Orbiter/"guy friends"=never willing to commit

[EveryPostHere]

Obvious rule of thumb but here goes. The type of woman who has lots of "guy friends" that won't leave her alone, and take her to "hang out" constantly are not relationship material and never will be.

First off they aren't very popular with other females, and always say things like "I have guy friends because they're easier to deal with" or "They understand me better" this is only true if they're a tommy boy. Otherwise it's an indicator of them being a toxic s**t starter who can't keep a female friendship because they have a very bi*chy vindictive personality.

They obviously use these guys for attention, validation, and ego boost. They could care less about these desperate dudes who stick around with the vague hope they'll eventually get to fvck them. These are the types of women who have been ruined by male attention, and because of this all men are expendable to them. Therefore they aren't able to commit to anyone, and will always continue looking for d**k no matter who they're with.

If a female has a guy friend who is just that A FRIEND, someone who legitimately sees her as that, doesn't pander to her ego, or wants to fvck her, then that's an exception. But this is pretty much 1% of the guy friends out there, and there has to be some circumstance to it like the girl knowing the dude since childhood or working with him.

Rock on :rockon:

 

[Suspens]

hoes gonna hoe.

Sure they are just friends, orbiters, but they DO have a rod between their legs. That's something to worry about.

 

[EveryPostHere]

hoes gonna hoe.

Sure they are just friends, orbiters, but they DO have a rod between their legs. That's something to worry about.

True. Usually these women with "guy friend" orbiters will have a flock of ones they'll never fvck that have no game what so ever, and these are the ones who they keep that stick around for years. Then they'll befriend some for just a few months that are just as shallow as they are, and they become fvck buddies.

 

[jurry]

Nope no exceptions, all guy friends must be systematically purged via a lengthy boundary talk that will entail how she should behave during all future interactions with the male sex other than you, since she has no idea what exclusivity or a relationship means.

This searing scrutinization of her social life will show her your true alpha status, since what man could be so confident as to force her to change her behavior and cut off all ties with the opposite sex?! You are so secure in your status and other options that you will go through mind-boggling analysis and discussion to reduce all potential risks to losing her.. Yes thats right, thats what a DJ does.

/sarcasm

On a serious not.. any MAN who makes a thread whining about the lack of WOMEN committing(?!) just screams out beta of the highest caliber. What the fvck do you want her to commit for, christ.

 

[EveryPostHere]

Nope no exceptions, all guy friends must be systematically purged via a lengthy boundary talk that will entail how she should behave during all future interactions with the male sex other than you, since she has no idea what exclusivity or a relationship means.

This searing scrutinization of her social life will show her your true alpha status, since what man could be so confident as to force her to change her behavior and cut off all ties with the opposite sex?! You are so secure in your status and other options that you will go through mind-boggling analysis and discussion to reduce all potential risks to losing her.. Yes thats right, thats what a DJ does.

/sarcasm

On a serious not.. any MAN who makes a thread whining about the lack of WOMEN committing(?!) just screams out beta of the highest caliber. What the fvck do you want her to commit for, christ.

I'm not making this about any one woman, it's just a true generalization. I don't want anything to do with those wh0res. Any MAN who has to whine on a thread with actual advice and not the typical "PUMP N DUMP" social media related BS this site is full of these days screams of insecurities.

All you do is b**ch whenever someone actually posts something different.

 

[jurry]

How am I whining or *****ing? I am questioning your integrity as someone giving advice on a mens dating forum. What man of value honestly says "ah man these girls are such sluts they'll never want to settle down and commit"?? Who cares about their orbiters? Fvck them and enjoy them, and 9 times out of 10 they'll be coming back for more and want to settle down with you, and then you're the one not committing.

Whats more important, a man learning how to be the one women want, or trying to shield men from some unidentifiable personality type you created on the fly?

 

[jurry]

But she has no idea what exclusivity or commitment means according to you danger. She has been brought up in this broken feminized dystopia and needs you to guide her through every action! But wait your filters are so good that you already have a girl who does what you want? So confusing!

I dont care who men commit to, I just strongly question the credentials of a man who takes time out of his day to bemoan how "sluts wont commit". Ok awesome, so fvck them and find a different girl to be your gf. How is this a problem? More likely they just dont want to commit to YOU.

