Passport "bro"..i may have messed up

[DreamAgain]

1.) She is pretty af...to me
2.) She is obsessed with me
3.) First guy to show her the world
4.) She is thin
5.) Not a single mother ( they dont play that **** in that nation).
6.) She does have serious issues. She aint perfect but 80% of her is.

To be honest I would not be able to lock this down in the USA in my late 30s. Im just keeping it real. I can smash attractive American girls but they are too rebellious for me.

I was never bad with women but most of the women in my age group are single mothers. If they are not single mothers then they are nuts.

This chick was 24 when i met her. I was like 36. Unless you are rich you aint getting a childless, semi submissive child free chick at 36.

My question is why are single men not going overseas?

I have strongly considered going overseas, and will do so if in the next few years I cannot find the right woman stateside.

I am going to be 33 next year and my time is ticking.

I would like to try out a few more cities in the US, try to find a girl in the 24-28 range that is second generation from another country, and that I can build a life with.

I want to stay in the states for now because my earning potential is simply much higher, a stable life for the kids is much more assured, I think the future is just brighter there than any other place at the moment.

If this fails though, I will in the meantime also work on building a business/income online and then pulling the plug and going overseas. In the meantime work on my foreign language skills too.

 

[Pandora]

I have strongly considered going overseas, and will do so if in the next few years I cannot find the right woman stateside.

I am going to be 33 next year and my time is ticking.

I would like to try out a few more cities in the US, try to find a girl in the 24-28 range that is second generation from another country, and that I can build a life with.

I want to stay in the states for now because my earning potential is simply much higher, a stable life for the kids is much more assured, I think the future is just brighter there than any other place at the moment.

If this fails though, I will in the meantime also work on building a business/income online and then pulling the plug and going overseas. In the meantime work on my foreign language skills too.

This sounds like a really good plan. I wish I had that mindset when I was 33. Check out that Tandem app too. It has native speakers on there for just about any language.

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

Exactly! I was kind of happy when they denied her K1 visa application. I was so relieved. Right now she is submissive and pleasant. I knew that if she got to the USA it was only a matter of time for her to change.

She told me that at the Visa interview they were already giving her pamphlet and materials about domestic violence and calling the police etc. She was shocked.

Why are you allowing her to even try to get a VISA if you are so concerned?

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

I met her on a language learning app. I met another woman on this app and went to go visit them. No regrets. Good experiences. That could have been a thing but I didnt want to cheat.

Guys have no idea the world they are missing if they dont dip in the international market. Its like fish in barrel.

I worked as a lab tech/ supervisor for years now I do fulltime ems. So they are not high paying jobs and I cant do them online.

I will have to figure something out.

I agree. Just get the option to go to a 3rd country, do not bring her here. if you have to come to the US, come by yourself for 2-4 months, make money, do your thing and then go back to whichever country you chose. It's not the most perfect situation so it calls for imperfect solutions. It is what it is.

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

American chicks will be obsolete in the next 10 yrs. They will be trying to make laws like the Norweigian women ( blocking Thai women).

Holy ****! I did not hear about the Norwegian situation! Yeah, lol, I could definitely see that happening here...

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

Pandora, you are making a mistake here.

There are too many variables that can go wrong, the culture shock will be huge for her.

How good is her knowledge of the english language, what marketable skills does she have, do you intend for her to be a stay at home wife?

Many cases like this of women being brought back end up in divorce, not necessarily because of anything you did wrong, but it is too much of a shock to the system for the weaker sex.

The winning formula is to find a second generation american girl who still has roots to her homeland, I hope you heed my message well. Who is integrated into society, who can be a team player financially, but yet still has some connection to traditional values from her parents.

This is probably the second best option but the problem is that here you are dealing with a WAY tinier dating market. it could take years to find someone who fits that criteria...

To your point, when a foreign woman comes here, she will be shocked by the fact that she will probably not be able to find other moms to hang with that she can relate to. Even if she finds other moms over time, they will likely be lonely and isolated in hostile territory so to speak. And the moms she finds will likely bi(t)ch and moan non-stop about their husbands which will over time trickle into said foreign woman's mentality...

