras.
If you read into him, you'll find that his mother was a victim of this health insurance. This CEO was directly involved in the constantly changing terms and conditions regarding coverage that his ailing mother suffered needlessly to fill the pockets of the board of directors and stockholders.

I don't know about that. By all accounts, this guy's family is very wealthy. If his mother was suffering, I doubt it had anything to do with insurance coverage. From what I've read, the guy lost the plot because of his own health issues which also likely had nothing to do with insurance. Apparently, he was born with a spine defect that causes him to experience excruciating pain. It either couldn't be treated or the doctors didn't do a good job.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I don't know about that. By all accounts, this guy's family is very wealthy. If his mother was suffering, I doubt it had anything to do with insurance coverage. From what I've read, the guy lost the plot because of his own health issues which also likely had nothing to do with insurance. Apparently, he was born with a spine defect that causes him to experience excruciating pain. It either couldn't be treated or the doctors didn't do a good job.

Dude has a ripped physique for having debilitating, excruciating back pain, just sayin'

 

[Bokanovsky]

Dude has a ripped physique for having debilitating, excruciating back pain, just sayin'

FYI

https://apnews.com/article/luigi-ma...ental-health-35086d2e01089f53db7b95e7b6c683e4

 

[Gamisch]

I think people should be able to make however much they can make. If you can make $10 million a year, more power to you.

Your own business or a business that was started from zero? Go ahead. Government funded/ obligated business? 1 mil per year max. I'd even say 200k max. Isn't 200 k enough to live a comfortable life? When you wanna get ahead and earn more you can use your Government ceo experience to level up. But Government-obliged functions shouldn't be businesses to begin with!

I am not from the US ,but oh lord I felt the public's outrage inmy heart and soul.

If we stand aside and slowly die, we might as well die for a ccause. That's how the entire map was created; through blood and balls from those willing to either conquer or defend.

 

[Gamisch]

This is how deep the pain goes. People (rightfully so) view Luigi as a hero.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Your own business or a business that was started from zero? Go ahead. Government funded/ obligated business? 1 mil per year max. I'd even say 200k max. Isn't 200 k enough to live a comfortable life? When you wanna get ahead and earn more you can use your Government ceo experience to level up. But Government-obliged functions shouldn't be businesses to begin with!

I am not from the US ,but oh lord I felt the public's outrage inmy heart and soul.

If we stand aside and slowly die, we might as well die for a ccause. That's how the entire map was created; through blood and balls from those willing to either conquer or defend.

Blaming the CEO of a health insurance company oversimplifies a deeply complex issue. Healthcare is broken due to misaligned incentives, high premiums for small business owners, denials, rising pharmaceutical costs, and more. Healthcare also isn’t free, and the same way you likely wouldn’t work for free, neither would others in our healthcare system. Real change requires deep, conceptual reforms, not cosmetic fixes. What’s even more troubling is the celebration of a man’s death, as while he was the CEO, this wasn’t his company, and CEOs are beholden to shareholders, boards, and investors, meaning the issues at hand span well beyond the CEO…

The real obstacle is the paralysis of the political system, driven by issues like gerrymandering, primaries, media that reinforces its audience’s biases, and social media users who spread false information without skepticism. Until these factors change, progress will remain out of reach, and people will continue focusing on blame instead of solutions.

In Canada, more than 70% of healthcare spending is publicly funded through general tax revenues, with provinces and territories covering 78% of the cost while the federal government covers the rest. Essentially, healthcare is 'free' in the same way public education is, and in 2022, the system spent an average of about $8,563 per Canadian on healthcare. There can still be out-of-pocket costs for things like prescription drugs, dental care, and certain medical devices, depending on the province but your employer usually covers those.

 

[Gamisch]

Blaming the CEO of a health insurance company oversimplifies a deeply complex issue. Healthcare is broken due to misaligned incentives, high premiums for small business owners, denials, rising pharmaceutical costs, and more. Healthcare also isn’t free, and the same way you likely wouldn’t work for free, neither would others in our healthcare system. Real change requires deep, conceptual reforms, not cosmetic fixes. What’s even more troubling is the celebration of a man’s death, as while he was the CEO, this wasn’t his company, and CEOs are beholden to shareholders, boards, and investors, meaning the issues at hand span well beyond the CEO…

The real obstacle is the paralysis of the political system, driven by issues like gerrymandering, primaries, media that reinforces its audience’s biases, and social media users who spread false information without skepticism. Until these factors change, progress will remain out of reach, and people will continue focusing on blame instead of solutions.