 

[jurry]

Yes i demand men commit to sluts, i demand that she keep her male friends. Ahh the bullshît youll come up with to keep an argument going.. Hilarious!

Youre right he didnt say slvt, that changes everything so much. He didnt say not to commit to these girls, he said THEY wont commit. This implies he is pursuing them in hopes of exclusivity, and cant get it.

 

[EveryPostHere]

Yes i demand men commit to sluts, i demand that she keep her male friends. Ahh the bullshît youll come up with to keep an argument going.. Hilarious!

Youre right he didnt say slvt, that changes everything so much. He didnt say not to commit to these girls, he said THEY wont commit. This implies he is pursuing them in hopes of exclusivity, and cant get it.

You don't pay attention to anything you don't want to read do you? I said in my first response to you that I don't want anything to do with these types. From that I thought it was made pretty clear that I'm not pursing them. In the past when I was like 16 and didn't know any better I did try getting with a couple like that, but pretty much everyone here has chased a bad type or two before getting the knowledge and info they needed to become a DJ.

If THEY won't commit why the fvck should a man??? Because feminism will excuse all of the females wrong doings? Meanwhile the man is shamed for everything?

 

[jurry]

We've all been burned by women before and likely will be burned again, that is the nature of the beast. The important part is learning from your experience, not trying to blame the girl for not being interested.. Or trying to conclude that all the girls who do a certain thing are going to behave in a predetermined matter.

Ok it didnt work out for you in those instances, does that mean that girl WILL NOT commit? No, it means her attraction level was not high enough. News flash, many many women will not be attracted to you. That is reality, you cant take it personal.

What is important is learning how to be attractive to women, how to NOT be that orbiter validating her and getting burned. It is not about shaming anyone, it is about learning and growing instead of blaming.

 

[BrainDamage92]

1 % of this kind are decent. 1 in a 100 or smth.

The rest are poorly developed personalities, so they go on looks and the male attention that comes with it only. They go as far as thinking that men give them attention couse they have nice personalities. Deep down insde they know men want them for sex and nothing more, couse even keeping a conversation with them feels stupid, so they are unhappy.

This also comes from the fact that even other wome ncant stand them.

But they just cant realise if they try to grow and develop that would change. Couse living on looks only is very easy. And very sad.

Run like hell dont even consider a one night stand, they fall in love with every man they sleep with and will becoe clingy and needy in no time.

Fidelity with them is a myth mostly.

Run.

 

[jurry]

He is saying they will not commit, based on what information? What happened when he tried to get these girls when he was 16?

What information of value can we take away from this kind of absurd generalization? Dont date girls with male orbiters? Pff ok enjoy that.

 

[jurry]

Yes you can stick with the girls who have no interest from the opposite sex, have fun. No competition makes it easy eh danger?

 

[jurry]

Lol @ at you and social sucking each other off over this..

Look this isnt difficult, women love attention. A hot social woman is going to have orbiters. Why do I, as a man of value, give any amount of fvcks over this? Let them continue to validate her, we all know she isnt interested in them. Thats their problem, not mine. She is still a woman, she still wants to commit to an alpha man. That is her biology. It isnt her fault that those men are not alpha.

BE that man. Stop whining thread after thread about how evil and slutty women are and how lifes just not fair because of social media and feminism and all the other pathetic horseshît on here. Grow a set of balls and ask her out, and if she says no cool thats fvcking life. Theres a million more after her.

 

[jurry]

You see a girl on the street. You go up to her start chatting, grab her number. You guys go on a couple dates her interest level is high.

What the fvck do orbiters have anything to do with this scenario? Its totally irrelevant nonsense.

If somewhere down the road you found out she has all these other guys in the picture - again almost no chance of this being the case if she has high interest in you - then yea you get rid of her in that exceedingly rare instance (assuming you wanted a relationship).

I find it extremely unlikely the OP would make a thread to warn against this impossibly low percentage scenario arising. Whats more likely - as given away by the very title of the thread - is that he has been burned by girls who he now sees on social media as having lots of guy friends and is using this as justification for why he couldnt get them to commit (as he puts it), and hence why we should all just not even bother.

 

[jurry]

I agree, so what is your point in bringing it up?