Whenever I go to large parks, it's mostly post wall chicks with their dogs and a small amount of moms. The moms with carriages are like aliens in hostile territory. It must be lonely being a stay at home mom in the US compared to the supportive family cultures of other countries...

 

[DreamAgain]

This is probably the second best option but the problem is that here you are dealing with a WAY tinier dating market. it could take years to find someone who fits that criteria...

To your point, when a foreign woman comes here, she will be shocked by the fact that she will probably not be able to find other moms to hang with that she can relate to. Even if she finds other moms over time, they will likely be lonely and isolated in hostile territory so to speak. And the moms she finds will likely bi(t)ch and moan non-stop about their husbands which will over time trickle into said foreign woman's mentality...

Whenever I go to large parks, it's mostly post wall chicks with their dogs and a small amount of moms. The moms with carriages are like aliens in hostile territory. It must be lonely being a stay at home mom in the US compared to the supportive family cultures of other countries...

100% correct.

 

[DreamAgain]

This is probably the second best option but the problem is that here you are dealing with a WAY tinier dating market. it could take years to find someone who fits that criteria...

To your point, when a foreign woman comes here, she will be shocked by the fact that she will probably not be able to find other moms to hang with that she can relate to. Even if she finds other moms over time, they will likely be lonely and isolated in hostile territory so to speak. And the moms she finds will likely bi(t)ch and moan non-stop about their husbands which will over time trickle into said foreign woman's mentality...

Whenever I go to large parks, it's mostly post wall chicks with their dogs and a small amount of moms. The moms with carriages are like aliens in hostile territory. It must be lonely being a stay at home mom in the US compared to the supportive family cultures of other countries...

She will have to be more self reliant. To have some hobbies, to make new friends, all while having a language barrier that will make it very difficult to integrate.

I know such families. I am a children of immigrants myself. I was lucky that my parents assimilated pretty well, but not flawlessly. My mother certainly protested a lot and yearned to go back "home" many times. There were many fiery arguments about this topic, I sadly remember them vividly as a child.

 

[CornbreadFed]

( i really didnt want her to come anyway).

 

[Pandora]

Yeh part of me did not want her to come to the USA because of the horrible family court laws. I also did not want her to be influence by the gynocentric, feminist, misandrist, degenerate culture of the USA. My African brothers warned me well. They said if you bring a village girl to the USA you better watch out. They will change.

" I want half Edde!"

 

[Pandora]

I agree. Just get the option to go to a 3rd country, do not bring her here. if you have to come to the US, come by yourself for 2-4 months, make money, do your thing and then go back to whichever country you chose. It's not the most perfect situation so it calls for imperfect solutions. It is what it is.

Yes bro! This is great advice and it is what I am planning. It really is an imperfect situation. The worst part of it being that I will not see my future child everyday. Coach Greg often states that there are men in the USA that do even see their children everyday due to child custody laws. Some men hardly get to see their children at all. So he advocates going overseas too.

The reason I did the K1 thing is because I gave her father my word. He really wanted her to have the US passport. Despite having a horrible relationship with her he really loves her.

 

[plumber]

OP, you get a huge SMV boost being from First World Place that is known for women's rights when interacting with some other cultures, just as you have found. The idea that the women are different is only an education thing. They can also learn and be taught to be just like the women that you don't like or do not like you.

If you bring her to the west, find a small town and be in that place. Avoid large liberal city. Make sure she has something to do as a member of your world. Don't have her go find her own thing such as a job or other.... Just as you see her as hot, so do the other guys. These are the same guys that you don't like competing with that started the whole looking in other country thing.

If you stay in her place/country be active and get into something that give YOU a place in that area. Your respect for being a foreigner will get less over time and your dream will get eaten by local guys. Set yourself up as a king and you will do well and she will follow you; probably.

Always remember that dual mate strategy is real.

 

[Ricky]

Holy ****! I did not hear about the Norwegian situation! Yeah, lol, I could definitely see that happening here...

I didn't know about this. My wife is Thai.. she was good until she wasn't.. sometimes well i will leave it for you to find out..