In Canada, more than 70% of healthcare spending is publicly funded through general tax revenues, with provinces and territories covering 78% of the cost while the federal government covers the rest. Essentially, healthcare is 'free' in the same way public education is, and in 2022, the system spent an average of about $8,563 per Canadian on healthcare. There can still be out-of-pocket costs for things like prescription drugs, dental care, and certain medical devices, depending on the province but your employer usually covers those.

Let me give you a normal answer. My initial response said FREE LUIGI, but, imma admit that's kinda dumb and childish.

This murder was ( to quote UFC fighter Masvidal);
Period. I appreciate your attemp at humanising Brian, but brian died for the greater good. His super necessary death unleashed an unstoppable motion , and believe me: sooner or later you'll understand.

Every fiber in my body feels like this was justified. And I don't necessarily condone violence IF IF IF a conversation is possible. But is wasn't.

We need to get rid of all structures like US healthcare. And yes I give a fucgk because its a matter of time before Blackrock buys Europe as well.

By the way nobody wants free this or that. But neither do we want to go bankrupt due to a physical issue. In my country there is no private healthcare by the way. Plastic surgery for aesthetics and perhaps elderly care is the only thing that is a personal choice, any other form of healthcare is government funded . Similar to Canada and every somewhat normal functioning country. Additional medicine must be paid out of pocket and even then tons of people's biggest financial burden remains healthcare.

You guys in the US of A are seriously hundreds of miles away from a decent functioning system and country and its EMBARRASSING.

-healthcare
-gun laws
-Blackrock
-housing
-political system and lack of parties
- jury system
- lobby from companies and funding politics
-even pitbull lobby even though people get eaten alive every day
-what do I forget?

Y'all got many many shyte to clean, and it's matter of time before the next CEO got got. iirc there are several wanted posters out there? If anything Luigi started a movement and all the way in Europe its supported!

 

[Clockwerk50]

Let me give you a normal answer. My initial response said FREE LUIGI, but, imma admit that's kinda dumb and childish.

This murder was ( to quote UFC fighter Masvidal); View attachment 13650
Period. I appreciate your attemp at humanising Brian, but brian died for the greater good. His super necessary death unleashed an unstoppable motion , and believe me: sooner or later you'll understand.

Every fiber in my body feels like this was justified. And I don't necessarily condone violence IF IF IF a conversation is possible. But is wasn't.

We need to get rid of all structures like US healthcare. And yes I give a fucgk because its a matter of time before Blackrock buys Europe as well.

By the way nobody wants free this or that. But neither do we want to go bankrupt due to a physical issue. In my country there is no private healthcare by the way. Plastic surgery for aesthetics and perhaps elderly care is the only thing that is a personal choice, any other form of healthcare is government funded . Similar to Canada and every somewhat normal functioning country. Additional medicine must be paid out of pocket and even then tons of people's biggest financial burden remains healthcare.

You guys in the US of A are seriously hundreds of miles away from a decent functioning system and country and its EMBARRASSING.

-healthcare
-gun laws
-Blackrock
-housing
-political system and lack of parties
- jury system
- lobby from companies and funding politics
-even pitbull lobby even though people get eaten alive every day
-what do I forget?

Y'all got many many shyte to clean, and it's matter of time before the next CEO got got. iirc there are several wanted posters out there? If anything Luigi started a movement and all the way in Europe its supported!

I understand that you advocate for a healthcare system where the government covers most or all healthcare expenses, and that you are anti-capitalism, with the idea that big corporations and financial institutions control much of the world, including healthcare, and need to be dismantled for true progress. I agree with you on that—the power of big corporations and investors in shaping healthcare and society at large is a major problem.

However, I don’t believe that violent actions will bring about meaningful societal change. As I mentioned in my previous posts, it’s not just about CEOs—it’s about the shareholders, boards, and investors who have the real power. Taking out a CEO might provide a temporary sense of satisfaction, but all it does is create a more heavily guarded, insulated group of future CEOs. It’s the system itself that needs to change, not just one individual. Real reform requires addressing the deeper structures at play, not reacting to individual tragedies.