Because that is what dating is. The "warning" of this thread has no relevance to it.


I posit it is not a rare occurrence at all. Given the number of "you're insecure and trying to control her" responses, it seems reasonable this is actually a very common occurrence. Even many of the anti-overt boundary folks say that she will keep her male "friends" around.

Orbiters arent a friend, they are men trying to get with her in a beta fashion that she is not interested in romantically, so she will get rid of these (probably not explicitly but just stop responding to them) when she finds the alpha she wants.

And even if this WAS a rare case, then why are you so up in arms about having the overt discussion when she requests exclusivity?

Because it is so rare and bizarre, the probability of it even needing to be addressed raises the question of whether you are just trying to stop her from talking to them, because she will do this on her own when she finds the man she wants. Pretty basic stuff.

So you disagree with the premise of the thread on the basis that women are not keeping orbiters around, "friend" or otherwise. I think nearly the entire board will disagree with you on how often women keep "male friends" around.

I doubt it, only a few of you seem to be so utterly obsessed with trying to control every interaction a girl has with the opposite sex.

 

[EveryPostHere]

How many times do I have to repeat the same thing to get through to you? It's like talking to a child. You won't listen to me or Danger (thanks for the backup) explaining what I meant to achieve with this thread.

Warning against that "low percentage" you speak of Jurry, I make posts pretty damn often about men these days not going out and chasing women in person.

What you speak of with just up and asking out a woman is bulls**t. NO attention seeking modern woman is going to drop all of her orbiters just because some guy actually had the balls to ask them out in person. You talk about us being "utterly obsessed with trying to control every interaction a girl has with the opposite sex" well what the hell is a woman dropping all validation/ego boost material just because the mighty Jurry asked her out then?

Yeah it is easy to get a date, but cold ask outs like what you speak of isn't always the best thing, and the true DJ's of this site would agree. It's easy to get a date, but the hard part is finding someone worth dating. If you just ask out some stranger she'll likely be like the ones I described in this thread. You know the ones I'm so enraged by just because I try to warn people of them. Or she could be a f**king crazy clinger, BPD, or something else that's troublesome.

If you're going to ask out someone you just met you need to have more certainty besides "she's hot. Pump N Dump." Before you make an ordeal about this, I have asked out women I just met, and I did get their number. But still, KNOWING who the f**k you're dealing with will save a lot of trouble.

You seem oblivious to the fact that I'm trying to help people by making these posts, and the threads that discuss indicators of crazies. "But there's no studies to prove it" yeah, and there never will be because of feminist BS. But there's no proof against what I'm saying, and I've found the s**t I post to be pretty true, because otherwise I wouldn't be posting it.

We need more helpful posts on this site to save men time and trouble with these b**ches. The true men don't want to waste their time with low quality women.

 

[jurry]

You can see the anger, absurd generalizations, and pessimism of the OP quite clearly in his last post. If you guys also subscribe to this kind of sad reality, then I guess im just spinning my wheels with you, which is too bad for the site really.

Im still going to call out the BS when I see it on here, sorry that it bothers you so much you call me names like little schoolboys trying to hurt my feelings. Either deal with it or ban me.

 

[EveryPostHere]

You can tell by the way Jurry ignored what I said completely yet again that they're bothered by my last post. It's too bad for this site people like that have to derail threads with actual insight, and not the typical sosuave BS of "Pump N Dump" and social media.

Someone's a badass for using the 2014 douchebag lingo "deal with it." What's next #TheStuggleIsReal? or "Cool story bro. Tell me again."

I'm done responding to your fickle minded comments. I'm sure you'll respond now to get the last word because that's what you really care about.

 

[Soolaimon]

These are women that you should not commit to.

But the boundary crew tries to put boundaries on these women trying to change them to follow "their terms".

Then they wonder why their relationships and marriages failed but still support boundaries.

crazy!

You find 50's housewives "icky".

You find 50's housewives "icky" too. Cause you're afraid to marry your de facto housewife and make it official cause you're scared to death of a divorce court.

Which makes no sense since you're all for boundaries and claims it filters out sluts and ensures a woman has the same values as you.

So since you filtered your woman and she has the same values as you there would be no need to fear a divorce court.

Why don't you marry her?