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

I didn't know about this. My wife is Thai.. she was good until she wasn't.. sometimes well i will leave it for you to find out..

My concern with Thai women is that as an American mid-westerner (which a lot of guys interested in locking down Thai women are), it's not a good match.

This is my theory: Non-sophisticated cultures do not do well with sophisticated cultures. American culture is not very sophisticated. This is not a critique on American culture per say.

I feel like as a man, it helps to come from a more sophisticated culture than the woman if your goal is to lock her down. The reason is because the culture is like half the fulfillment.

The culture is what provides the social support and entertainment and meaning. If she comes from some sophisticated european or south american culture, it is not enough to just have stronger currency. She will rarely respect that. She will be bored and quickly find an excuse to move on.

A better match for the average american is someone from Dominican Republic, Central America, Puerto Rico. From Asia, maybe the bougie Phillipinas (but those are dangerous and can be extremely annoying helicopter mom types). I know one of one good match: an American guy and a chick that was a refugee from war town part of middle east, she could not go back. Her culture was a simple desert culture.

 

[The Duke]

My concern with Thai women is that as an American mid-westerner (which a lot of guys interested in locking down Thai women are), it's not a good match.

This is my theory: Non-sophisticated cultures do not do well with sophisticated cultures. American culture is not very sophisticated. This is not a critique on American culture per say.

I feel like as a man, it helps to come from a more sophisticated culture than the woman if your goal is to lock her down. The reason is because the culture is like half the fulfillment.

The culture is what provides the social support and entertainment and meaning. If she comes from some sophisticated european or south american culture, it is not enough to just have stronger currency. She will rarely respect that. She will be bored and quickly find an excuse to move on.

A better match for the average american is someone from Dominican Republic, Central America, Puerto Rico. From Asia, maybe the bougie Phillipinas (but those are dangerous and can be extremely annoying helicopter mom types). I know one of one good match: an American guy and a chick that was a refugee from war town part of middle east, she could not go back. Her culture was a simple desert culture.

What makes a culture sophisticated? Kings, queens, tea sippers, wine connoisseurs, weird art museums, over priced woke universities for the elite?

You ain't never witnessed 'Merican redneck culture have ya????....ain't nothing better than Bubba outside his double wide grilling Walmart hotdogs, putting away Keystone Light by the case, shooting guns at the empties, while his mouthy baby momma yells at the 5 kids from 3 daddy's running around in diapers while sitting in her plastic pool trying to get some sun on her jelly rolls!

 

[The Duke]

You're just trying to make everyone jealous here.

You're invited to the next party I throw down! Git ya sum of that.

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

What makes a culture sophisticated? Kings, queens, tea sippers, wine connoisseurs, weird art museums, over priced woke universities for the elite?

You ain't never witnessed 'Merican redneck culture have ya????....ain't nothing better than Bubba outside his double wide grilling Walmart hotdogs, putting away Keystone Light by the case, shooting guns at the empties, while his mouthy baby momma yells at the 5 kids from 3 daddy's running around in diapers while sitting in her plastic pool trying to get some sun on her jelly rolls!

Hahaha,

Woke universities are not as prevalent outside of the US by the way.

But yeah, this is my point. I'm not necessarily judging the US culture. I myself have redneck moments and even work with my hands.

However, in my experience, women who speak 3-4 languages, university educated, hot and feminine are not going to go for the average american guy who just can't provide the same level of cultural stimulation that she she is used to. Not only that but the culture here can't. Very few places will stimulate the average european which is why it usually is not the best idea to bring them here. And furthermore, it is better to go for girls where there will be a more cultural match. American men do well with cultures that are not too sophisticated such as central America, Honduras, Guyana, Salvador, Carribean Islands or some parts of Asia.

But if they absolutely must insist on european types then just go for more modest looking chicks who will be more humble.

I've known guys to bring eastern european women back and it always ends in sh1t. The guy is just deceiving himself. It's the classic "mail order bride" scenario that I'm trying to help guys avoid.

The reason fat russian guys can hold down hotter russian women for instance and you see this in other cultures is because they come from the same background and they understand eachother. The fat russian guys are usually pretty masculine too. Also, there are just more hot women in general over there.