To illustrate my point, one of my customers manufactures bulletproof cars, and he told me that his biggest clients are politicians in the U.S. and drug lords in Mexico. As you can imagine, his customers keep coming back after murders or new elections because the system stays the same. Whether it’s politicians or corporate leaders, the core issues remain unless we address the entire structure.

Again, I believe real change comes through systemic reforms, not through violence or the targeting of individuals. You have to be sneaky with it, they will shut down any revolutionary movement quick since they are more powerful than the average Joe.

 

[GuitarSlayer]

I get a lotta kumbaja vibes from this.

Violence has always been a way to force people to change things. I do NOT condone Violence, but I do think if you suppress people, they'll gonna revolt.

Before ever knowing who dude was I was 99% sure it had to do something with being a victim directly or indirectly.

We all are here typing because our predecessors used and survived violence. Its deeply ingrained in our system. That's why he gets so much sympathy : more and more people cam relate to this kinda behaviour. The only way to stop this is by giving people a fair chance to build something.

So basically this murder needed to happen to set an example. Yes that may sound "sick" to a person living in a "peaceful bubble ". You'll see more and more of this. In poor regions like Africa and South America ( where my roots are) this is completely normal tbh. Suppress people long enough and they will act on behalf of themselves or as in this case on behalf of their loved ones.

In my home country the rich will live in compounds, sheltered from the "peasants " who are constantly trying to invade, like a zombie apocalyptic movie. The discrepancy between the haves and the have-nots is getting out of hand and eventually NATURE will find ways to even the score. May sound harsh, but it better be a warning to people who believe they are safe inside their ivory towers ; they are never really safe.

The fact that most people say that this killer guy looks like a chad it shows how retarded and low self-worth and dignity people have become due to social media and constant subliminal indoctrination.

He is an above average in looks, but nothing special. Or, it also shows that most people are ugly ****s that try to project their own insecurities onto the rest.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I understand that you advocate for a healthcare system where the government covers most or all healthcare expenses, and that you are anti-capitalism, with the idea that big corporations and financial institutions control much of the world, including healthcare, and need to be dismantled for true progress. I agree with you on that—the power of big corporations and investors in shaping healthcare and society at large is a major problem.

However, I don’t believe that violent actions will bring about meaningful societal change. As I mentioned in my previous posts, it’s not just about CEOs—it’s about the shareholders, boards, and investors who have the real power. Taking out a CEO might provide a temporary sense of satisfaction, but all it does is create a more heavily guarded, insulated group of future CEOs. It’s the system itself that needs to change, not just one individual. Real reform requires addressing the deeper structures at play, not reacting to individual tragedies.

To illustrate my point, one of my customers manufactures bulletproof cars, and he told me that his biggest clients are politicians in the U.S. and drug lords in Mexico. As you can imagine, his customers keep coming back after murders or new elections because the system stays the same. Whether it’s politicians or corporate leaders, the core issues remain unless we address the entire structure.

Again, I believe real change comes through systemic reforms, not through violence or the targeting of individuals. You have to be sneaky with it, they will shut down any revolutionary movement quick since they are more powerful than the average Joe.

The dying out of the Boomer generation will take care of much of this imo.

 

[Clockwerk50]

The fact that most people say that this killer guy looks like a chad it shows how retarded and low self-worth and dignity people have become due to social media and constant subliminal indoctrination.

He is an above average in looks, but nothing special. Or, it also shows that most people are ugly ****s that try to project their own insecurities onto the rest.

To elaborate on what you wrote, one of the four masculine archetypes is the King. A man who embodies the King exudes dignity, grace, and leadership, balancing his commitment to others with the ability to both serve and be served. He would also ins loyalty and respect through clear guidance and decision-making, creating order and allowing objectives to be achieved.

However, too many of these qualities can lead to the Tyrant, a shadow of the King. The Tyrant is driven by narcissism, sees power as finite, and lashes out with abuse to protect his fragile authority, often exploiting others for personal gain.

On the other hand, lacking King-like qualities results in the Weakling, a passive shadow. The Weakling relinquishes control, becomes insecure, and struggles with decision-making, often using manipulation and control to mask his deep fears and inadequacies.

So, all these people you mention—who are insecure, have low self-worth, still let their mother or father make decisions for them, or cater to their boss’s or wife’s every whim—would fall into the Weakling category.

There are some Kings in here, but also some Tyrants and Weaklings as well.